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Worst FA signing of '09

View Poll Results: Worst FA Signing of '09
Marian Hossa (12yrs/$62.8 Mil) 44 17.81%
Marian Gaborik (5yrs/$37.5 Mil) 50 20.24%
Jay Bouwmeester (5yrs/$33.6 Mil) 0 0%
Mike Cammaleri (5yrs/ $30 Mil) 9 3.64%
Martin Havlat (6yrs/$30 Mil) 4 1.62%
Brain Gionta (5yrs/ $25 Mil) 73 29.55%
Mattias Ohlund (7yrs/$24.5 Mil) 13 5.26%
Mike Komisarek (5yrs/$22.5 Mil) 8 3.24%
Nik Antropov (4yrs / $16 Mil) 13 5.26%
Nikolai Khabibulin (4yrs/$15 Mil) 1 0.40%
Rob Scuderi (4yrs/$13.6 Mil) 10 4.05%
Jaroslav Spacek (3yrs/ $11.5 Mil) 5 2.02%
Francois Beauchemin (3yrs/$11.4 Mil) 1 0.40%
Matt Walker (4yrs/$6.8 Mil) 7 2.83%
Hal Gill (2yrs/$4.5 Mil) 9 3.64%
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07-15-2009, 04:14 PM
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remember, last time gionta played alongside gomez he scored 48 goals, if he can hit 30-35 this season, that contract could turn out to be a great one
In 2005-06.

In 2006-07, Gomez and Gionta played together for the entire season.

Gomez had 13-47-60 in 70 games and Gionta had 25-20-45 in 62 games.

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07-15-2009, 05:34 PM
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In 2005-06.

In 2006-07, Gomez and Gionta played together for the entire season.

Gomez had 13-47-60 in 70 games and Gionta had 25-20-45 in 62 games.
Exactly what I wanted to say. Gomez is worse with every season and I think Habs will regret his trade and signing Gionta very soon.

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07-15-2009, 07:50 PM
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whoever the rangers signed--no one else though.

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Exactly what I wanted to say. Gomez is worse with every season and I think Habs will regret his trade and signing Gionta very soon.
Gionta has had one great season back in the year after the lockout 3 full seasons ago (05-06) and has since settled back into being an average top 6 player. He has averaged 24G-57pts over the last 3 season, and seen his goal totals steadily decrease over the same time span.

I don't see how an 30year old, undersized player coming off a 20G-60pt season on a team that ranks Top 15 in GF, manages to garner a 5 year contract that pays him 5M annually. That is what I call overpayment.

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07-15-2009, 08:17 PM
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This should be a multi-choice poll.

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whoever the rangers signed--no one else though.
Good to see the "us against the world" act is already on.

Anyway, I think Komisarek's deal could turn out to be a bad one for the Leafs. 4.5 million is just too much for defensive defensemen who make a lot of mistakes. Gionta is also way overpaid now.

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07-15-2009, 08:39 PM
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Voted Gionta who is overpaid big time. It's close between him and Hossa however. Hossa isn't overpaid but his signing could mean that Hawks wont be able to re-sign either Toews or Kane...

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07-15-2009, 09:46 PM
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Compared to other years, this offseasons free agent signings have been pretty tamed. To me the worst free agent signing is the one most likely to bite his team in the ass, and in my opinion that would be the Gaborik signing. I love Gaborik, but 7.5 per season is ridiculous for someone who has trouble putting a 50 game season together, let alone 82.

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07-15-2009, 09:59 PM
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Easily between Gionta and Walker. Went with Gionta because of the $5mil cap hit.

Everyone who voted Hossa doesnt realize how genius the 12 year contract is or doesnt know the structure of said contract.

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In 2005-06.

In 2006-07, Gomez and Gionta played together for the entire season.

Gomez had 13-47-60 in 70 games and Gionta had 25-20-45 in 62 games.
You realize that 25 goals in 62 games works out to be 33 goals over 82 right? The previous poster said between 30-35 goals would make Gionta a solid pickup...

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07-16-2009, 02:07 AM
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You realize that 25 goals in 62 games works out to be 33 goals over 82 right? The previous poster said between 30-35 goals would make Gionta a solid pickup...
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Gionta has had one great season back in the year after the lockout 3 full seasons ago (05-06) and has since settled back into being an average top 6 player. He has averaged 24G-57pts over the last 3 seasons, and seen his goal totals steadily decrease over the same time span.

I don't see how an 30year old, undersized player coming off a 20G-60pt season on a team that ranks Top 15 in GF, manages to garner a 5 year contract that pays him 5M annually. That is what I call overpayment.
30-35G? Yeah..No.

