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High-scorers/danglers in Junior that turned into grinders at the NHL level

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08-13-2009, 06:09 AM
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Let's add Boyd Deveraux.

*sigh*

So many Oilers...
Why stop at that?

Kirk Maltby scored 50 goals and 91 points and was a PPG player in junior, he has never scored more than 14 goals in the NHL.

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08-13-2009, 06:19 AM
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You can see the skill with guys like Cleary, Sillinger, Helm, Tucker, and Maltby (especially Sillinger - since when was he a grinder?).

I swear, the Isles have always seemed to be full of guys like this... Aaron Asham, Trent Hunter, Jon Sim, Andy Hilbert (major college star), Sean Bates (college star)... on and on...

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His WHL numbers amounted to 11G-53pts in 211GP..I wonder what intrigued them..Even 2way players are supposed to have decent offensive upside..
Did he come up as a defenseman?

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Yanic Perreault - Big time junior scorer and put up 100 points in the AHL was probably the best Faceoff guy in the NHL for a long long time

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=4250

Darcy Tucker - Another big time junior scorer. Ultimate team guy

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=14475

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I think Mike Peca is probably the penultimate example of this.

Top scoring forward for the 67's (113 PTS in 55 GP, 102 PTS in 55 GP), followed by a career as a stellar defensive player.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=4207

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Let's add Boyd Deveraux.

*sigh*

So many Oilers...
Steve Kelly? (drafted before Shane Doan and Jarome Iginla...yikes)

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Jordin Tootoo - lead the Brandon Wheat Kings in scoring in both 2001-02 and 2002-03 (tied), but has found his niche in the NHL as a grinder/pest.

http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=50703

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What about Wade Belak? He actually was a grinder in the minors (18 points was his best i think) but he got drafted 12th overall somehow.... wtf lol
Belak was drafted so high, because back then teams put a premium on size. He was projected to be similar (though I'm not sure he ever showed it) to someone like a Mike Komisarek, a big robust hitter who dominated his own zone.

As for the Scott Parker selection, Colorado had a bunch of picks in the 1st round that year, and since they'd already addressed their other needs with previous picks (Tanguay, Skoula, Regehr), they used their final pick to get the best "enforcer" in the draft.

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I think Mike Peca is probably the penultimate example of this.

Top scoring forward for the 67's (113 PTS in 55 GP, 102 PTS in 55 GP), followed by a career as a stellar defensive player.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=4207
So who's number one then?

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Not as extreme as an example, but Vaclav Varada had an 88 and an 85 point season in the WHL and scored 3 goals in 5 games in the AHL [along with 30 in 45 the next season with Rochester] before carving out a niche as wingman to Mike Peca, opposite Dixon Ward.

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What about Wade Belak? He actually was a grinder in the minors (18 points was his best i think) but he got drafted 12th overall somehow.... wtf lol
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His WHL numbers amounted to 11G-53pts in 211GP..I wonder what intrigued them..Even 2way players are supposed to have decent offensive upside..


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Dan Cleary ...
Very first name that came to my mind. Next one was Jamie Lundmark. Manny Malhotra also qualifies, I'm sure.

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Very first name that came to my mind. Next one was Jamie Lundmark. Manny Malhotra also qualifies, I'm sure.
Malhotra never scored a ton in juniors. Not even a point per game. He was drafted that high for some notion that he'd be a gritty team leader and maybe the Rangers thought he'd develop a little more offense, but I still think they took him way too high

His best juniors season was 51 points in 57 games.

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08-13-2009, 02:29 PM
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Wes Walz?

Undersized guy who put up 104 points in 63 WHL games his draft year, went in the 3rd round because he was a small offensive guy, then put up 140 pts, 54 goals in 56 games in the WHL the next year. He then ended up not sticking in the NHL until he came back from Europe as a defensive specialist.

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08-13-2009, 03:13 PM
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Andy Hilbert had 64 pts in 42 games at Michigan his last season...then 79 pts in 79 games in the AHL for Providence his last season in the AHL...has 104 pts in 303 games now...and his hands have turned to stone

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08-13-2009, 03:30 PM
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Nick Kypreos

Last 3 seasons with North Bay he played 174 games and scored 152 goals.

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08-13-2009, 05:35 PM
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Brouwer could be a future contender for this. Over a hundred points in his last year in the WHL and 45 and 35 goal seasons in the AHL. He is still relatively young at 24 but so far his scoring touch doesn't seem to have translated to the NHL level.

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Not a dangler, but John Madden put up good numbers in college and never got drafted.

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08-13-2009, 05:55 PM
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Tim Taylor scored at a very good clip in juniors but was known more for his defensive play during his NHL career. Stephane Yelle had a 104 point season in the OHL.

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wade belak was drafted as a defenceman.

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There are tons of guys that could fit in this category. But the first one that popped into my head was Brad May. He put up 160 points in his last 95 junior games, plus 47 in 25 playoff games.

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