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The Greatest Fighters in UFC History (Newspaper Article)

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07-10-2009, 09:39 AM
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The Greatest Fighters in UFC History (Newspaper Article)

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Fighting/U...49541-sun.html

I know most people probably won't agree with Number 1 but I think it's the right choice.

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where would Fedor Emelianenko rank all time ?

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In MMA history (meaning during an organized promotion era, of course) I'd put either Wanderlei or Fedor at #1.

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Bas needs to be on that list

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Bas needs to be on that list
Problem is, Bas only fought in the UFC twice, and during the dark era. Also doesn't help that one of his wins was a controversial decision either. Now they didn't spell out criteria explicitly, so it's tough to disagree with much of the list. Pat Miletich is a curious selection, but I can't think of very many candidates who clearly would displace him. You could make an argument for Vitor Belfort, Rich Franklin, or Forrest Griffin at #9 or 10 IMO.


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I don't think Royce is the greatest UFC fighter, but as far as influence goes, I don't mind him being number one, Couture has too many losses to be ranked number two, I would take Liddell, GSP, and Hughes before I take Randy.

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I think GSP should be a little bit higher. I've only watched MMA for 4-5 years, so I can't fully comment.

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Problem is, Bas only fought in the UFC twice, and during the dark era. Also doesn't help that one of his wins was a controversial decision either. Now they didn't spell out criteria explicitly, so it's tough to disagree with much of the list. Pat Miletich is a curious selection, but I can't think of very many candidates who clearly would displace him. You could make an argument for Vitor Belfort, Rich Franklin, or Forrest Griffin at #9 or 10 IMO.
That's a fair point man, forgot it was only twice. It's a real shame he came around when he did because he was as dominant during his time as Fedor was....especially after he started learning sub defense. Never lost to a guy without the last name Shamrock.

Not to take this thread over but as an MMA fan I feel cheated in not getting to see Bas vs Rickson. That was the fight I always wanted to see and never understood why it didn't take place.

Getting back to the list, in all actuality it really is a pretty good list, not really in terms of best mma fighters but in terms of importance in the octagon. I hate Tito and Frank but to deny their place inside of the history of the octagon in ridiculous. Both have done quite a bit for the UFC and for Dana to "ban" Tito from recent events really leaves a sour taste in my mouth even though I detest Tito, he deserves to be recognized if nothing else for Couture spanking him "literally" during a match!

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I don't think Royce is the greatest UFC fighter, but as far as influence goes, I don't mind him being number one, Couture has too many losses to be ranked number two, I would take Liddell, GSP, and Hughes before I take Randy.

I think that's what they were going for more influence rather than who they beat and what they've done recently. Couture is a curious selection especially but keep in mind he's a 5 time champion. Can't argue that Chuck, GSP and Hughes have done more but Randy is a living legend right now, everyone loves Randy and he's been the king of the upset and king of the gameplan...I'd be really surprised to see what Randy and Greg Jackson could put together for a fight plan.

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I don't think Royce is the greatest UFC fighter, but as far as influence goes, I don't mind him being number one, Couture has too many losses to be ranked number two, I would take Liddell, GSP, and Hughes before I take Randy.
I think people forget that Royce Gracie fought when there were No Weight Classes, Fewer Rules & Fighters fought Multiple Times in the Same Night.

The UFC of Royce's day was a lot different & tougher than it is now. I preferred the old UFC.

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I think people forget that Royce Gracie fought when there were No Weight Classes, Fewer Rules & Fighters fought Multiple Times in the Same Night.
exactly.

Royce definitely belongs at the top of that list. him coming into the UFC and MMA, changed the sport forever.

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exactly.

Royce definitely belongs at the top of that list. him coming into the UFC and MMA, changed the sport forever.
Royce didn't come into the UFC. His family created the UFC specifically to showcase Brazilian(Gracie) Jiu Jitsu to the masses.

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I know most people probably won't agree with Number 1 but I think it's the right choice.
I'm pretty sure most people who have watched UFC from the beginning, or know the history of UFC, would definitely agree with #1.

Couture at #2 is arguable... Couture may have had the longest and most "storied" career... But Liddell was more dominant and more entertaining. I would maybe even put Hughes ahead of him.

The rest is fine.

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Speaking of Royce, if there would have been judges at UFC 5, who do you think would have won between Shamrock and Gracie?

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Royce didn't come into the UFC. His family created the UFC specifically to showcase Brazilian(Gracie) Jiu Jitsu to the masses.
Thanks.

Was just about to post that.

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Thanks.

Was just about to post that.
That's not entirely accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimat...onship#Origins

Sounds more like Art Davie was the driving force behind the Original UFC.

Mind you it is from Wikipedia so it might not be completely accurate.

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That's not entirely accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimat...onship#Origins

Sounds more like Art Davie was the driving force behind the Original UFC.

Mind you it is from Wikipedia so it might not be completely accurate.
that is correct.

sure the Gracie's had input but they did not 'create' the Original UFC. Art Davie did, along with a lot of investors.

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