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08-13-2009, 06:04 AM
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Idea : could Martin put Sergei Kostsitsyn with Gionta and Gomez ?

I was thinking about the line that Sergei was on in the juniors, with Kane, and all the success they had. Their play remind me of Gionta and Gomez in terms of speed and skills. Following that though, I'm wondering if S-Kost-Gomez-Gionta, toghether, could be a possible combination.

It could be possible, I already can see them flying all over the defense, deking, passing, shooting and scoring with the deflections. On top of that, Gomez and Gionta and supposed to be ok on defense, so it would be a responsible, altough small line. Moreover, I think that a guy like Gionta could be a good role model for Kost. That line would also give us a pretty balanced second line, with Andrei Kost feeding Camalleri. And on the powerplay, I'd play Camalleri instead of S Kost, of course.

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whoever plays on that left wing will have to be bigger and keep ,up with the pace. Look at the success of their duo back in NJ. they had ELias as the filler. S kost would be good, but that spot should be Akost, without a doubt. Finishing ability and playmaking skills as well..

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Any combo can be possible right now. We'll have to wait and see the results on ice,but that line doesnt look bad at all that's for sure.

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I don't think SK fits the bill, SK's main skill is his play making abilities and vision, which Gomez already brings on that unit. IMO, that duo needs a big body presence in front of the net and someone who can go fight for loose pucks in the corners. I would think that AK or Lats would be a better fit. I'd just love to see Max Pac with the 2 of them but i think he needs one more year in the AHL...

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whoever plays on that left wing will have to be bigger and keep ,up with the pace. Look at the success of their duo back in NJ. they had ELias as the filler. S kost would be good, but that spot should be Akost, without a doubt. Finishing ability and playmaking skills as well..
The thing is that Andrei has the ability to carry a line, and that's just what Plekanek and Camalleri need. Also, I think that Sergei could learn a lot from Gionta. He could be a sort of mentor, helping him to improve, as Sergei seems to play a similar style of hockey, when he's on his game.

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The thing is that Andrei has the ability to carry a line, and that's just what Plekanek and Camalleri need. Also, I think that Sergei could learn a lot from Gionta. He could be a sort of mentor, helping him to improve, as Sergei seems to play a similar style of hockey, when he's on his game.
No reason Gio can't still be a mentor, even if they're not on the same line regularly. I'm sure a lot of combos will be tried out, and I do think at worst Sergei will be on the 2nd line by the end of the year and make a lot of haters eat their hats.

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Honestly at this point i think that any one of the following is in the running to play LW on that line:

A. Kostitsyn
S. Kostitsyn
Latendresse
Pacioretty
Cammalleri

I know Martin said he wants more size on that line, but if one of the smaller guys gets a few shifts and really clicks with Gomez & Gionta you dont think he will ride it out?

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Lately I've been thinking Andrei with Gomez and Gionta, and Sergei with Cammalleri and Pleks. I think Pacioretty will start in Hamilton and Lats might not keep up with Gomez and Gionta/ has chemistry with Lapierre..

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The thing is Martin said he wanted size on that line so it's pretty much AKost that will be filling that spot
I'm hoping to see SKost on the 2nd line with cammy and pleks,patches will start in Hamilton imo lats is way too slow to keep up with the first 2lines and neways he did real well playing with laps and moen will be completing that third line so IMO here's my line ups for 09-10

Akost-Gomez-Gionta
Cammy-Pleks-SKost
Lats-Laps-Moen
Stewart-Metro-BGL
D'agostini

Markov-Mara
Spacek-Hammer
Gill-Gorges
O'byrne

Powerplay 1

Cammy-Gomez-Gionta
Markov-Spacek

Powerplay 2

AKost-Pleks-SKost
Hammer-Mara

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I know Martin said he wants some size on all his lines but I can't not see the top line being:
cammy-gomez-gionta at least to start the season.
Cammy is a top line player and signed because ofthe prospect of playing with gomez who'd male the perfect set up man for him.
If he didn't play on that line, I can't see S. Kosty playing there in lieu of other players that are bigger and higher up on the depth chart IMO.

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Sergei will be put in Hamilton where he belongs.

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I hope Cammaleri will be on the top line.

Cammaleri - Gomez - Gionta
AK - PLekanec - SK
Lats - Laps - Moen
Stewart - Metro(or Chip) - Laraque

Markov - Gorges (Gorges played great with Markov last year)
Spacek - Mara
Gill - Hamrlik (not sure about this duo... too slow?)

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Sergei will be put in Hamilton where he belongs.
I'm sure at the start of last year you didn't think he belonged in Hamilton.I think he can play in this league full time and I hope he worked hard this off season and changed his attitude cause he's got all the tools in the world to help this team out

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I'm sure at the start of last year you didn't think he belonged in Hamilton.I think he can play in this league full time and I hope he worked hard this off season and changed his attitude cause he's got all the tools in the world to help this team out
Exactly. Sergei will for sure bounce back.

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I'm sure at the start of last year you didn't think he belonged in Hamilton.I think he can play in this league full time and I hope he worked hard this off season and changed his attitude cause he's got all the tools in the world to help this team out
Then I saw him play.

Habs have better rookie wingers, Dagger & Patches. Sergei better have been born again and had a massive attitude re-adjustment, cuz he's gonna be shipped out real fast if he's back loafing, brooding and playing his weaksauce perimeter BS.

