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08-02-2009, 06:19 AM
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Bruins in trade talks with 2 Western Teams regarding Kessel

Yeah, I know it is Brooks...but thought I would share anyway.

"The Bruins, we're told by a well-placed informant, are talking with "two West Coast" clubs about a deal for unsigned Group II winger Phil Kessel. B's are allegedly seeking a young roster player, a prospect and a first-rounder."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08022009...553.htm?page=0

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Yeah, I know it is Brooks...but thought I would share anyway.

"The Bruins, we're told by a well-placed informant, are talking with "two West Coast" clubs about a deal for unsigned Group II winger Phil Kessel. B's are allegedly seeking a young roster player, a prospect and a first-rounder."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08022009...553.htm?page=0
This sounds like a scene from a movie where the chauffeur is actually not the chauffeur.

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Yeah, I know it is Brooks...but thought I would share anyway.

"The Bruins, we're told by a well-placed informant, are talking with "two West Coast" clubs about a deal for unsigned Group II winger Phil Kessel. B's are allegedly seeking a young roster player, a prospect and a first-rounder."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08022009...553.htm?page=0
What a coincidence that it's the same thing Brian Burke wanted for Kaberle.

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Yeah, I know it is Brooks...but thought I would share anyway.

"The Bruins, we're told by a well-placed informant, are talking with "two West Coast" clubs about a deal for unsigned Group II winger Phil Kessel. B's are allegedly seeking a young roster player, a prospect and a first-rounder."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08022009...553.htm?page=0
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What a coincidence that it's the same thing Brian Burke wanted for Kaberle.

still love that the deal fell apart at the draft table becuase the Bruins thought the leafs were tradiung kabs and their first rounder for Kessel and it was not kessel straight for Kaberle(like the leafs wanted)(--talk about a breakdown in communications

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still love that the deal fell apart at the draft table becuase the Bruins thought the leafs were tradiung kabs and their first rounder for Kessel and it was not kessel straight for Kaberle(like the leafs wanted)(--talk about a breakdown in communications
I thought the Leafs wanted Kessell+Boston's 1st for kaberle.

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still love that the deal fell apart at the draft table becuase the Bruins thought the leafs were tradiung kabs and their first rounder for Kessel and it was not kessel straight for Kaberle(like the leafs wanted)(--talk about a breakdown in communications
It seemed fishy to me. There's more to it then we know. I highly doubt they boggled the trade like that. It's not like they don't both speak english.

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I thought the Leafs wanted Kessell+Boston's 1st for kaberle.
That was presumed at one point as well. Maybe just around here though.

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It seems like I have read a rumor about Kessel going to every team except for Calgary and Pheonix

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Yeah, I know it is Brooks...but thought I would share anyway.

"The Bruins, we're told by a well-placed informant, are talking with "two West Coast" clubs about a deal for unsigned Group II winger Phil Kessel. B's are allegedly seeking a young roster player, a prospect and a first-rounder."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08022009...553.htm?page=0
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you possibly do this trade when you can make an offer sheet up to 3-4.5 mil and only give up a 1st and 3rd, and 6 mil only adds in a 2nd, how is either of these less preferable than what the Bruins are reportedly demanding.

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Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you possibly do this trade when you can make an offer sheet up to 3-4.5 mil and only give up a 1st and 3rd, and 6 mil only adds in a 2nd, how is either of these less preferable than what the Bruins are reportedly demanding.
Because first Kessel would actually want to sign that deal, and second Boston matches and you get nothing for your efforts (except to keep your draft picks). Boston then has to clear salary before the start of the season, which is a crappy position to be in, but I think if Boston wanted just those picks for Kessel they would have already offloaded him in a trade for something similar.

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Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you possibly do this trade when you can make an offer sheet up to 3-4.5 mil and only give up a 1st and 3rd, and 6 mil only adds in a 2nd, how is either of these less preferable than what the Bruins are reportedly demanding.
The compensation for $5,231,249 - $6,539,062 million offer sheet is 2 1st's, a 2nd and a 3rd. Boston would not match and would gladly take those picks.

