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D Ryan Murphy - Kitchener Rangers, OHL (2011, 12th overall, Carolina)

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10-31-2010, 06:18 PM
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I hope he at least gets the chance to go to the evaluation camp. I have a feeling his play his way on to the team, if given the chance. Teams aren't going to be used to dealing with such dynamic offensive defenseman.

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10-31-2010, 06:42 PM
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One of the defenseman currently making the team will have to have an injury for him to have a spot.

And to be honest, if Ellis isn't able to go, there might be better, more veteran options to fill in.

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11-01-2010, 08:00 AM
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Tough spot for Murphy this year. Ellis, DeHaan, Gromley will be there with there offense leaving him little room unless a injury happens.

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11-01-2010, 03:27 PM
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Talent wins out in the end. He's had a great start and if he has a good camp and shows he clearly belongs and can be a dangerous weapon for Canada at the tournament, the staff will make room for him.

With all the veteran talent out there he's going to have to have the kind of camp that makes it impossible to cut him, but that's not out of the question.

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11-01-2010, 03:36 PM
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Talent wins out in the end. He's had a great start and if he has a good camp and shows he clearly belongs and can be a dangerous weapon for Canada at the tournament, the staff will make room for him.

With all the veteran talent out there he's going to have to have the kind of camp that makes it impossible to cut him, but that's not out of the question.
Agreed. The PPQB thing to me is pointless. He doesn't have to prove that hes better than Ellis. He just have to prove hes the 6th best D-man there or better.

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11-01-2010, 03:38 PM
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Talent wins out in the end. He's had a great start and if he has a good camp and shows he clearly belongs and can be a dangerous weapon for Canada at the tournament, the staff will make room for him.

With all the veteran talent out there he's going to have to have the kind of camp that makes it impossible to cut him, but that's not out of the question.
Well Murphy had that kind of camp at the Ivan Hlinka camp and they still cut him.

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11-01-2010, 06:03 PM
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But how many power play specialists do you need on one team?!!!! You have Ellis, and DeHaan, from the OHL alone that can run the power play. Then you have Doherty, Gubranson, Blacker also all from the O. There will definitely be some D from the WHL. Can't see any chance that he will make it!

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11-01-2010, 06:20 PM
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But how many power play specialists do you need on one team?!!!! You have Ellis, and DeHaan, from the OHL alone that can run the power play. Then you have Doherty, Gubranson, Blacker also all from the O. There will definitely be some D from the WHL. Can't see any chance that he will make it!
Ryan Murphy is pretty good at 5 on 5 too if you like goals...personally I like goals, especially with no Tavares, Hall, or Stamkos calibre players on our offense this year.

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11-01-2010, 06:21 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Murphy is better than Ellis? Murphy has better offensive instincts than Ellis, better lateral movement, better skater. Plus, Ellis was exposed by the U.S.' high flying forwards last year defensively. Hopefully ageism doesn't win out here. DeHaan, I haven't seen much of to form an opinion.

I just hope he gets a shot at the evaluation camp. He's at least earned that.

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11-01-2010, 07:15 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Murphy is better than Ellis? Murphy has better offensive instincts than Ellis, better lateral movement, better skater. Plus, Ellis was exposed by the U.S.' high flying forwards last year defensively. Hopefully ageism doesn't win out here. DeHaan, I haven't seen much of to form an opinion.

I just hope he gets a shot at the evaluation camp. He's at least earned that.
There defintely are good arguements for Murphy being better, but Team Canada always favours veterans.

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11-09-2010, 09:17 PM
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Ryan Murphy = Paul Coffey?

Does anyone else think Murphy could be another Coffey? Coffey wasn't the biggest dman either and both have got the "it" factor offensively.

On a side note, I believe Coffey also played for Kitchener in juniors?

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11-09-2010, 09:25 PM
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Nah. Ryan Murphy = Ryan Ellis.

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Paul Coffey was almost one of a kind. The way he could take over a game from the blueline by himself was something else. Murphy is showing the ability to take over a game at the OHL level at the moment.

If your making a comparison linking both Murphy and Coffey's style of play you could make a good argument that they play a similar game, but unless Ryan Murphy becomes one of the greatest defenseman of his generation and dominates the NHL for 20 years much like Coffey did then this isn't the right comparison.

I see Murphy more as a Brian Rafalski type player with better offensive instincts. If he fills out his frame I could see him having a Drew Doughty type breakout after his first 2-3 years.

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11-09-2010, 09:30 PM
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Nah. Ryan Murphy = Ryan Ellis.
I think people just assume this is a good comparison because they are both are small puck moving defenseman that have/are putting up obscene numbers for a defenseman in their draft years. If you watch them they really don't play that much alike.

Murphy is far and away a better skater than Ellis was at that age and Murphy's ability to jump into the rush and become a fourth forward seems to be the way he puts up a lot of his points. Ellis is a very average skater and he put up most of his point's on the powerplay in Windsor with his rocket of a shot.

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Wrong.. Erik Karlsson is the 2nd coming he's already here

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Wrong.. Erik Karlsson is the 2nd coming he's already here
What you really meant to say was Sami Vatanen, right?

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11-09-2010, 10:08 PM
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Nah. Ryan Murphy = Ryan Ellis.
I absolutuely hate this comparison. The best thing they have in common is both were their teams elite PMDs. They are tottaly diffrent players.

Before you make a comparison, make sure you watch a player first.

@thread, its a little early to say that, but they are similiar players, even if talent level is diffrent.

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11-09-2010, 11:23 PM
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Dude, he's not even 6 feet, he's maybe like 175 lbs. soaking wet, 17 years old, and hasn't played a game against fully developed men in the NHL...and you're already comparing him to one of the five greatest defensemen ever?

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11-09-2010, 11:29 PM
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Comparing Ryan Murphy to Coffey sure is driving the hype machine.

The game has changed so much and a great season by a Dman is getting close to a PPG here are the best seasons in the last 10 years

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...rder_by=points

Maybe Murphy goes to a perfect situation ans in time get close to the PPG average but is there a better perfect situation right now than Washington?

Mike Green has just gone over a PPG 2 times and both times he was less than 80 points on the year..

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11-09-2010, 11:31 PM
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I absolutuely hate this comparison. The best thing they have in common is both were their teams elite PMDs. They are tottaly diffrent players.

Before you make a comparison, make sure you watch a player first.

@thread, its a little early to say that, but they are similiar players, even if talent level is diffrent.
It was just a joke.

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Wrong.. Erik Karlsson is the 2nd coming he's already here
LOL whut?

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11-10-2010, 05:43 AM
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I live in Kitchener and I have watched Murphy play a lot. Yes both players played in Kitchener and that is about as far as it goes in terms of similarities. Paul Coffey is a generational talent. Coffey got over 100 points five times in his career with a high of 138. Coffey had 1531 career points. Now with that all said Murphy is a great prospect but give him some time and he will develope into a great NHL offensive defenceman.

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11-10-2010, 09:38 AM
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Murphy is more of a smaller and less physical Mike Green.

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Can't wait for the next 100 point Dman.

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Can't wait for the next 100 point Dman.
Your probably going to be waiting a while, a long while.

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