Frankly I doubt he's changed too much, and I doubt he'll start the season in the NHL. I hope the habs dump him + plekanec for a real 2nd line centre.

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Then I saw him play.

Habs have better rookie wingers, Dagger & Patches. Sergei better have been born again and had a massive attitude re-adjustment, cuz he's gonna be shipped out real fast if he's back loafing, brooding and playing his weaksauce perimeter BS.

Frankly I doubt he's changed too much, and I doubt he'll start the season in the NHL. I hope the habs dump him + plekanec for a real 2nd line centre.
Do you ever bounced back from mistakes ?

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Then I saw him play.

Habs have better rookie wingers, Dagger & Patches. Sergei better have been born again and had a massive attitude re-adjustment, cuz he's gonna be shipped out real fast if he's back loafing, brooding and playing his weaksauce perimeter BS.

Frankly I doubt he's changed too much, and I doubt he'll start the season in the NHL. I hope the habs dump him + plekanec for a real 2nd line centre.
Uhm, his brother changed a lot between the last two seasons. Whose to say he won't? I think Sergei comes back with something to prove and having bulked up a bit, that's just me tho.

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I'd rather put another guy who will shoot the puck with Gomez. Maybe Andrei Kostitsyn

You could put Sergei on the 2nd line with 2 other players that will shoot the puck - Pleks and Cam.

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Sergei on the second line makes that line too weak. The Kostsitsyn Bros on the same line make it too weak as well. That's the problem. That's why I think Sergei should play with Gomez and Gionta. About Camalleri, if he plays on the pp with Gomez, since he's a powerplay specialist, it would still be like playing with Gomez.

SKost-Gomez-Gionta
Camalleri-Plekanek-AKost
Latendresse-Lapierre-Pacioretti
Stewart-Metro-Moen

And with the D, I'd really like to see Weber has a 7th d-man, used on the powerplay and when we need offense.

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Putting Kostitsyn with Gomez and Gionta makes little sense. Gomez doesn't really need playmakers on his line, he needs guys who can score. That means Cammalleri, A. Kostitsyn or Latendresse. Of course, a guy who can do both would be even better, but he needs guys who have a goal scorer's mentality.

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Habs have better rookie wingers, Dagger & Patches.
Even if he wasn't trying, Kostitsyn was better than those two last year. Offensively, he was the best of the three. Now, D'Agostini was about as good, but Kostitsyn was so much better defensively - not that Kostitsyn was great, D'Agostini was just awful - that it didn't matter. Pacioretty was as good or better defensively, but he wasn't close to Kostitsyn offensively. Unlike the other two, Kostitsyn was obviously not really trying... I can just imagine how much better than those two he will be if he actually decides to show up.

Anyway, Sergei will be fine. He played poorly in a season during which most players, especially the younger players, played below their potential. He will probably bounce back.

P.S: I have to congratulate you. You're one of the rare people to have called Pacioretty by his actual nickname instead of that stupid MaxPac thing.


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I was thinking about the line that Sergei was on in the juniors, with Kane, and all the success they had. Their play remind me of Gionta and Gomez in terms of speed and skills. Following that though, I'm wondering if S-Kost-Gomez-Gionta, toghether, could be a possible combination.

It could be possible, I already can see them flying all over the defense, deking, passing, shooting and scoring with the deflections. On top of that, Gomez and Gionta and supposed to be ok on defense, so it would be a responsible, altough small line. Moreover, I think that a guy like Gionta could be a good role model for Kost. That line would also give us a pretty balanced second line, with Andrei Kost feeding Camalleri. And on the powerplay, I'd play Camalleri instead of S Kost, of course.
He could, but it would be much more wiser to keep SK and Gomez on two different lines. Gomez is already the playmaker on his line. SK would be a better fit on a line with Lapierre IMO, where he would be the playmaking guy. If Gomez and Gionta play together, then the line needs a checking winger like Latendresse or Pacioretty.

So many combos possible at this point. A guy like D'Agostini could be a great fit for Gomez too. Still, since SK is the center of this thread, I expect him to bounce back, and I think he should be first playing with Lapierre on his LW, with either Pacioretti, D'Agostini or Latendresse on the other wing.

Playmakers:
Gomez, Plekanec, Sergei Kostitsyn

Snipers:
Cammalleri, Andrei Kostitsyn, Gionta, D'Agostini

Checkers:
Latendresse, Pacioretti, Lapierre

My top three lines would be made of one player of each of these categories.

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It would be hit or miss.

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for me its either a.kostitsyn or lats who's going to play with gomez and gionta



or maybe frolov

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make a lot of haters eat their hats.
I don't think there are very many haters. He's been consistently rated average to above-average by just about everyone around here...

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The thing is Martin said he wanted size on that line so it's pretty much AKost that will be filling that spot
I'm hoping to see SKost on the 2nd line with cammy and pleks,patches will start in Hamilton imo lats is way too slow to keep up with the first 2lines and neways he did real well playing with laps and moen will be completing that third line so IMO here's my line ups for 09-10

Akost-Gomez-Gionta
Cammy-Pleks-SKost
Lats-Laps-Moen
Stewart-Metro-BGL
D'agostini

Markov-Mara
Spacek-Hammer
Gill-Gorges
O'byrne

Powerplay 1

Cammy-Gomez-Gionta
Markov-Spacek

Powerplay 2

AKost-Pleks-SKost
Hammer-Mara

My exact lineup

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