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07-29-2009, 04:27 PM
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Pierre Dagenais
Marc-Antoine Pouliot
Stefan Legein

Just to name a few.
Oh please.Man could not skate.

Legein is still very young.He's only 20 years old

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Brad Isbister : At some point i thought this guy would become a premium power forward in the league.

It sure didn't turn out that way.

Joe Juneau : After his 102 pts season i thought that he was the **** and a future superstar. Turns out that it was a fluke and he became mostly a defensive specialist. To be faie he had a few good seasons after that but he still never became the player i expected him to be.

Pat Falloon : I bought the hype about this guy and i shouldn't have to. M y father kept saying that he was the next Steve Yzerman and i believed him.

Turns out that he was a bust

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07-29-2009, 04:46 PM
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A couple guys that come to mind:

Evegeny Davydov
Marcel Hossa
Eric Chouinard
Lonny Bohonas...(kinda came outta knowhere than just dissapeard again)

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07-29-2009, 04:53 PM
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I really wish you'd cut out your holier than thou attitude Ferris..

I thought Hossa had the POTENTIAL to be as good as his brother. I never said I thought he'd be better.
Yeah, you're right. You said "I thought he'd be as good as his brother." Wow, big difference, sorry for putting words in your mouth.

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07-29-2009, 04:56 PM
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Players I had high hope but failed miserably:

Pavel Brendl
Alexander Svitov
Anthony Stewart
Rob Schremp
Lauri Tukonen
Jamie Lundmark
Hannu Toivonen

Players I had high expectation but are not what I expected but still good:

Tuomo Ruutu
Kari Lehtonen
Joni Pitkanen
Alexander Frolov
Andrei Kostitsyn
Nikolai Zherdev

What if players (players I had high expectation but some unexpected event prevented them to achieve it):

Dan Blackburn
Alexander Perezhogin
Alexander Radulov


Players I had high expectations but they are still young enough to achieve it.

Gilbert Brule
Jack Johnson
Guillaume Latendresse
Sergei Kostitsyn

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07-29-2009, 04:56 PM
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How on earth did anybody, let alone multiple people, think Marcel Hossa was going to be a star player?!? That's baffling. Someone said they thought he'd be better then Marian! That's hilarious!

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Dunno drafted in the 1st round, superstar brother decent size and skill set. Try to wrap your mind around that. I don't think anyone was expecting 100pt seasons from him but after his 6 goals in 5 games I think most of us thought we had a solid first liner.

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07-29-2009, 05:15 PM
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Jamie Lundmark is a great mention. I think I drafted him #4 overall in my FHL.

Ramzi Abid is another who I was at least rooting for, though I don't know if I ever had much of an observational basis to think he might make it.

The whole Yanic Perreault vs. Eric Lindros thing and Yanic's subsequent exploits in the minors was a fun issue to track at the time, either despite or because of his Leafness.

Remember when Sebastien Bordeleau (I think it was) got off to that great start one year? One guy I really liked in my days in Hull was Jonathan Delisle. I doubt I was among Pavel Rosa's bigger boosters, but I'm at least a little bit surprised that he fizzled so thoroughly.

I never liked Brendl at all. I drafted Brad Moran and Matt Kinch at some point though from Calgary. Size/speed obstacles to making it, but I really thought they could. Obviously Beech was pretty highly touted too. Others liked Krestanovich more than me. If you told me Jerred Smithson was going to be the most prominent NHLer off that team, I don't know what I would have thought.

Thinking back to that same Mem Cup era, Jonathan Girard was really the guy I liked on his D. Beauchemin was decent, but Girard impressed me tons. And then Papineau on the Bulls. Jeff Heerema in the same draft.

One guy I never wanted to give up hope on was Norm Milley. Throughout his OHL career. I liked him in his rookie year, patted myself on the back when he got drafted and then broke out as a big-time scorer. Could never figure out why he didn't look like the same player to me as pro. Brule can go in a category like that too. He just looked so damned good even before his draft year. And then I see him in the NHL, and it's just not the same guy. Lundmark fits that very well too.

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07-29-2009, 05:20 PM
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Dunno drafted in the 1st round, superstar brother decent size and skill set. Try to wrap your mind around that. I don't think anyone was expecting 100pt seasons from him but after his 6 goals in 5 games I think most of us thought we had a solid first liner.
Even as a junior, I never saw anything that would lead me to believe that he was even remotely capable of being a first line player.

His offensive instincts weren't the issue, but his tenacity, toughness and intensity was clearly lacking and was the obvious difference between his brother and him.

Marian had all the offensive tools, plus the drive and grit that is required to be an effective NHL player. At the time Marcel was drafted, this was clearly stated by almost all of the hockey observers that covered the draft, so it's not like it was a big surprise when thats exactly how things played out at the NHL level.

I thought he was a lousy pick then - I wouldn't have had a problem with gambling on him, but not in the first round - and I think he's a lousy pick now.

And for the record, I was pretty active in the Montreal message boards, here and at another site previously, and I don't recall "most" people projecting Marcel to be a first liner. In fact, most people felt his biggest strength was that he might ultimatley be a lure to get his brother here.

