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Do you watch hockey in HD or SD?

View Poll Results: Which one?
SD 27 24.11%
HD 70 62.50%
Both 15 13.39%
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08-11-2009, 11:03 AM
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Angel Dust in HD?
Sorry, that was a typo. But the colours are great, even on the B&W set.

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08-11-2009, 11:07 AM
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I watch all the games in HD. It is the greatest thing to happen to hockey since Mario. Not to be snobby about it but the sound and picture quality is just so much better, it's not worth breaking the bank for but if you have the means I highly recommend it.

My cousin came over last year for the playoffs and said he doesn't get all the hype about HD, that it doesn't look that much better. I just switched the channel between the SD and HD and he changed his mind pretty quickly.

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08-11-2009, 11:10 AM
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hdtv is nice

however, if you have a plasma screen smaller than...30 inches, it's not really worth it, the image isnt worth the bucks..

if you buy an ''old'' tube tv around 900 nowadays for a 50 plus inch with normal cable, you will have as much of a nice image, IF NOT BETTER (depends on the tv) than an HD tv with HD feed which is also 50 inch...

only downsize is that the old tube 50 inch tv is much more heavy to move (but who cares it's not like you move it each day) but it takes a hell alot of space....

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08-11-2009, 11:29 AM
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When HD is available I watch it that way. so you almost have to say both

unfortunately some Saturday CBC broadcasts outside Toronto are not HD, so a lot of times the Habs are SD

On the centre-ice package some feeds are HD and I watch those feeds if possible. A lot of the time despite the fact that HD feeds are possible from Empire NESN or MSG etc, there is some stupid rule that only allows the actual subscribers to those feeds to get the HD, so centre ice has to use SD for those

Some SD feeds are terrible on an HD tv. Very irritating

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08-11-2009, 11:34 AM
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hahah its ok that you don't have an hdtv, but you don't need to justify your reasoning by saying its not that much of a big difference. I guess you keep trying to convince yourself of that so you don't have to spend the $$$ to upgrade, but it is a HUGE difference!
Thank you very much. There is a difference.

I went from a high quality 36" Sony Wega XBR with 1080i capable to a full HD Samsung 46" and the difference is instantly visible. One one occasion, I was actually able to see Carbonneau's stubble...and on any HD game, I can see the grooves left on the ice by skates - you can't see that in SD (and I had an excellent TV on SD)

Having said all that, there are more important things in life than SD/HD and our toys.

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08-11-2009, 11:46 AM
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I just moved in with the gf and we don't have cable, so it looks like I'll be watching most games over the internet this year, haha.

I voted both though since, last year, like many others, I couldn't get RDS on HD since I'm in Ontario and Rogers didn't have it.

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08-11-2009, 11:55 AM
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Thank you very much. There is a difference.

I went from a high quality 36" Sony Wega XBR with 1080i capable to a full HD Samsung 46" and the difference is instantly visible. One one occasion, I was actually able to see Carbonneau's stubble...and on any HD game, I can see the grooves left on the ice by skates - you can't see that in SD (and I had an excellent TV on SD)

Having said all that, there are more important things in life than SD/HD and our toys.
Habs hockey? Poutine? Unwanted hair removal? A clean bathroom?

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08-11-2009, 12:29 PM
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Between TSN HD (720p) and RDS HD (1080i), which one gives the better picture quality ?
I would imagine 720p would be better quality. It's better for gaming anyways.

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08-11-2009, 12:43 PM
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We got a 42 inch HDTV in November 07 and got the videotron HD box at the same time, so I watch 99% of hockey in HD. I'll watch a couple games a year on TSN or Sportsnet (don't get their HD channels).

When I'm at my girlfriend's chalet, I watch it on a approx. 130 inch screen with 7 speakers and a sub. The 1st time I went over, my jaw dropped to the floor haha!

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08-11-2009, 12:48 PM
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Once you go HD, you can't go back.

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08-11-2009, 12:57 PM
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Between TSN HD (720p) and RDS HD (1080i), which one gives the better picture quality ?
My understading is that it depends on what you have your set top box(stb) set to, what what your TV is set to.

For instance, if you have a 720p tv, and you set your stb to be in 1080i, it will cause a 720 signal to be converted from 720->1080->720. This can cause artifacting and motion blurr. And you can always set your stb to be in 'pass through' mode, which sometimes helps.

You essentially want your tv and stb to match the signal for best quality in most cases. And this depends on your tv size. 40in or smaller, and there is zero picture quality improvement from 720->1080. The only difference is price.

Edit: Found a good blurb to elaborate on 720 vs 1080i for you as well...

