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08-06-2009, 08:04 AM
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When the Rangers are playing the Flyers you will love them. If a hockey team is made up of only players everyone likes they are easy to play against, not what Torts is looking for.
Wrong. I love the Rangers but I also love hockey and neither of these pieces of trash deserve to be in the league. Brashear and Bertuzzi belong in Columbus or even better, the ECHL. I don't care what they do or who they play for. I will never cheer for them.

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08-06-2009, 08:56 AM
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One thing I am looking forward to is for everyone on the 4th line to be able to drop the gloves. Brashear is obviously the best but Boyle and Byers can both fight and are pretty good at it as well as bring some good size. I feel that is something that has been missing the last few years, all of the fighting duties have always just been with Orr, this year I expect to see quite a few different players fighting which will help the the energy level.
I know I'm nitpicking but...

I'll grant you that Boyle and Byers are willing fighters. But they are NOT good at it. Boyle has had one notable TKO, but he's been TKO'd himself multiple times. Byers agitates and drops his gloves, but he slips & falls quicker than Steve McKenna. Let's hope they're better players than Aaron Voros, but strictly in terms of fighting I don't think they'll offer much more than he did last year.


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08-06-2009, 09:20 AM
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I think of all the new players, besides the Gaborik hoop-la...

I am really excited about Higgins.

I think hes going to turn into a fan favorite here and I think when a lot of posters fill out their lineups or talk about the offense they forget to mention him or realize that he does a lot of good things out there. Hes a solid player that will fit nicely into what Tortorella wants to do here.

Can't wait to see how the lines shake out.

But going back to original post.

Meh. No Thanks. I dont think Bertuzzi fits into what the Rangers want to do here. They need skaters. Bertuzzi is not a skater.

Besides. I think the forwards are set and we dont have as much cap room as you think. The money should be used to sign Dubi and get another defenseman in here. Despite the great pool of D prospects, we have to sure up the backend a little more because right now if there is an injury (god forbid) to any of the top 4 NHL d'men, you are looking at 3 rookies in the lineup and another as the 7th. Most likely one of those pairs will be comprised of 2 rookies. Not good.

Not only does that not make sense on the NHL level, it prevents giving time to another prospect in Hartford that probably needs it.

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08-06-2009, 09:23 AM
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Call me crazy, but I think if Bertuzzi could be had for 1 year, 1.5 million, you have to at least look into it.

Besides Anisimov, I dont think any of our other young forwards (Grachev) are ready for the prime-time yet, and Im not sold on Enver Lisin at all.

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08-06-2009, 09:27 AM
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Where did you get that quote from?

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08-06-2009, 09:39 AM
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I wouldn't mind Bert at all for a 1 year/1.5M deal. He's a tough player that can get dirty.

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08-06-2009, 10:57 AM
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Where exactly do you see Bertuzzi in the picture? Brashear serves a roll...does Bertuzzi even fight anymore?

Higgins Dubinsky Gaborik
Kotalik Drury Callahan
Avery Anisimov Lisin
Brasher Boyle Arnason/Voros/Byers

Other players to consider: Rissmiller, PAP


We're pretty stacked at forward...and I don't think Bertuzzi has any business in the top 9, and honestly probably not the top 12 either.
I don't think Arnason will make the team or PAP and Rissmiller. I would like to see PAP get a shot but he would be more suited for the 3rd line, but that is pretty tight.

I think Bertuzzi would be good for this lineup. Drury is going to need some help with leadership and he could help in that department. As a previous poster said we will need the toughness against the Flyers, because I can guarantee that Pronger will try to take somebody out. With a little more toughness in the lineup it will help over the year and especially the playoffs. As we all know the Caps ran all over us!

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08-06-2009, 11:03 AM
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No. The team is more or less set at this point, especially up front. Maybe bring in another defenseman, but that's it.

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08-06-2009, 11:23 AM
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No. The team is more or less set at this point, especially up front. Maybe bring in another defenseman, but that's it.
Id agree with the top 9 with the exception of Lisin. Im not sold on a guy that was a scratch half the time on a brutal Phoenix team.

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08-06-2009, 12:03 PM
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I know I'm nitpicking but...

I'll grant you that Boyle and Byers are willing fighters. But they are NOT good at it. Boyle has had one notable TKO, but he's been TKO'd himself multiple times. Byers agitates and drops his gloves, but he slips & falls quicker than Steve McKenna. Let's hope they're better players than Aaron Voros, but strictly in terms of fighting I don't think they'll offer much more than he did last year.
But that is what I am talking about. I am not saying they are heavyweights, more willing participants. It adds a new dimension because Betts and Sjostrom did not fight ever.

