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08-10-2009, 06:40 PM
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Good he's tough. I like that. We need that.

How is he defensively? Can he play?

I'd like to move Rozsival afterwords.

And then go ahead and sign Schneider, too.

That gives us the PP QB and the hard-hitting defensemen we need.

Staal - Girardi
Redden - Bouillon
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08-10-2009, 06:58 PM
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Meh. This is a total non-event if we do it. Frankly I would view it as insurance in case the kids don't step up to take the bottom two spots. But my preference (and I'd wager the organization's) would be for two kids to force him to the press box.

Just so long as we don't sign him for multiple years or big dollars.

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Zipay says this is (no more than) one of several lukewarm rumors that the Rangers are exploring.

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if it means we can move rozy, sign me up.

hes tough as nails and a gamer. hes got a huge heart.

give me boullion and babchuk and i could be happy.

dump rozy and dubi and get me a centerman with wheels and i could be very happy.


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staal/girardi
redden/gilroy
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Zipay says this is (no more than) one of several lukewarm rumors that the Rangers are exploring.

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Jesus. When I read "Soupy" I almost choked-- I thought he meant Brian Campbell.

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Good he's tough. I like that. We need that.

How is he defensively? Can he play?

I'd like to move Rozsival afterwords.

And then go ahead and sign Schneider, too.

That gives us the PP QB and the hard-hitting defensemen we need.

Staal - Girardi
Redden - Bouillon
Schneider - Gilroy
He is a bottom-pairing d-man, he would be the type of guy who could solidify the bottom-pairing with 2 rookies in a rotation or play all 82 games back there but I wouldnt pencil him into the top-4.

I would guess something like this would be the most likely:

Staal-Girardi
Redden-Rozsival
Bouillon-Gilroy
Potter

With the bottom three battling it out for playing time as the season goes on and keeping the option for Torts to bench someone if he feels it is needed.

He is a good skater and a battler, something that is nice to see on defense considering the last player we really saw like this was Kaspar(although Bouillon fights as well)


Also, just to show how stocky the guy is, he is listed at 5'8 200lbs.

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He is a bottom-pairing d-man, he would be the type of guy who could solidify the bottom-pairing with 2 rookies in a rotation or play all 82 games back there but I wouldnt pencil him into the top-4.

I would guess something like this would be the most likely:

Staal-Girardi
Redden-Rozsival
Bouillon-Gilroy
Potter

With the bottom three battling it out for playing time as the season goes on and keeping the option for Torts to bench someone if he feels it is needed.

He is a good skater and a battler, something that is nice to see on defense considering the last player we really saw like this was Kaspar(although Bouillon fights as well)


Also, just to show how stocky the guy is, he is listed at 5'8 200lbs.
That's fine with me.

If you want to keep Rozsival.

His height doesn't matter to me. As long as he's tough and built strong.

The fact he was born in New York City wins me over, too.

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Yes, lets sign a player who is 6'3 but who will get their ass beaten by Bouillon. Size doesnt always equate to toughness. Look at Domi.

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Yes, lets sign a player who is 6'3 but who will get their ass beaten by Bouillon. Size doesnt always equate to toughness. Look at Domi.
It's not just his size, and I do appreciate the heart of a player like that, but isn't he injury prone?

I just want Beukeboom 2.0!

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It's not just his size, and I do appreciate the heart of a player like that, but isn't he injury prone?

I just want Beukeboom 2.0!
Ahh, okay, this argument makes more sense to me. He is a bit injury prone but if you only expect him to play 45-50 games a season than he is perfect. The reason he gets hurt is because he plays the game hard. If they were in a 3-man rotation say with Gilroy and Potter than he would be able to take a game off here or there to rest his minor injuries before they become serious.

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Ahh, okay, this argument makes more sense to me. He is a bit injury prone but if you only expect him to play 45-50 games a season than he is perfect. The reason he gets hurt is because he plays the game hard. If they were in a 3-man rotation say with Gilroy and Potter than he would be able to take a game off here or there to rest his minor injuries before they become serious.
That would make more sense, but isn't Sauer supposed to be physical and NHL ready?

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That would make more sense, but isn't Sauer supposed to be physical and NHL ready?
He is a pretty physical defenseman. He might be ready for the NHL but what is wrong with having a guy who can be the #6/#7 just in case a rookie isnt quite ready?

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That would make more sense, but isn't Sauer supposed to be physical and NHL ready?
I'm a big fan of Sauer, and he is physical. However, he's not out there looking to crush people every chance he gets as some seem to believe. He's the type that doesn't shy away from contact and takes the body when presented with the opportunity. But he's not Jeff Beukeboom.