Some United States broadcasters use 720p60 as their primary high-definition format; others use the 1080i standard. While 720p presents a complete 720 line frame to the viewer between 24 to 60 times each second (depending on the format), 1080i presents the picture as 50 or 60 partial 540 line "fields" (24 complete 1080-line fields, or "24p" is included in the ATSC standard though) which the human eye or a deinterlacer built into the display device must visually and temporally combine to build a 1080 line picture. The main tradeoff between the two is that 1080i may show more detail than 720p for a stationary shot of a subject at the expense of introducing interlace artifacts from a motion of the camera (such as a pan) or motion of the subject. 720p is used by ABC and ESPN because the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports telecasts.


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SD since I have not gotten around to buy an HDTV but that should change soon as I plan on getting one before the end of the year.

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08-11-2009, 02:00 PM
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SD. HD things are simply too costly. I mean I bought a brand new regular 27" TV for 169$.

When HD receivers and HDTV will cost around the same, I might switch.

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Sony Bravia HD TV and home theatre, with Roger's HD + PVR receiver.

TSNHD
TSN2HD
SportsnetHD
CBCHD
RDSHD

It's good. It's real good

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08-11-2009, 02:48 PM
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I have CBC and TSN in HD but not RDS in HD

my RDS is only in SD.. ****

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all 82 mtl games in hd.....and pretty much all hockey in hd

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Even in HD, the picture quality varies from a sport to another:
From best to worse:

Football >> Baseball >>> Basketball > Hockey

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SD. HD things are simply too costly. I mean I bought a brand new regular 27" TV for 169$.

When HD receivers and HDTV will cost around the same, I might switch.
Cost ain't too to bad. I got a 40" 1080p Sony S series, sony blue ray player and rogers hdtv box for $1199. Still a lot more then an sdtv, but well worth it!
And the price has not dropped on them a bit since i got mine before last Christmas. So you'll probably be waiting 32 years before you can get that gear for $169.

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08-11-2009, 03:21 PM
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Wow @ the results!

I think this is a bit biased.

HD users are all pround and pompous. (I have a 42" Plasma Panasonic. watching Habs-hockey on it makes me cry. I never hesitated one second to subscribe to the full HD package, including "near heaven experience" Discovery HD.)

While most SD users will just skip this thread until they get to HD.

In reality I think the world is still 65 SD 35 HD...

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08-11-2009, 03:31 PM
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Even in HD, the picture quality varies from a sport to another:
From best to worse:

Football >> Baseball >>> Basketball > Hockey
I would argue HD has done more for hockey then the other sports.
Hockey in SD is just horrible to watch after having HD for the last few years
The game is so much faster then the other sports you mentioned that you (I) can really appreciate HD hockey vs. SD hockey.
Just a question for you though. My PQ on all sports is great in HD. Not sure I follow you in saying certain sports have a better PQ then others. Wouldn’t the PQ fall in the lap of the network showing the game and not the game itself?


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Even in HD, the picture quality varies from a sport to another:
From best to worse:

Football >> Baseball >>> Basketball > Hockey
I think I agree with this.

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I don't watch any TV except for hockey, so I think I'm going to spring for a season pass of RDS Zone De Match this year.

Waiting to see what RDS announces for this year, last year was an 80$ season pass, compared to the 80$/month charge to get RDS on a cable package locally.

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Even in HD, the picture quality varies from a sport to another:
From best to worse:

Football >> Tennis >> Baseball >>> Basketball >
Hockey
It looks awesome in HD

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I would argue HD has done more for hockey then the other sports.
Hockey in SD is just horrible to watch after having HD for the last few years
The game is so much faster then the other sports you mentioned that you (I) can really appreciate HD hockey vs. SD hockey.
Just a question for you though. My PQ on all sports is great in HD. Not sure I follow you in saying certain sports have a better PQ then others. Wouldn’t the PQ fall in the lap of the network showing the game and not the game itself?
I'd agree that HD will bring a lot of good to hockey, more than other sports. But that's not my point in my previous post where I want to say that the picture quality of HD hockey is not as good as other sports.

The bigger the TV, the more differences between channels/sports you will notice. I find myself lucky to have a 60" TV, so I can clearly see the differences. Unfortunately, the PQ of hockey is way inferior to football and baseball.

Everytimes I watch football on Amercian channels or baseball on Sportsnet, I'm always jealous, envying them. I wish one day hockey can match their PQ.

Facts that explain why hockey PQ is inferior to other sports:
- fast action
- the white of the ice
- the camera and equipment ??? I'm just guessing. Football and baseball have HD at least 2 years before hockey. And we may lag in technology ?


The good news ? Hockey PQ can be greatly improved.

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Once you go HD, you can't go back.

Exactly HD is like putting a steak on the charcoal and grilling in before you eat it. SD is like putting the steak on a frying pan and frying it before you eat it.

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