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we barely any cap room as it but i would much rather have Bertuzzi then Brashear as our enforcer, atleast bertuzzi has 44 points last season compared to brashers 4 points.
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I don't think Arnason will make the team or PAP and Rissmiller. I would like to see PAP get a shot but he would be more suited for the 3rd line, but that is pretty tight.

I think Bertuzzi would be good for this lineup. Drury is going to need some help with leadership and he could help in that department. As a previous poster said we will need the toughness against the Flyers, because I can guarantee that Pronger will try to take somebody out. With a little more toughness in the lineup it will help over the year and especially the playoffs. As we all know the Caps ran all over us!
you think drury needs help with leadership?
Gab was cap/alt
redden was alt
higgins was alt

so i think we have enough people to step up to wear the A's

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08-06-2009, 12:29 PM
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Bertuzzi = NO.

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I like the idea of Bertz on the Rangers. He can play on a number of lines and at the right price can workout really well. He'd be much more effective then Voros and on night where we don't need a pure pugilist, he and voros on a line together while Brashear sits, would work well too.

When AO starts running around and getting over zealous with his late hits or Sid's cheap shots, Prongers all out dirty play, who better to sick after them or to have as a strategic deterrent then Bertuzzi. Heck, I'd be afraid of retaliation from the guy, he do something foolish and end my career.

With Avery drawing the attention, Bertuzzi clobbering when they're not looking and Brashear flattening anyone who doesn't like it, the Rangers would have all the tools to compete against a physical team and draw all the attention away from the guys who need to score.

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Where exactly do you see Bertuzzi in the picture? Brashear serves a roll...does Bertuzzi even fight anymore?

Higgins Dubinsky Gaborik
Kotalik Drury Callahan
Avery Anisimov Lisin
Brasher Boyle Arnason/Voros/Byers

Other players to consider: Rissmiller, PAP


We're pretty stacked at forward...and I don't think Bertuzzi has any business in the top 9, and honestly probably not the top 12 either.
Yes he does fight and he can fit on either wing on the fourth line and if he plays well enough, the 3rd line where Lisin sits on the 4th line where he can essentially be a PP specialist.

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I am really excited about Higgins.
HELL YES! I've wanted to see this kid in a Ranger's for years, way back to just being a prospect for Montreal. The talk is going to be how do we find the cap space to sign him long term.

He was unfairly treated in Montreal and the critics in NY won't like his dry spells that all goal scorers go through, but this kid can finish!

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Why was the quote removed? I'd like to read the article.

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Where did you get that quote from?

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When I posted the link... it was blocked.

So I cut and pasted it into a quote... and it was removed.

So... no idea.

It was an article from the Bleacher Report.

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Interested in neidermeyer as well.

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Bertuzzi at this stage of his career is 3rd line and below. He had some good spurts last season but he takes a ton of ridiculously stupid and untimely penalties, and I don't know if he would be a final piece per say.

With Avery and Brashear and Dubinsky moving up the ranks, we have enough agitators on this team already.

I just hope he stays out of the conference, contrary to reports

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Want no part of Bertuzzi. Not this guy. Eric Lindros. Bobby Holik. Not Bertuzzi.

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we barely any cap room as it but i would much rather have Bertuzzi then Brashear as our enforcer, atleast bertuzzi has 44 points last season compared to brashers 4 points.

you think drury needs help with leadership?
Gab was cap/alt
redden was alt
higgins was alt

so i think we have enough people to step up to wear the A's
So was gomez and naslund, did you think they helped a lot? With a new team, coach, and attitude we need some additional veteran help. There is pressure on Drury this year to turn things around becuase at this point his best asset (leadership) has not been very good. Redden will not be an A next year nor Higgins, it will probably be Rosy from the defense and Gab.

From the veteran/ leadership stand point Bertuzzi fills a need that is missing. He provides some decent scoring from the third line and is interchangeable on each of our lines. For the money he would get on a 1 year deal, I would take him over voros, riss, and arnason....I hope they send those 3 on a one-way bus ticket to Hartford

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We already have 2 of my top 5 most hated players on this team in Avery and Brashear. Lets not make it 3 please.
I say we SHOULD make it 3!

Make teams think twice about playing ice capades all over the Garden ice without a smack in the mouth

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We would then be the most hated team in the league. I could see bench clearing brawls at least 2 times a week.

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We would then be the most hated team in the league. I could see bench clearing brawls at least 2 times a week.
Amen!

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We would then be the most hated team in the league. I could see bench clearing brawls at least 2 times a week.
I would love that!!! Fight night back at the Garden.

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