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07-21-2009, 10:15 PM
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proposal: Kessel to vancouver.

Lets throw a 5million dollar offer sheet for him!
It will only cost us a 1st and a 3rd.


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Put proposal in the title.

This work well if we could move Demitra for a defenceman.


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07-21-2009, 10:17 PM
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Put proposal in the title.

This work well if we could move Demitra for a defenceman.
I almost gave you a heart attack eh?

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07-21-2009, 10:28 PM
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I lke Kessel and all, but I am just not so sure he is worth 5M a year, or the compensatory picks we would be giving up.

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If a 34 year old, injury prone Demitra is worth $4 million then I think a 21 year old 36 goal scorer is worth $5 million, a 1st round and a 3rd round easily. I'd do it in a second, of course Demitra would have to be discarded somehow.

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07-21-2009, 10:34 PM
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I'd probably do it if we could unload Demitra for a defencemen, but that makes too much sense. We would not be getting good return on Demitra either, so it makes the situation far less likely.

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I'd probably do it if we could unload Demitra for a defencemen, but that makes too much sense. We would not be getting good return on Demitra either, so it makes the situation far less likely.
Or we could sign one of Morris, Seidenberg, or Zubov and trade Demitra for a 2nd. That would be an awesome, but unlikely series of events.

Also $4.5M is the max salary for giving up a 1st and 3rd round pick. The next level, up to $6M, requires a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd which we couldn't do as we don't have our 2nd round pick.


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Demitra to NYR for a 2nd or a 3rd rounder.

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If a 34 year old, injury prone Demitra is worth $4 million then I think a 21 year old 36 goal scorer is worth $5 million, a 1st round and a 3rd round easily. I'd do it in a second, of course Demitra would have to be discarded somehow.
I understand your point and all....I just find it odd that the Bruins are spending so much time deciding what they want to do with Kessel.

If it was a simple as well he scored 36 goals, so lets break the bank to keep him or aquire him, then something would have been worked out by now either way.

There has got to be some kind of issues with Kessel that we are not hearing about, for the Bruins to be contemplating getting rid of the guy.

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Gillis fought a year long running battle to get the Sedins in at $6M - players who've dedicated their entire careers to the franchise - and we're supposed to throw nearly the same dollars at a kid who has done nothing for the franchise?

I can't imagine that would go over well in the locker room...

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07-21-2009, 11:25 PM
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5 million dollars and the Boston match and send a thank you letter for negotiating the contract for them.

This kid is going to be a great player, Boston will find some way to shred other contracts instead of giving up players like him.

If its possible i would trade Kessel involving the Sedins. Obviously not both Sedins for just Kessel.

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5 million dollars and the Boston match and send a thank you letter for negotiating the contract for them.

This kid is going to be a great player, Boston will find some way to shred other contracts instead of giving up players like him.

If its possible i would trade Kessel involving the Sedins. Obviously not both Sedins for just Kessel.
Throw Lucic in and done!!

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If a 34 year old, injury prone Demitra is worth $4 million then I think a 21 year old 36 goal scorer is worth $5 million, a 1st round and a 3rd round easily. I'd do it in a second, of course Demitra would have to be discarded somehow.

In the world of free agency it really doesn't work that way.

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07-22-2009, 12:42 AM
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I lke Kessel and all, but I am just not so sure he is worth 5M a year, or the compensatory picks we would be giving up.
Kessel at that contract is better than Dany Heatley at his, not to mention the fact that Kessel has a ton of room to grow as a player and Heatley is, essentially, a floating goal scorer. Kessel floats kinda too but he's been good lately. I'm surprised you wouldn't do this.

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Kessel at that contract is better than Dany Heatley at his, not to mention the fact that Kessel has a ton of room to grow as a player and Heatley is, essentially, a floating goal scorer. Kessel floats kinda too but he's been good lately. I'm surprised you wouldn't do this.
Man oh man Cao, I am sure taking heat from you over that Heatley thread? Thats ok though I guess I walked into it....But it is quite some time for you to be firing with the same ammunition still isnt it?

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Chiarelli would match that in a second. He'd go over the cap (which is allowable for a period) and figure it out later.

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Man oh man Cao, I am sure taking heat from you over that Heatley thread? Thats ok though I guess I walked into it....But it is quite some time for you to be firing with the same ammunition still isnt it?
I'm just using your love of Heatley to make a point. Kessel brings the same things that Heatley does if not more as Kessel is faster, which is essential in today's NHL. If you can get him for a first round pick and a third round pick at around 5 million, then that's much better than getting Heatley at 7.5 million while also probably giving up more assets. A pure goal scorer is second on our list of priorities, but if you can get one for picks and a 5 million dollar contract, then take that opportunity.

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Chiarelli would match that in a second. He'd go over the cap (which is allowable for a period) and figure it out later.
Why hasn't he re-signed him yet then?

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Why hasn't he re-signed him yet then?
i imagine kessel wants a long term deal at 5-6mil

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i imagine kessel wants a long term deal at 5-6mil
IMO thats a good deal for the Bruins, maybe not $6 million, but long term at $5 is a good deal.

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IMO thats a good deal for the Bruins, maybe not $6 million, but long term at $5 is a good deal.
the problem is that they have like 2 mil cap space left
to keep kessel they have to drop someone else

maybe poaching kessel for 5 mil would make them think very hard about matching

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Bah, the sheer amount of misinformation in this thread is mind-bottling. Kessel has said several times that he wants below $5m. If Boston offered anything close to $5m this would be done now. It's not done because they're offering something around what Krejci got.

If we offered $5m (which we can't, we don't have our second pick), Boston lets us take Kessel and is very happy with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd pick they get out of it.

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I lke Kessel and all, but I am just not so sure he is worth 5M a year, or the compensatory picks we would be giving up.
Just my speculation but I think we've reached the end of a set of drafts that have been beyond any other. The amount of young talent in the league is crazy but I think it will slow down for a while.


It's more of a WILD GUESS than anything.

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The Canucks could offer Kessel a 4 year 16 million dollar contract, and still get him under the cap. They'd just have to move Hansen to make roster room for him.

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The Canucks could offer Kessel a 4 year 16 million dollar contract, and still get him under the cap. They'd just have to move Hansen to make roster room for him.
Boston matches that within a minute of Kessel accepting it.

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