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07-31-2009, 01:45 PM
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Ottawa - Philly

Ottawa: Dany Heatley + Zubov

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Philadelphia: Dany Briere + JVR


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No thanks from me. Not worth losing our top prospect for a quitter. At least Briere wants to play for us, even if his deal is bad.

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NOOOOOOO

WE don't want Briere's huge contract, and we have to add Zubov?

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NOOOOOOO

WE don't want Briere's huge contract, and we have to add Zubov?
id rather have brieres huge contract then cry baby who thinks he's more important then his entire team when he publicly asks for a trade cause he can't listen to his couch.

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07-31-2009, 02:03 PM
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Interesting proposal.

I was under the impression that JVR is to Philly what Hodgson is to my 'Nucks. In other words, completely untradeable and shouldn't even be brought up in proposal's like this -- but maybe I'm wrong. Either way, the deal seems 'fair' for both sides.

Heatley > Briere
Zubov < JVR

So yes, value is there... basically it's a change of scenary for the 'crybaby' and Philly unloads the albatross contract in Gomez-ian fashion. JVR and Zubov are thrown in to balance it out. Still not sure if either team pulls the trigger on this... is OTT really looking for someone of Briere's ilk? JVR is definitely the sweetener for them here.

Conclusion: Value? Yes. Needs? Undecided (hoping others can chime in).

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07-31-2009, 02:09 PM
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No from Ottawa. We have Spezza, we don't need another #1 Centre.

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Interesting proposal.

I was under the impression that JVR is to Philly what Hodgson is to my 'Nucks. In other words, completely untradeable and shouldn't even be brought up in proposal's like this -- but maybe I'm wrong. Either way, the deal seems 'fair' for both sides.

Heatley > Briere
Zubov < JVR

So yes, value is there... basically it's a change of scenary for the 'crybaby' and Philly unloads the albatross contract in Gomez-ian fashion. JVR and Zubov are thrown in to balance it out. Still not sure if either team pulls the trigger on this... is OTT really looking for someone of Briere's ilk? JVR is definitely the sweetener for them here.

Conclusion: Value? Yes. Needs? Undecided (hoping others can chime in).
Value is not fair at all.

Briere is 31, and a 30 gaol scorer

Heatley is 28 and a 50 goal scorer

JVR is much better than Zubov, but it doesn't offset enough for Heatley

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Value is not fair at all.

Briere is 31, and a 30 gaol scorer

Heatley is 28 and a 50 goal scorer

JVR is much better than Zubov, but it doesn't offset enough for Heatley
Briere is more of a playmaker though... but you're right he's not close to Heatley's value. Maybe I'm just overrating JVR as the offset.

What would it take for this to work from an OTT perspective?

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No way. We don't need a 2nd line center making almost 7 million. Pass - big time.

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Value is not fair at all.

Briere is 31, and a 30 gaol scorer

Heatley is 28 and a 50 goal scorer

JVR is much better than Zubov, but it doesn't offset enough for Heatley
Heatley is also 2 mil more. The Flyers pass n this deal without even thinking twice. Ottowa may not want Briere but we DO. We DON'T want Heatley because we have a much much better team without him.

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id rather have brieres huge contract then cry baby who thinks he's more important then his entire team when he publicly asks for a trade cause he can't listen to his couch.
To be fair, I don't listen to my couch either.

I don't think Philly does this trade. In fact, I see Heatley starting and possibly finishing the season with Ottawa. Not only does Heatley have a big contract, but a choice on where he goes. I don't see many teams that want to take the risk involved with trading for him. A lot of value and salary.

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As a sens fan, I like this trade. Good proposal.

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id rather have brieres huge contract then cry baby who thinks he's more important then his entire team when he publicly asks for a trade cause he can't listen to his couch.

His couch was talking to him? That's messed up.

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id rather have brieres huge contract then cry baby who thinks he's more important then his entire team when he publicly asks for a trade cause he can't listen to his couch.
Yeeeaaa.... i dont want any player that cant take orders from his couch either.

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No from Ottawa. We have Spezza, we don't need another #1 Centre.
By that logic, Pittsburgh shouldn't have Crosby AND Malkin. And didn't they just win the cup?

It's just like am/pm says...you can never have too much good stuff.

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id rather have brieres huge contract then cry baby who thinks he's more important then his entire team when he publicly asks for a trade cause he can't listen to his couch.
My couch is always telling me to sit down and chill out. I don't know why Heatley has such a problem with his. They're pretty easy to get along with I find...

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I thought my proposal was fair value.

But what does each team need to add to make it work?

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Done from Ottawa

Briere gets a bad rep around here. Sure he is overpaid and looks like a child predator but he still can put up 80 point seasons. JVR is the key here, the guy is criminally underrated and will be a Ryan Getzlaf/Bobby Ryan clone in the NHL.

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I like Briere, but for Heatley? Come on. And I don't want the most overrated prospect in hockey, they don't call him The Loaf for nothing.

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Sens have a guy in the NCAA with almost the same number of points as JVR. A defenceman no less.

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No. I don't want Heatley to say in 3 years "I want to leave". So far...that is his track record.

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Briere is more of a playmaker though... but you're right he's not close to Heatley's value. Maybe I'm just overrating JVR as the offset.

What would it take for this to work from an OTT perspective?
I'd be fine with Briere + JVR + Phi 2010 1st

Not really high on taking Briere's contract but if Heatley is not coming back in Ottawa and there is no other options, then do it


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Heatley is also 2 mil more. The Flyers pass n this deal without even thinking twice. Ottowa may not want Briere but we DO. We DON'T want Heatley because we have a much much better team without him.
? The Flyers will win the Cup with Heatley. You add a 50 goals scorer over a player that was injuried since he's there. And you added Pronger, Laperriere and Emery, that's a lot of character.

Heatley (even iwith selfish star syndrome) for Briere would automatically make the Flyers the best team in the NHL. Flyers fans would be crazy not wanting that.


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No. I don't want Heatley to say in 3 years "I want to leave". So far...that is his track record.
If it happens (doesn't mean it would), then you trade him and get some assets back. I doubt he would ever ask another pubicly (is he the one who leaked it?) and after some 40-50 goals seasons, his value will be a lot better than Briere + a prospect


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I'd be fine with Briere + JVR + Phi 2010 1st

Not really high on taking Briere's contract but if Heatley is not coming back in Ottawa and there is no other options, then do it




? The Flyers will win the Cup with Heatley. You add a 50 goals scorer over a player that was injuried since he's there. And you added Pronger, Laperriere and Emery, that's a lot of character.

Heatley (even iwith selfish star syndrome) for Briere would automatically make the Flyers the best team in the NHL. Flyers fans would be crazy not wanting that.


Heatley-Richards-Hartnell
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Are you kidding me?
I don't think we have the money to take on Zubov and Heatley.

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