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03-31-2004, 08:38 PM
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So who else besides Kovalev are we gona bash tonight, jeez.

So we have lost three, wow the world must be ending.
we have lost 4 in row

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Don't really know what's happened to them. They wont the game against New Jersey weekend before last and then didnt come to play the next two. They played well against the bruins, and now lose 5-1 to the NYI.

Whats with the relaxed attitude the team is having? They don't seem to be in the games.. no intensity. The only game they've showed intensity in the last 5 was against the bruins.. and then they relaxed too much in the third. I'm started to get pissed off now.
The impression i have is that they have the "We are now assured to be in the playoffs so let's take the rest of the season OFF to not risk any injury" mentality.

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we have lost 4 in row
Oh ya, LOL!


Still no big deal.

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Too bad the Habs have clinched a playoff spot. Having to worry about the Sabres might have made them at least pretend they were still alive.

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It's hard enough for a new player to adapt to a new team when traded at the deadline and I can't understand for the life of me why Julien keeps changing Kovalev's linemates. So what if he hasn't been playing well, players are allowed to have bad streaks. The least he can do is put him on a steady line so he can at least get used to his linemates. Kovalev is not exactly lighting it up, but he's at least doing better then Dagenais. Why isn't Dagenais getting shuffled to the 3rd and 4th line? Does Julien have some sort of secret plot that is beyond our understanding? I smell another Czerkawsky forming. He can't treat these types of players like he would treat a Begin or a Bulis. It's not going to motivate him. Doesn't work that way.

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03-31-2004, 09:22 PM
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Well, thanks alot Habs, you really came through for us tonight...


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Kovalev had less points than Czerkawski when the deal was done, playing with a lot more talent. He had the same points as Rucinsky who was being used as a defensive winger in N.Y. What did anyone expect?

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Kovalev will prove you all wrong in the playoffs....then you'll be praising how great he is.



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Kovalev will prove you all wrong in the playoffs....then you'll be praising how great he is.
That's EXACTLY what I'm thinking.

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Kovalev will prove you all wrong in the playoffs....then you'll be praising how great he is.



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I'm sure he will step up the intensity a few notches. Alex has been around long enough to know that there isn't much percentage in killing yourself once the team has a playoff spot locked up.

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03-31-2004, 09:33 PM
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Relax guys, Habs team have an epidemia of flu/cold this week. Zed, Sax, Kovy, Ribs, even Julien,they all have it! They will be ok next week when PO time will start. It's a close contact sport, heh? So they're gonna give the flu to the Flyers. They already give the flu to the bRuins, with incubation time the bRuins will be sick next week and Habs back in top shape.

Don't worry, be happy.

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Relax guys, Habs team have an epidemia of flu/cold this week. Zed, Sax, Kovy, Ribs, even Julien,they all have it! They will be ok next week when PO time will start. It's a close contact sport, heh? So they're gonna give the flu to the Flyers. They already give the flu to the bRuins, with incubation time the bRuins will be sick next week and Habs back in top shape.

Don't worry, be happy.

Nice one

Btw, since everyone is in the mood for speculation (read kovalev future performance)

Maybe this huge humiliation for the Habs will make them mad and they will raise their play a notch to make sure that never happen again

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Nice one

Btw, since everyone is in the mood for speculation (read kovalev future performance)

Maybe this huge humiliation for the Habs will make them mad and they will raise their play a notch to make sure that never happen again
This slump comes in the right time. The peak will be in PO time. Well, we must have trust in the Sacred Pretzel.

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Well, thanks alot Habs, you really came through for us tonight...

I almost feel sorry for you guys. It must be hard to see a club play with such a lack of effort against an other team fighting with you for a playoff spot. And I have to say, I would have prefered to see Buffalo in the playoffs instead of the Isles. They're a more pleasant team to watch.

