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07-28-2009, 03:45 PM
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Rumored 3-way Ott-Sj-Mtl

I'd like to try and make a proposal on the rumored 3-way deal.

To MTL:

Marleau

To SJ:

Heatley, Plekanec, Halak, Schubert, Donovan, Zubov

To OTT:

Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn, MTL's mid-tier forward prospect

Breakdown:

MTL gives up: Plekanec, Halak, mid tier forward prospect (3.525 mill)
MTL gets: Marleau (6.3 mill)

SJ gives up: Marleau, Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn (13.733 mill)
SJ gets: Heatley, Plekanec, Halak, Schubert, Zubov, Donovan (12.483 mill)

OTT gives up: Heatley, Schubert, Zubov, Donovan (8.958 mill)
OTT gets: Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn, MTL's mid-tier forward prospect (7.433 mill)

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07-28-2009, 03:51 PM
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11 player trades just don't happen.

What orifice did this "rumor" come from?

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For SJ: Creates a sizable hole on defence, San Jose has no interest in Pleks, does not want Heatley. Not sold on Halak either, and Greiss has already been tabbed the back up for this season. I see the deal taking spread out talent on forward and D and shifting it to the top line/pairing. San Jose has been a one line team in the past and it did not work then, no reason to believe it will this time.

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I'm probably the only habs fan who doesn't want Marleau. Why ? Because after this deal Montréal then has to sell other parts off to get under the cap. They wouldn't be much over, but they still have D'ags and Stewart to sign. After losing a 1st and a 2nd for 1 year of Tanguay and Trunev, I think Montréal should stop trading away good things for 1 year of a player. Marleau will more than likely be gone, as if Montréal did sign him, they'd **** themselves over with the cap.

So, we'd lose Halak, a mid-tier prospect for one year of Marleau. Pleks is more than likely a 1 year thing too.

No interest in Marleau whatsoever.

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These GD MTL/SJS three-way need to STOP!!!!

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I'm probably the only habs fan who doesn't want Marleau. Why ? Because after this deal Montréal then has to sell other parts off to get under the cap. They wouldn't be much over, but they still have D'ags and Stewart to sign. After losing a 1st and a 2nd for 1 year of Tanguay and Trunev, I think Montréal should stop trading away good things for 1 year of a player. Marleau will more than likely be gone, as if Montréal did sign him, they'd **** themselves over with the cap.

So, we'd lose Halak, a mid-tier prospect for one year of Marleau. Pleks is more than likely a 1 year thing too.

No interest in Marleau whatsoever.
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Too big to happen. There has been a rumored deal going around that went like this:

MTL: Marleau

OTT: Michalek, Plekanec

SJ: Heatley

In this case, San Jose is just not getting enough value, but those are the rumored "centerpieces" of the deal. I would think that San Jose would want some picks and prospects coming from Montreal for giving up Marleau. It was rumored by SensChirp, some of it by Eklund, OttawaSun as well, but many other blogs have also mentioned that the Sharks have constantly been talking to Ottawa about Heatley and would like to move Marleau to open up some cap space.


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I'd like to try and make a proposal on the rumored 3-way deal.

To MTL:

Marleau

To SJ:

Heatley, Plekanec, Halak, Schubert, Donovan, Zubov

To OTT:

Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn, MTL's mid-tier forward prospect

Breakdown:

MTL gives up: Plekanec, Halak, mid tier forward prospect (3.525 mill)
MTL gets: Marleau (6.3 mill)

SJ gives up: Marleau, Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn (13.733 mill)
SJ gets: Heatley, Plekanec, Halak, Schubert, Zubov, Donovan (12.483 mill)

OTT gives up: Heatley, Schubert, Zubov, Donovan (8.958 mill)
OTT gets: Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn, MTL's mid-tier forward prospect (7.433 mill)

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Sounds totally reasonable. I can totally see it happening. HAHA!

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Habs give a lot for an upcoming UFA and also it won't work cap wise...

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I'm probably the only habs fan who doesn't want Marleau.
No, you're not the only one. He's a good player and all, but he comes with a hefty price tag for only one year.