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I forgot someone in my initial post:

Stanislav Chistov.

I once boldy wrote in THN (it got published) that he was the next Paul Kariya and would be a 90 point producer in the NHL.

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I forgot someone in my initial post:

Stanislav Chistov.

I once boldy wrote in THN (it got published) that he was the next Paul Kariya and would be a 90 point producer in the NHL.
I remember in NHL 2002-2005 I'd always trade for him 'cause he was so damn fast

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07-29-2009, 05:38 PM
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Oh please.Man could not skate.

Legein is still very young.He's only 20 years old
Hal Gill can't skate either. It's an important asset, but it isn't everything.

Legein retired IIRC. He quit hockey some years ago.

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Matt Higgins

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I forgot someone in my initial post:

Stanislav Chistov.

I once boldy wrote in THN (it got published) that he was the next Paul Kariya and would be a 90 point producer in the NHL.
That's funny. What made you think that? I only ask because he never played in North America before coming to the NHL, so you couldn't have made that prediction based on watching him!

Hell, he only scored five goals in three seasons in Russia before going to the Anaheim!

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Chris Higgins.
Everybody was looking at him as beeing our first line power forward.
So true, I don't doubt a change of scenery could be beneficial to his career tho.

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07-29-2009, 05:49 PM
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5) Brad Brown - When the Canadiens drafted Brad Brown, I was so excited. He was the guy I had hoped they would take. He was the Habs first round pick in 1994 (same draft as Storr) and the team badly needed a big, mean, bruising blueliner. At the time, only Lyle Odelein provided toughness on the D, and Brown was being described by scouts as a "in the mould of Scott Stevens." The Habs let Brown spend two more years in Junior then had him learn the ropes in the AHL. All the things you're supposed to do with a defensive defenseman. He would only play a handful of games as Canadien, however, after never really delivering on his potential. He'd get shipped to Chicago in the Jocelyn Thibault trade then have stops in New York, Minnesota and Buffalo before sinking back to the AHL. He's still playing pro hockey, but for the past two years, he's fallen as far as stints in the ECHL. Just never panned out.
OMG I haven't heard that name in so long. I thought that guy was going to be like a superstar rofl. Then I never heard of him again pretty much. So true tho. Also wanted to mention the thread is both for AHL players etc who didn't make it when you thought they would, but it's also for NHLers who didn't pan out to be as good as everyone thought they'd be. Like 90-100pt guy projection wise doing 50-60pts is acceptable too, or even if you just thought he'd be that type of player but wasn't, it's purely opinionated.

I always thought Zherdev would be much better then he is.

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07-29-2009, 05:58 PM
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I guess Nathan Horton could also be a good candidate. Not a bad player, but if he had any type of motivation (and I guess a better supporting cast), he'd be a 50-goal scorer.

He never took the reigns of that team.

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I really taught mike fischer would be a great player in this league, I don't like the sens but I've always loved the way he plays and I hope he can turn it around a bit

there are too many hyped players in this league, I think toskala and Theodore are already major busts as well as huet considering how good some people seemed to think he was in Montreal

Esposito was probably the biggest bust to get ever get hyped about at 17 years old, I think playing for the juniors did him a lot of good though and hope he can put in sometime in Atlanta next year, he definatly has skill but he seems more High and laid back then price sometimes!

Just for the **** of it my vote for biggest bust in 2009 has to be mats sundin, what a waste of my time last summer !!
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Montreal Canadiens draftees

Two defencemen in the 90s I really liked and thought had the potential to become 1st pairing type of players for Montreal:

- Marko Kiprusoff
- Miloslav Guren

Goaltenders I thought had the potential but never made it big:

- Vadim Tarasov
- Mathieu Garon

Other team's biggest flops on top of my head

- Rico Fata
- Alexander Svitov
- Patrick Stefan

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I really did think Garon would be a good #1 in the NHL. He seemed to have a lot of talent.

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07-29-2009, 06:16 PM
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That's funny. What made you think that? I only ask because he never played in North America before coming to the NHL, so you couldn't have made that prediction based on watching him!

Hell, he only scored five goals in three seasons in Russia before going to the Anaheim!
I remember being pretty impressed with him at the WJC one year. If I'm not mistaken he had more goals than Kovalchuk one tourney. Also, I remember reading numerous reports about him being the most skilled in the entire draft. Many thought that if he were bigger, he would have given Kovy a run for his money as 1st overall.

Plus, I've had NHL Centre Ice since it came out and I watched quite a few of his games as a rookie. Many nights he was one of the most dangerous forwards on the ice, but it wouldn't really show on the score sheet.

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Alex Bourret.

He was a dominant physical force despite being only 5.8 or 5.9 (probably tops 200 pounds though) and I thought that at worse he would be a 3rd or 4th line grinder ala Jordin Tootoo. At the Top Porpsects game back in 2005 he absolutely rocked Bobby Ryan (who is quite a big man) and got a shoulder injury.

I believe that once Bourret got drafted he didn't put the effort necessary and thought he had it made. I heard from various people that he is a pretty cocky kid. Too bad for him.

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Pat Fallon.I have a hockey card where bob Mackenzie writes "he's sure to be an allstar for years to come"

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