But I think Habs have now problems of their own. The more pessimistic fans will say we'll get swept, and the most optimistic will say it's no big deal, but I stand in the middle. Like Juneau said today, it's a dangerous game the Habs are playing right now. You can't expect to magically turn the switch back on when the playoffs begin. Scarry.

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J'énonce une théorie plausible à propos du Bum Kovalev

Checker ben Sather a dit a Kovalev tu t'en va en Montreal en retour de Balej. Pi fou le plus de marde possible la bas on va te resigner la saison suivante. Checker Chow Il jouait comm un plouc avec les canadiens et avec les isles cette année yé pas trop mauvais. P-e que Sather veut imiter Crazy Mike. pas fou comme tactique lol

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03-31-2004, 10:10 PM
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Kovalev will prove you all wrong in the playoffs....then you'll be praising how great he is.

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Actually, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. Faces on and off the bandwagon are constantly changing. Doesn't take long.

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I wanted him to steal one for you guys tonight, not get shelled.

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Well, thanks alot Habs, you really came through for us tonight...

Instead of blaming the Habs how about you look at your record against the Isles this year.....0-4 chew on that for a while.

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J'énonce une théorie plausible à propos du Bum Kovalev

Checker ben Sather a dit a Kovalev tu t'en va en Montreal en retour de Balej. Pi fou le plus de marde possible la bas on va te resigner la saison suivante. Checker Chow Il jouait comm un plouc avec les canadiens et avec les isles cette année yé pas trop mauvais. P-e que Sather veut imiter Crazy Mike. pas fou comme tactique lol

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Les seules qui foutent la marde à Montréal c'est les journaleux. Est-ce que Sather les a contacté eux aussi ?

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Guys, what's this? Swept in the playoffs? Horrible? Come on, the playoffs is a brand new day. We suck now but it's because the satisfaction has crept in and the team has gotten lazy and strayed away from what made them pick up pts. in 26 of 30 games or something like that. We can regroup in time for the playoffs. Right now, the Habs are battling healing injuries, the flu, tired guys and an it's-okay-we're-in-the-playoffs attitude. Trust me, it'll fly out the window come playoff time. The team is not so gutless that it'll be happy just to be there. We'll give, presumably the Bruins, a good fight. And CJ will realize due to this lull that Juneau, Dackell and Dagenais are poison; their lack of physicality, skill and effort are hurting their linemates and it's hopefully made CJ realize to go back to what worked in the good stretch. Kovalev should be on the 1st line too and put Bulis with Ribs and Ryder.

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Guys, what's this? Swept in the playoffs? Horrible? Come on, the playoffs is a brand new day. We suck now but it's because the satisfaction has crept in and the team has gotten lazy and strayed away from what made them pick up pts. in 26 of 30 games or something like that. We can regroup in time for the playoffs. Right now, the Habs are battling healing injuries, the flu, tired guys and an it's-okay-we're-in-the-playoffs attitude. Trust me, it'll fly out the window come playoff time. The team is not so gutless that it'll be happy just to be there. We'll give, presumably the Bruins, a good fight. And CJ will realize due to this lull that Juneau, Dackell and Dagenais are poison; their lack of physicality, skill and effort are hurting their linemates and it's hopefully made CJ realize to go back to what worked in the good stretch. Kovalev should be on the 1st line too and put Bulis with Ribs and Ryder.
I'm not worried in the least about the last few games. Sure it would have been nice to win them but whatever. This team is getting hit hard by the flu bug right now and I am confident that if healthy this team can do some damage in the playoffs.

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Hold yer horses chicpea, I had to take that game in doses!

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It’s on this kind of night that every single player goes home, no matter if he played well or not, and hides his head in his hands just before bed, embarrassed and ashamed at the collective effort displayed. Anyone who’s played competitive sports understands that when you get slapped *this* badly and it’s entirely the fault of your team and not just the other team’s dominance, the night after is just about the worst time imaginable as you consider what you really should have done as a group.