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[QUOTE=TheHMan;20586392]Too big to happen. There has been a rumored deal going around that went like this:

MTL: Marleau

OTT: Michalek, Plekanec

SJ: Heatley

Montreal in no fckn way in getting Marleau for Plekanec

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Too big to happen. There has been a rumored deal going around that went like this:

MTL: Marleau

OTT: Michalek, Plekanec

SJ: Heatley

Montreal in no fckn way in getting Marleau for Plekanec
Which is probably why he called them "centerpieces"

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07-28-2009, 04:13 PM
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Wow just a horrible proposal. Marleau wont be traded, I dont think he would waive his NTC.

Mtl
Michalek
Greiss

Ott
Cheechoo
Ehrhoff
Metropolit/Gorges

SJ
Heatley
Subban/Weber
Halak
Lattendresse

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No, you're not the only one. He's a good player and all, but he comes with a hefty price tag for only one year.
Phew, it seems like one gigantic orgy about this guy on the habs board.

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Wow just a horrible proposal. Marleau wont be traded, I dont think he would waive his NTC.

Mtl
Michalek
Greiss

Ott
Cheechoo
Ehrhoff
Metropolit/Gorges

SJ
Heatley
Subban/Weber
Halak
Lattendresse
I'd rather have Halak than Greiss. Gorges is far more valuable than Metro. I'd rather have Subban/Weber, Gorges and Latendresse than Michalek, but that's me.

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07-28-2009, 04:20 PM
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Habs can't afford Marleau, its not going to happen. Unless someone is willing to take Hamrlik's contract, there's no way in hell the Habs can get Marleau. And the Habs aren't giving up a cheap, young second line center + a promising goalie for a guy that can give us 1 year and has been pretty inconsistent. If Marleau was a wrecking ball type player then I can see why this rumor exists but otherwise, its not going to happen, Habs can't afford his contract.

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Never gonna happen in the post lockout era. The days of exciting blockbusters are unfortunately over.

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Never gonna happen in the post lockout era. The days of exciting blockbusters are unfortunately over.
Lol, what about all the huge trades that have happened post lockout? They don't meet your criteria for blockbuster trades?

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07-28-2009, 04:54 PM
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I'd like to try and make a proposal on the rumored 3-way deal.

To MTL:

Marleau

To SJ:

Heatley, Plekanec, Halak, Schubert, Donovan, Zubov

To OTT:

Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn, MTL's mid-tier forward prospect

Breakdown:

MTL gives up: Plekanec, Halak, mid tier forward prospect (3.525 mill)
MTL gets: Marleau (6.3 mill)

SJ gives up: Marleau, Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn (13.733 mill)
SJ gets: Heatley, Plekanec, Halak, Schubert, Zubov, Donovan (12.483 mill)

OTT gives up: Heatley, Schubert, Zubov, Donovan (8.958 mill)
OTT gets: Michalek, Ehrhoff, McGinn, MTL's mid-tier forward prospect (7.433 mill)

What do you think? Give suggestions on what to edit.
Not a chance in hell from San Jose. Heatley is an improvement on Marleau offensive, but how much of one. Is the extra ten goals and ten points worth the massive downgrade defensively, and in terms of speed- a key part of McClellan's system. And that doesn't even get into the long term cap implications of Heatley vs. Marleau.

Meanwhile the sharks downgrade from Michalek to Plekanec. Yet another major step back defensively, and a wash at best offensively. Not to mention the fact that the Sharks are adding their 3rd top 6 centermen. However Heatley, Seto, and Clowe gives each of those scoring 1 scoring winger.

Than we add in McGinn for Zubov, yet another downgrade.

Finally San Jose gives up their underpaid #2/3 d-man for Halak and two 4th liners.Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't mind grabbing Donovan for our 4th line RW, but for something like a 5th.

So San Joses makes a slight improvement to their 1st line and a solid improvement to their PP, and a decent improvement in goal but downgrades their second and third lines, defense and makes no improvements on their cap situation. Meanwhile, Montreal géts a 1st line center for Plekanec, Halak, and a midtier prospwct.