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Compared to other years, this offseasons free agent signings have been pretty tamed. To me the worst free agent signing is the one most likely to bite his team in the ass, and in my opinion that would be the Gaborik signing. I love Gaborik, but 7.5 per season is ridiculous for someone who has trouble putting a 50 game season together, let alone 82.
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Marian Gaborik:
27, career high in 2007/08, 42G-83pts playing 77gp. He played over that amount of GP, twice in his career 01/02 and 02/03. In 8 NHL seasons, 502GP out of a possible 656GP(an average of 63GP a season) and compiled 219G-437pts. A 0.44GPG and 0.87PPG over his career.

It should be noted Gaborik missed 17GP in 05/06 not due to injury but rather due to contractual issues with the Wild.

About Gaborik's last season:
His injuries are practically all groin or hip related. He underwent hip surgery in early January and came back flying after that. Played 11 games after surgery, scored 9 goals, 17points and went on a 7 game point streak to end the season where Minnesota went 7-3-1 with him in the lineup. By the way thats a ridiculous 52G-126pt pace over a full season (post surgery)!
Nice speaking out of your ass buddy

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07-16-2009, 02:10 AM
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hands down its gionta, second is gaborik, i'd put gill 3rd because its gill and he just plain sucks

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07-16-2009, 02:27 AM
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Compared to other years, this offseasons free agent signings have been pretty tamed. To me the worst free agent signing is the one most likely to bite his team in the ass, and in my opinion that would be the Gaborik signing. I love Gaborik, but 7.5 per season is ridiculous for someone who has trouble putting a 50 game season together, let alone 82.
Actually, he played more than 65 games in 6 of his 8 seasons (his other two were 48 and 17). i think his injury proneness is hyped on the boards.

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I chose Havlat

Things went way too well last year..it has to go wrong at some point again

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Gionta. No way you pay that kind of money for 2nd line player.

He could and probably will put up better points this season than last, though.

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when Gaborik gets bit by a mosquito and is out for the rest of the season, Ranger fans are going to really loathe that contract

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Everyone who voted Hossa doesnt realize how genius the 12 year contract is or doesnt know the structure of said contract.
Didn't vote for Hossa. Yeah his contract would be good 9 times out of 10 but it doesnt look so good when you are up against it cap-wise and you have 3 of yours stars (keith, Kane and Toews) due for a big raise following offseason. If they fail to win the cup this season and lose 1 of those 3 next offseason, this Hossa deal will be a disaster...

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Not a hard choice for me....

Who wants Cammalleri for 6 million?

Gionta is also being vastly overpaid...more of a 3.5 million dollar guy, tops.
What 27 year old 30+ goal scorer, ppg player, are you getting for 3.5 a year?

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I voted Hossa, but perhaps it's not the "worst" signing. I view it as being the most "destructive", potentially. I just don't see WHY the 'Hawks would make that move. I am not a huge believer in the best player available mantra at the draft, but it's even worse in free agency. Did they pick Hossa up because he was the best FA available? To get him away from Detroit? I believe the 'Hawks could have lost Havlat and not replaced him at all and still be in very good shape up front (and at right wing). This is the second consecutive summer that Chicago acquired an expensive player they didn't need. Either their own internal player evaluations are off, or they are just in it to make a splash.

I think they needed Khabibulin more than Hossa, but maybe that's just me. Maybe I am not evaluating Corey Crawford well enough. We'll see, I guess.

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Gaborik's is like a boom-or-bust prospect. Could easily be the worst, but not a sure thing. Scuderi on the other hand . . .

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Im surprised so many are saying Gionta, Id go with Cammalleri. Hes good but how he makes more than Havlat is beyond me, when hes not even half the player that Havlat is. Also Gionta is a much more well rounded player than Cams, his contract isnt that bad. Id take him for 5 per than cams at 6 per. Even for the same money, Id take Gionta.

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Didn't vote for Hossa. Yeah his contract would be good 9 times out of 10 but it doesnt look so good when you are up against it cap-wise and you have 3 of yours stars (keith, Kane and Toews) due for a big raise following offseason. If they fail to win the cup this season and lose 1 of those 3 next offseason, this Hossa deal will be a disaster...

If they lose someone it will be Kane. Hossa is better than Kane will ever be, most likely. So Hossa is still more a net gain.

Luckily the Hawks have a lot of tradeable contracts that they would drop before Kane. Byfuglien and Versteeg would be first to go. I still think Campbell can be dealt. Signing a great player at a nice cap hit long term may put you against the cap, but it is a great problem to have.

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Hossa 12 Years?? WTF?

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I totally understand why people don`t like the Gionta contract but for me, it has to be the Hossa contract. The cap hit isn't bad but the length is tough to swallow. The worst part about it is that it will kill the Hawks chances of signing all three of their star players next year in Keith, Toews and Kane.

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