Were there more than three or four players who put forth a solid effort on this evening? Oh, let’s not play with words here, were there many at all who put forth *any* effort? How can we possibly be looking to the playoffs when we get smacked all over the ice by a team below us in the standings? Shouldn’t we be at least competitive? Was there a smidgen of playoff hockey in our display? And finally, do you get the growing unpleasant feeling in the pit of your stomach that there are too many questions that have to be answered after a game like that?

And no falling on the excuses of sickness. Every team in this league has to get by on nights when players are struggling or out with injury. Before we take out the excuse card, let’s first take a look at how far the LA Kings have come this year despite losing all their best players. They may not have made the playoffs, but they sure as heck have put in an admirable showing.

~~

Notes:

Theo: If, in the first five minutes, he’d managed to make those saves that we’re used to seeing, perhaps this doesn’t get out of hand. Perhaps the team gathers itself. Now, I’m not laying blame, because in reality he was left out to dry, but let’s be honest here and say that we expect him to make those saves on most nights. The second goal, while still an in-close shot, went between the wickets. And let’s just not talk about that fifth goal – the one that Pedneault said was so perfect Theo had no chance. It went between his arm and his body, ergo saveable. No, the game is not on his shoulders at all, but he certainly didn’t have a banner night. B-

Garon: One solid period. No complaints and a couple of nice saves in traffic. B+

Dykhuis: And here, one of the few bright spots – and what does it say when we can look at our AHL call-up and call him a bright spot. He was hardly flawless, but in his 17-plus minutes of ice time, he was darn good, way above what we should realistically expect from a #7/8 guy. B+

Rivet: Awful, simply awful. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen him make so many poor decisions, give so many pucks away, and most of all lose that many one-on-one battles. He was sick, not stupid, yet he played more like the latter at times. D

Brisebois: Putrid. His worst game all year by a country mile. Breeze-By was back in full form with the giveaways and the poor plays and poor play selection. Anyone take the time to count the number of passes that frittered off the heel of his stick? He had a poor night the previous night, he says. Guess what, everyone has ‘em. D-

Markov: Another bright point when you consider that he was paired with Breezy most of the night and while the latter earned himself a fat -3, Markov was even. He wasn’t great, and certainly not a stalwart as he can be, but he was solid enough and did most things right. B

Souray: Wrist still hurting, is it? A couple of head-scratching mental errors combined with the falling-off-the-heel-of-the-stick syndrome in passing made this one a real struggle. In his case, thank the Forum Gods that he’s got another two games to fine something that passes for being in form. C-

Komisarek: He finished as a plus. Now, I could just leave it there and let that stat speak for itself, but let’s look a little more. He played a consistent shift, over 16 minutes of ice time; he made laser sharp passes – the only defender who was able to do that; he’s starting to get more proactive with his plays and looked confident out there for almost every moment. In other words, he looked like an NHL defender and one who deserves playoff ice time. B+

Sundstrom: An adequate game, though he played barely over eleven minutes. He even used the body a little on this night and was one of about five guys that won battles along the boards. B

Ward: On a night when most of the rest of his teammates went into hibernation, Wardo brought out his best and worked his rear off all night. He was rewarded with a richly earned goal and his solid two-way play was a standard that only one other forward met. A-

Dowd: Thank you. Thank you for showing up and making the rest of the team look really bad as you worked every shift. He’s not a big hitter, but positionally he’s fabulous and on this night he read poor DiPietro like some used paperback novel written by a third-rate hack. Can someone please tell Bob Gainey to find a few more like the ones he’s picked up? Langdon, Begin and Dowd are magic. (We’ll ignore the *other* for now.) A

Kovalev: Speak of the Devil. It’s time to stop playing the Ranger game, at the very least. If I have to see another lazy penalty where he grabs or hooks someone from behind because he doesn’t want to take an extra stride, I might make my way to Montreal to slap him myself. I understand he’s struggling for confidence right now, but the way to get out of slumps is to WORK, not cheat. D

