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08-09-2009, 02:32 PM
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Ya know guys, sometimes they put youngsters in the AHL for non-hockey reasons.

There is less pressure to perform there, with lower competition so they can get used to things like, ya know, living in another country with no friends or family?! Eating different foods? Speaking different languages? Having different phone numbers, different ways of meeting people and little things we all take for granted.

Hockey fans tend to forget that hockey isn't everything...
Good points, but I don't think it takes a whole year in the AHL to get accustomed to all these things.

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08-09-2009, 02:50 PM
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Good points, but I don't think it takes a whole year in the AHL to get accustomed to all these things.
Let's not forget that Tedenby, Josefson and Urbom already got a taste of NYC, they're good to go.

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08-09-2009, 03:56 PM
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I was just bored, looking at other teams' prospects and I came along Chicago's.

Now I don't see the real big difference between our prospects (gradwise) and theirs:

1. (4) Niklas Hjalmarsson, D 7.5B
2. (2) Kyle Beach, LW 7.5C
3. (13) Akim Aliu, RW 7.5D
4. (NR) Dylan Olsen, D 7.5D
5. (6) Shawn Lalonde, D 7.0C
6. (5) Billy Sweatt, LW 7.0C
7. (8) Jack Skille, RW 7.0C
8. (7) Igor Makarov, RW 7.0D
9. (14) Evan Brophey, C 7.0C
10. (NR) Brandon Pirri, C 7.0D
11. (12) Joe Fallon, G 7.0C
12. (NR) Dan DeLisle, C 7.0D
13. (15) Simon Danis-Pepin, D 6.5C
14. (18) Nathan Davis, C 6.5C
15. (NR) Dan Bertram, RW 7.0D
16. (NR) Jake Dowell, C 6.0C
17. (NR) Teigan Zahn, D 6.0C
18. (NR) Jonathan Carlsson, D 6.0C
19. (NR) Braden Birch, D 6.0C
20. (NR) Alec Richards, G 6.0C

1. Mattias Tedenby, LW 7.5C
2. Jacob Josefson, C 7.5C
3. Nicklas Bergfors, RW 7.0B
4. Matt Corrente, D 7.0B
5. Patrice Cormier, C 7.5C
6. Jeff Frazee, G 7.5C
7. Brandon Burlon, D 7.0C
8. Matt Halischuk, RW 6.5B
9. Tyler Eckford, D 7.0C
10. Alexander Vasyunov, LW 7.0C
11. Eric Gelinas, D 7.0C
12. Nick Palmieri, RW 7.0C
13. Alexander Urbom, D 6.5C
14. Adam Henrique, C 6.0C
15. Vladimir Zharkov, RW 6.0B
16. T.J. Miller, D 6.5C
17. Mike Hoeffel, LW 6.0B
18. Mark Fayne, D 6.5C
19. David Wohlberg, C 6.0C
20. David McIntyre, C 6.5D

I mean we could even argue that right now we have a better pipeline. If we are ranked below them I will definitely not approve seeing that we have an equal if not better prospect pool than them.

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08-09-2009, 03:58 PM
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I was just bored, looking at other teams' prospects and I came along Chicago's.
I wish we had Lalonde. He is awesome.

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I wish we had Lalonde. He is awesome.
Burlon is just about the same player/player type. Their potentials are very similar.

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Burlon is just about the same player/player type. Their potentials are very similar.
Very true. I wish we had both.


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Another thing that explains the prospects coming over and playing in the AHL over their respective national leagues is the fact that they need to acclimate to the smaller rink and changes in play that come with it. They spend the better part of their development in the superior national leagues developing their game, and then Lou gets them over to the AHL to get them ready for the NA game.
I think more than rink size, NA game, etc., with the Devils the most important thing is to learn the system and start being educated in what is expected of a New Jersey Devil in terms of defensive responsibility and two-way play.

Historically it has been very tough to crack the NHL roster, because Lou likes veteran leadership and players who have paid their dues and have learned the system. You will almost always see someone like a Jay Leach get the call over one of the kids.

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I mean we could even argue that right now we have a better pipeline. If we are ranked below them I will definitely not approve seeing that we have an equal if not better prospect pool than them.
There are a few things to take into account. They have far more young players on their big club than we do, which means some of their top prospects graduated from the pipeline and are no longer included.

Also, look at the turnover at the bottom of their list, a good half of the prospects in the top 20 weren't ranked last year. Unless a bunch of them declined, this also means top prospects graduated.

Their writer also seems to give out a lot of D grades. Not sure why, but I doubt all of them really are that unlikely to reach their potential, that would indicate bad drafting on Chicago's part, and we know that isn't true.

But I do like that the last two drafts have vastly improved our prospect pool, we finally have top end prospects besides Bergfors in the system. We also have quality depth at every position besides goalie, which I'm sure will be addressed in future drafts.

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08-09-2009, 06:41 PM
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Good points, but I don't think it takes a whole year in the AHL to get accustomed to all these things.
You're right, sometimes it takes much longer and players get homesick and decide to return to where they came from when they realize money might not matter as much to them as they thought...

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