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I'm probably the only habs fan who doesn't want Marleau. Why ? Because after this deal Montréal then has to sell other parts off to get under the cap. They wouldn't be much over, but they still have D'ags and Stewart to sign. After losing a 1st and a 2nd for 1 year of Tanguay and Trunev, I think Montréal should stop trading away good things for 1 year of a player. Marleau will more than likely be gone, as if Montréal did sign him, they'd **** themselves over with the cap.

So, we'd lose Halak, a mid-tier prospect for one year of Marleau. Pleks is more than likely a 1 year thing too.

No interest in Marleau whatsoever.
Another Habs fan here that wouldn't touch Marleau with a ten foot pole.Not near worth the money he's getting paid and we would have to tear apart the team we just put together just to add him for ONE year. The Sharks are stuck with him till that contract ends.

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It would look like this...

To MTL:

Marleau

To SJ:
Halak
Heatley
2nd'10 MTL

To OTT
Plekanec
Michalek
Chechoo


Should be as simple as that

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Another Habs fan here that wouldn't touch Marleau with a ten foot pole.Not near worth the money he's getting paid and we would have to tear apart the team we just put together just to add him for ONE year. The Sharks are stuck with him till that contract ends.
San Jose (by and large) is happy to be 'stuck' with Patrick Marleau. If some of the lunatic fringe from the fanbase get what they want, San Jose will be where the Islanders are in short order.

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It would look like this...

To MTL:

Marleau

To SJ:
Halak
Heatley

To OTT
Plekanec
Michalek
2nd'10 from MTL

Should be as simple as that
This becomes an argument over Michalek or Cheechoo in the top 6. I think San Jose is stronger with the current top 6 than adding Heatley and putting Cheechoo back up there. Jaro Halak, while young, hasn't distinguished himself enough to be traded for and groomed for the starting job. No thanks.

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Another Habs fan here that wouldn't touch Marleau with a ten foot pole.Not near worth the money he's getting paid and we would have to tear apart the team we just put together just to add him for ONE year. The Sharks are stuck with him till that contract ends.
I really, honestly believe that you haven't seen a Sharks game where they haven't played the Canadiens. I also believe that Patrick Marleau's 3rd cousin or something beat the **** out of you and took your lunch money in elementary school. There's no other way to explain your irrational hatred of Marleau.

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Another Habs fan here that wouldn't touch Marleau with a ten foot pole.Not near worth the money he's getting paid and we would have to tear apart the team we just put together just to add him for ONE year. The Sharks are stuck with him till that contract ends.
6.3 mil for 38 goals. Yeah, I'm cool with that. The foundation of the deal seems to be Marleau to Montreal, Heatley to San Jose, and Plekanec/Michalek to Ottawa.

If Montreal has Plekanec for Marleau in any capacity on the table, they take it and run. That kind of value would be highly unrealistic for Plekanec and re-signing Marleau shouldn't be a problem if you convince him to waive his NTC to go there.

I wholeheartedly agree this is not going to happen because the cap is a concern for all three teams at this stage. Prior to the free agency period I could see something like this going down but not now.

I looked through each team's needs and space available and there's really nothing there to make it feasible. One of the three teams would have to take on salary and it would have to be Montreal but all the turnaround they did leaves very few players realistically available to move to even out the salary. Plekanec just re-signed which is another reason why it won't work but he's in the frame of it...I think Laraque being a part of it makes sense and to an extent maybe Latendresse but it gets complicated and messy.

It's just not going to work.

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It would look like this...

To MTL:

Marleau

To SJ:
Halak
Heatley
2nd'10 MTL

To OTT
Plekanec
Michalek
Chechoo


Should be as simple as that
So the Habs get Marleau for Halak, Plekanec, and a 2nd. Good value for them. The Sens get Plekanec, Michalek, and Cheechoo for Heatley. Good value for them. The Sharks get Heatley, Halak, and a 2nd for Marleau, Michalek, and Cheechoo. The Sharks get bent over.


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