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I have an idea for a new trophy, what do you think?

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04-01-2004, 06:16 PM
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I have an idea for a new trophy, what do you think?

After I posted the Art Ross thread, I had this idea that I really like. They should create a new award that is only handed out every 10 years and is awarded to the most dominant player of the decade. It would be the biggest award a player could get and would reward longevity, skill and true dominance in the game. To give an idea of how important this award would be, there would have only been 1 or 2 winners in all the time that most of you have followed hockey. Thoughts?

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Not a bad idea. I like it. Would certainly cause a lot of controversy, which this board thrives on.

It would lead to tough decisions, methinks. Gretzky would definitely get the award for the 80s, but who would win for the 90s? Lemieux's best years were late 80s to mid 90s, so him? Already sparking debate...

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The problem with that lies when there is no one true superstar. What if two players alternate Art Ross's the entire decade or something like that?

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The problem with that lies when there is no one true superstar. What if two players alternate Art Ross's the entire decade or something like that?
Then you give it to a defenseman or goalie. And you could name it after Jim Carey.

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The problem with that lies when there is no one true superstar. What if two players alternate Art Ross's the entire decade or something like that?
One of the players may have won the Hart more times, or led their team to more Stanley Cups or something.

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One of the players may have won the Hart more times, or led their team to more Stanley Cups or something.
That was just an example. My point was what if there is no surefire dominant guy? For example, who would it be in the 80's if there was no Gretzky?

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That was just an example. My point was what if there is no surefire dominant guy? For example, who would it be in the 80's if there was no Gretzky?
Peter Stastny was the 2nd highest scoring player in the 80's.

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The problem with that lies when there is no one true superstar. What if two players alternate Art Ross's the entire decade or something like that?
There are years where that happens for the Hart Trophy though. I'm sure that in that case you could look at the player's team's record over those years and it would help to make a decision.

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They should call it the Gretzky Trophy, he's bound to have a trophy named after him sometime in the future.

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but who would win for the 90s?
Dominik Hasek 5 Vezinas, back to back Hart trophies. He wasn't too bad.

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Right, Hasek was my first thought in the 90's, though Gretzky was the leading scorer throughout the 90's too.. but he never won a cup in the 90's.. then again, either did Hasek.

How about Steve Yzerman? Conn Smythe, 2 cups (or was it only 1 in the 90's?), and a BOATLOAD of points?

Or Scott Stevens.

Another choice could be Joe Sakic or Mario Lemieux.

Jagr I believe was 2nd in points in the 90's and won 2 cups, and was more or less the most dominant forward in the league for several years up until around 2001.

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Adam Oates would be a MAJOR sleeper for the 90s. Wasn't he the highest combined scorer from 95-2000 or something like that?

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What if a player was dominant from 96-04?

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a guys posted and never replied himself.

Bad idea. Bad trophy, too long a period to consider, not to mention the nomination chaos.

sure, 10 years, most dominant player, we would spend another 10 years arguing who to give the award to.

Bad idea. :lol

how do you define dominant? how do you set define and draw period line. There are too much on either side of arguments.

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I'd probably consider a guy like Joe Sakic for the 90s.

Or even Eric Lindros *duck and covers*

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i'm sorry but this award is useless.


99.9% of the players in the league don't 'dominate' for 10 whole years. only the true superstars of the superstars do it - gretzky, lemieux, but we all know who they are.


it'd be more interesting if it was handed out every FIVE years. then you could have some discussion. Like if naslund had another top-5 year next year he would get it for the 2000-2005 period. maybe. or somethin.

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I think it'd be interesting to add more trophies, but I dunno about what types...why not trophies that distinguish between Top scoring, and best defensive defencemen? And make the Norris strictly the trophy for the most well rounded guy?

They could make a trophy called the Harold Ballard, for guys who disapear in the playoffs...(I can make that joke...I'm a Leafs fan...lol)

Maybe a trophy for the best trade acquisition? For the GM? It could affectionately be known as the "Mike Milbury Cup"!

What about a trophy for the top powerforward?

Messier deserves a trophy named after him...

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