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So this rumor has risen slightly above the level of Eklund.

Maybe Bruch Garrioch will pick it up in a few days.

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The compensation for $5,231,249 - $6,539,062 million offer sheet is 2 1st's, a 2nd and a 3rd. Boston would not match and would gladly take those picks.
I have to wonder if people will say the same thing about Chicago and Kane next season.

Chia has said he will match any offersheet, then make the moves to make it work afterwards.

As for the rumor, it's just that, another rumor. Funny thing is, these are the exact same rumors that have been following Kessel his entire career. Apparently no one has ever offered enough in 3 years to land PK because Chiarelli has really really wanted to trade him... either that or Chia is just really ****** when it comes to pulling the trigger and the most indecisive GM ever to be in the NHL. Or, option 3, rumormongers are full of ****.

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I have to wonder if people will say the same thing about Chicago and Kane next season.
Chia has said he will match any offersheet, then make the moves to make it work afterwards.

As for the rumor, it's just that, another rumor. Funny thing is, these are the exact same rumors that have been following Kessel his entire career. Apparently no one has ever offered enough in 3 years to land PK because Chiarelli has really really wanted to trade him... either that or Chia is just really ****** when it comes to pulling the trigger and the most indecisive GM ever to be in the NHL. Or, option 3, rumormongers are full of ****.
No. Kane isnt going anywhere.

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I have to wonder if people will say the same thing about Chicago and Kane next season.

Chia has said he will match any offersheet, then make the moves to make it work afterwards.

As for the rumor, it's just that, another rumor. Funny thing is, these are the exact same rumors that have been following Kessel his entire career. Apparently no one has ever offered enough in 3 years to land PK because Chiarelli has really really wanted to trade him... either that or Chia is just really ****** when it comes to pulling the trigger and the most indecisive GM ever to be in the NHL. Or, option 3, rumormongers are full of ****.
well we know it can't be #3 so which of the other 2 is it?

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No. Kane isnt going anywhere.
And that's going to stop people speculating (especially considering the Hawks' cap situation)? I don't think Kane is going anywhere either, but you know everyone and their brother will have all kinds of rumors that he is.

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No. Kane isnt going anywhere.
Why, you don't think two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd would do it?

That's sarcasm btw. Point being, Boston accepting compensation for Kessel would be akin to the Hawks doing the same for Kane next year, as those two players are very similar and both teams are in a similar predicament. Either accepting compensation (read a crapshoot in a draft for a proven young talent) would be stupid to the nth degree.

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I have a feeling the two teams are Vancouver and Edmonton.

Vancouver - B's would want Burrows + Grabner + pick
Edmonton - Probably would want Cogliano + Eberly + pick

Personally I don't think Kessel is worth any package resembling these.

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I have to wonder if people will say the same thing about Chicago and Kane next season.
Kane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kessel

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Hey Brooks, I'm still waiting for the money on the "Lecavalier to Habs" rumour.

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Kane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kessel
Care to explain how? Elaborate a little?

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I have to wonder if people will say the same thing about Chicago and Kane next season.
Rumor lovers will also throw Keith's name around. Toews will probably be saved from the endless speculation only because he is the captain, otherwise they'd declare open season on him too.

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Rumor lovers will also throw Keith's name around. Toews will probably be saved from the endless speculation only because he is the captain, otherwise they'd declare open season on him too.
I don't think any will have to deal with the endless speculation Kessel has had throughout his career. Kessel has been getting flak early and often because of his style of play, which often goes unappreciated ny many in a town like Boston. If you can't deliver a bone jarring hit in Beantown, your value is severely decreased.

One need only look at Byron Bitz to realize often Physicality is more appreciated then skill, which although fun to watch, doesn't necessarily make the team a true top contender.

Kessel right now is suffering the same media backlash Joe Thornton did, however hopefully smarter management is in place now and the same mistakes won't be made.

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Care to explain how? Elaborate a little?
Why should he explain? That's LOT of chevrons!

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