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I'm a big fan of Sauer, and he is physical. However, he's not out there looking to crush people every chance he gets as some seem to believe. He's the type that doesn't shy away from contact and takes the body when presented with the opportunity. But he's not Jeff Beukeboom.
Is he at least a simple, stay-at-home, defensively responsible d-man?

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Is he at least a simple, stay-at-home, defensively responsible d-man?
Absolutely. I think he'll be a very steady defenseman at the NHL level. And he IS a physical player...just not like Phaneuf where he's looking to kill everyone.

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Is he at least a simple, stay-at-home, defensively responsible d-man?
Yes, that he is.

Sauer getting a full shot this year would be great, too.

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Absolutely. I think he'll be a very steady defenseman at the NHL level. And he IS a physical player...just not like Phaneuf where he's looking to kill everyone.
That's what we need. I love big hits, but not at the expense of getting out of position. Defense is key.

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Yes, lets sign a player who is 6'3 but who will get their ass beaten by Bouillon. Size doesnt always equate to toughness. Look at Domi.
Bouillon isn't beating anyone's ass. I'll give you that he's tough but he hardly, if ever, decidedly wins a fight. IMO he'll get a slight edge in a fight here or there but that's about the extent of it.

Honestly I'd rather leave the spot open for one of our young home grown guys to take the 5/6 spots. I really think Potter, Gilroy, Sauer or Heikkenen will make up our 5/6/7 spots on defense.


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with brash patrolling the ice, we wont be needing cube to be fighting anyone.

if he comes, and i would have no problem signing him if it means moving rozy which would free up money for an impact player, then hell be a great 3rd pair guy who takes the body and makes the safe play.

as a 3rd pair guy, he would be an nhl ready upgrade to our defense.

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I'm on the Bouillon bandwagon, not bad for a 3rd pairing guy and I'm a big proponent of carrying 7 defenseman so no one gets too complacent.

However, the fact that some people believe Bouillon can replace Rozsival is just beyond me. Yes, he is painful to watch on the PP sometimes, but his defensive play is much better than many make it out to be.

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here because I always come to Rozy's defense. I am just really sick and tired of the numerous posters advocating that a 6-7 defenseman is an adequate replacement for Rozy. I am also sick and tired of the Heatley proposals. Please, make it stop...

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Bouillon is someone the Rangers have been lacking. He is a tuff guy that hits to hurt and never backs down. He would be a huge step in the right direction, With BrASH ,Dubi , Avery , Callahan and Bouillon this team could forecheck and hit with any team in the East.

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Because of Bouillon's style of play and heart he is oft-injured. If he's not playing tough he is useless. And if he's playing tough he's injured. Its a catch 22 with the guy.
They didn't play the same position, but that's the perfect description of George McPhee, for those who remember.

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I'm on the Bouillon bandwagon, not bad for a 3rd pairing guy and I'm a big proponent of carrying 7 defenseman so no one gets too complacent.

However, the fact that some people believe Bouillon can replace Rozsival is just beyond me. Yes, he is painful to watch on the PP sometimes, but his defensive play is much better than many make it out to be.

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here because I always come to Rozy's defense. I am just really sick and tired of the numerous posters advocating that a 6-7 defenseman is an adequate replacement for Rozy. I am also sick and tired of the Heatley proposals. Please, make it stop...
if that is directed at me, let me say that cube would not replace rozy. rozys minutes would be replaced by gilroy as reddens new partner or by another fa dman whom we sign. imo, after last year, rozy has shown he doesnt belong on the pp so were really talking about replacing rozys total minutes minus pp time.

i am advocating moving rozy, not out of some personal vendetta but simply as a means to rid ourselves of an onerous contract for an average player and thus enable us to improve our team by signing an impact centerman or an additional goal scorer.

as for dany heatley, this team right now is a playoff team, but an injury away from disaster. adding heater to the mix would make us a legit threat in the conference and give us some scoring protection if gaby goes down for 20 games.

if we could somehow trade for heater by moving say...rozy, higgins and mcdonough and manage to keep dubinsky- we would have no choice here as we have no one else to play with gaborik, i would do that in a heartbeat.

didnt it ever occur to you that the reason we dont have heatley now is our reluctance to include dubinsky in that deal yet we were supposedly committed to moving rozy in that same deal.

slats had him traded until ott demanded dubi last minute. if he was so valuable and important, he would not have been included in that deal. looks to me like slats thinks this team can win without rozy.

deal with it.

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