Juneau: I have never in my life seen that guy lose it. Ever. Suspension on the way for the high stick to the head, that much is sure. And the thing that bugs me the most about it is that it was a completely legal check that Webb threw. Juneau just lost it. Frustration I know, but wow. As for the rest of the game, it actually wasn’t horrible and some of his former prowess for attack showed here and there. A couple of times that line made some noise. C+

Bulis: He started off fairly well but seemed to drizzle towards the end. Honestly, I didn’t notice him much this game, and that’s not a great thing since someone with speed should be making their presence felt. C-

Dagenais: And Montreal thanks you for that one shift where you had all three of your shots. Other than that, you may have well have been picking tulips for some maiden faraway south. D-

Ribeiro: Can someone please check the mail? Apparently Ribs didn’t get the memo that the season lasts 82 games. Perhaps he’s thinking of how good he’d look on the beaches of Portugal, because he sure isn’t worrying about how good he looks on the ice. I believe he had about two good passes all night and managed to create a couple of small plays that fizzled as well as a minor hissy fit when someone went offside. D+

Ryder: He started well, at least in terms of getting his shot off, though tonight he missed the net continually. At least, in his case, he still worked from beginning to end, and that’s something precious few could say after this one. C+

Perreault: If there are two less defensively aware wingers than Perreault and Zednik, I’d sure like to see them. Yanic the Great was everything his name says and more…at least when it comes to modelling that mullet. He managed to attain the lofty -2 in barely over eleven minutes, which is no small feat for a mullet that size. From hot streak back to floundering fish in just over a week, and all without giving any effort. He should write books. F

Zednik: There was a shift, in the third, when he hustled like there was no tomorrow. I’m sure that occurred immediately after his coach tore him a new orifice. Once, other than that, he tried to break through the defence with something approximating offence, but that was it on this night. Other than that, he was abysmal defensively, atrocious offensively and glued to the bench for most of the third. Perhaps against Philly he should watch from the press box; anything to light a fire under him. D-

Koivu: There’s plenty of frustration evident in his game as well and he didn’t have a good night at all. There were a couple of shifts where he worked his butt off and made something happen, but again, it was few and far between and when you’re ostensibly the offensive catalyst, your job is to do something offensively. I loved when he dogged through two defenders and still managed to get the puck out in front of the goal, but that has to happen regularly. C-

Julien: You DO know you can call a time-out, don’t you? Perhaps after the second goal you should have halted things, given them a moment to focus and to get back to playing hockey rather than running in circles like a bunch of mismatched dancers on ice.

PP/PK: Neither was great, though at least the PK was somewhat decent at times. The PP in particular is going to need a boost if they’re to get anywhere in the playoffs. C-

Team: Allow me to guffaw. What team. F

~~

We have two games left, one against the Flyers and the other against the Sabres and we’d better find something to get things righted or we’re going to be golfing pretty quickly. At this moment there are so many problems this team has that it’s almost scary. Even if we lose both of the next two games, it’s absolutely critical that we play solid hockey. If the team can make it to The Show having at least played a string of solid minutes, the playoff fever should help lift them to a respectable level, but if we go into those playoffs playing like this…

And so we have Philly in Montreal tomorrow. I don’t know what magic Julien and Gainey might have, but if they can find some, they’d better use it. The Flyers are big, strong, playing fairly well, and getting a shot in the arm as Primeau returns. The most we can say about the Canadiens is that they still have a pulse.

And I can’t believe I watched that disaster from beginning to end; I guess I’m a sucker for punishment.

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I didn't see much of the game, but what I did see wasn't very encouraging.

This is a team that obviously still has some glaring weaknesses, but, wasn't it '93 when the Habs finished the season playing horrible hockey and then magically found the way to turn on the switch & get it done?

Not suggesting that's the ideal way to enter the POs, but, we can always hope.

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