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08-14-2009, 01:51 PM
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what is with these 1 year contracts
What do you want to do, sign fringe NHLers to multi year contracts and then have to buy them out? With all of our UFA signings this year, and the Cap situation next year, we can't afford to give these guys raises. The market dicates that they will get a small raise in multi year deals for RFA's, we simply can't afford it for guys who haven't proven themselves.

More importantly, these guys are no where near Michael Ryder calibre so that is a terrible comparison.

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Wow. Greatest day of my life!
Are you dagostini? because if not your life sucks lol

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what

nobody signed him to an offer sheet?

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No it's cuz gainey likes being busy in the offseason

now that everyone is signed let the season begin

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Are you dagostini? because if not your life sucks lol
Or your sarcasm detector sucks.

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What do you want to do, sign fringe NHLers to multi year contracts and then have to buy them out? With all of our UFA signings this year, and the Cap situation next year, we can't afford to give these guys raises. The market dicates that they will get a small raise in multi year deals for RFA's, we simply can't afford it for guys who haven't proven themselves.

More importantly, these guys are no where near Michael Ryder calibre so that is a terrible comparison.
Exactly - Stewart, Chip, and D'agostini haven't even established full-time spots on the team. These guys aren't exactly negotiating from a position of power to demand multi-year contracts. They got one year deals because that's what they deserve. In fact, they should be happy they got one-way deals. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these players doesn't get qualified at the end of the year.

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08-14-2009, 02:11 PM
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What do you want to do, sign fringe NHLers to multi year contracts and then have to buy them out? With all of our UFA signings this year, and the Cap situation next year, we can't afford to give these guys raises. The market dicates that they will get a small raise in multi year deals for RFA's, we simply can't afford it for guys who haven't proven themselves.

More importantly, these guys are no where near Michael Ryder calibre so that is a terrible comparison.
Bingo! We're paying them close to league minimum for one year and we still own their NHL rights next offseason. I don't get why anyone wants us to sign these fringe NHLers for longer term before they prove themselves. If they end up stinking, we'd be stuck with their multi-year contracts against the cap. Good job Bob!

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Or your sarcasm detector sucks.
Or that.. man my sarcasm detector is failing me lately

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Am I the only one who liked what he saw from D'Agostini last year? Yes, he went on a tear and slowed down drastically, but he did show that he can score goals, and while stopping short from calling him a physical force, he also didn't shy away out there. I mean we keep on talking about the usual suspects but rarely does D'Agostini get a second thought.

I like this signing and I have him penciled in as one player who could surprise this season, given the chance.

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In fact, they should be happy they got one-way deals.
Actually, Stewart didn't get one and neither did D'Ago according to RDS.

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Actually, Stewart didn't get one and neither did D'Ago according to RDS.
Don't know about D'ago but Capgeek has Stewart on a two-way FWIW.

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Don't know about D'ago but Capgeek has Stewart on a two-way FWIW.
RDS says D'Ago is also on a 2-way deal.

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/280375.html

"Il s'agit d'un pacte à deux volets."

Isn't D'Ags waiver eligible as of camp this year? I highly highly highly doubt he could clear, so I hope they don't get any funny ideas.

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Yeah I actually completely misread what Marc was saying. I thought he was saying Stewart and D'ago didn't get two-way deals. My bad

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Am I the only one who liked what he saw from D'Agostini last year? Yes, he went on a tear and slowed down drastically, but he did show that he can score goals, and while stopping short from calling him a physical force, he also didn't shy away out there. I mean we keep on talking about the usual suspects but rarely does D'Agostini get a second thought.

I like this signing and I have him penciled in as one player who could surprise this season, given the chance.
I agree. D'Ago has a quick release and could be a 25-30 goal scorer in the near future. He is rugged enough to handle himself, he skates well, and has good hockey sense. The aspect of his game needing the most work is his defensive zone play.

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Am I the only one who liked what he saw from D'Agostini last year? Yes, he went on a tear and slowed down drastically, but he did show that he can score goals, and while stopping short from calling him a physical force, he also didn't shy away out there. I mean we keep on talking about the usual suspects but rarely does D'Agostini get a second thought.

I like this signing and I have him penciled in as one player who could surprise this season, given the chance.
I too was very impressed with D'Agostini when he was called up. He was speedy, created some scoring chances, very effective. But then, he disappeared. Don't know what happened. Was it a fluke? He'll have a chance to show his stuff again but unless he can be as impressive as he was early on last season, I don't see him in the line up regularly.

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Well, he could turn out to be a Jeremy Williams or a Michael Ryder.

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This pleases me, this the day of my birthday.

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Am I the only one who liked what he saw from D'Agostini last year? Yes, he went on a tear and slowed down drastically, but he did show that he can score goals, and while stopping short from calling him a physical force, he also didn't shy away out there. I mean we keep on talking about the usual suspects but rarely does D'Agostini get a second thought.

I like this signing and I have him penciled in as one player who could surprise this season, given the chance.
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I agree. D'Ago has a quick release and could be a 25-30 goal scorer in the near future. He is rugged enough to handle himself, he skates well, and has good hockey sense. The aspect of his game needing the most work is his defensive zone play.
I saw every shift of all but a handful of Habs games last year (missed a few when I was at the WJC) but in terms of physicality, I watched a different Matt D'Agostini than the one you guys are talking about. I found he went hard to the net his first few games (when he went on his goal scoring run) but something happened after that run because I thought he was soft as tissue paper after that. I found he shied away from all the traffic areas and even looked scared out there. I believe he has impressive goal scoring touch and instincts but he's going to have be far more driven and compete harder on the ice or he'll be a complete liability.

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Glad it's two way, and glad it's only one year. He's not proven enough to get a multi years deal. And for those wondering why only one year, keep in mind that one year contract cost less. Take Stewart...he signed for the league minimum...or close to it. More years on his contract would have mean a bigger cap hit.

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I don't think one-way vs two-way makes much of a difference, for a team as wealthy as the Habs. If they want to demote a player, and aren't scared of losing him on waivers, I imagine they'll do it, regardless of whether they have to pay him an NHL salary in the minors.

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Or your sarcasm detector sucks.
At least yours is ok.

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how does the D'Agostini signing affect Chris Chelios?

Matt D'Agostini takes a shot at Jose Theodore


http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/1...n?size=404x272


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Matt D'Agostini takes a shot at Jose Theodore


http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/1...n?size=404x272
IT'S GETTING OLD QUICKLY!

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IT'S GETTING OLD QUICKLY!
why do they keep taking shots ?

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Matt D'Agostini takes a shot at Jose Theodore


http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/1...n?size=404x272
It's even less funny since it's not even Theodore...

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