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09-18-2009, 08:47 PM
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For Kessel? Dude, you throw those kinds of picks for elite talent, not a guy who has one 35 goal season under his belt and is a bona fide prima dona. I guess this means the Leafs re-build is over.
Burke once again proves why he is one of the most overrated GMs in sports. Bruins win this deal hands down and get rid of a possible cancer on top of it.

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09-18-2009, 08:57 PM
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Phil Kessel for Brayden Schenn... we know how badly Leafs fans want him...

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To me, Boston makes out like a bandit.

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I don't understand this.....It would have taken less picks to sign him to an offer sheet.

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09-18-2009, 09:14 PM
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I don't understand this.....It would have taken less picks to sign him to an offer sheet.
Burke is overrated.

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I'm more surprised by the contract then I am by the picks given up.

Risky move IMO.

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Burke, quit guzzling down that cheap cough syrup

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Burke is overrated.
I agree.

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09-18-2009, 09:39 PM
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I'm more surprised by the contract then I am by the picks given up.

Risky move IMO.
Not me....most people expected Kessel to get a contract in that range. But, for a team that has had top 10 picks in the last 2 years to give up their next two 1st round picks is huge!

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09-18-2009, 10:01 PM
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Sounds like a lot for Matt Kessel.


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Haha yea I caught that earlier too. Don't know how to screen cap. on a mac.

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what does this do to frolov's contract for next year if he pots 35 this season?

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09-18-2009, 11:45 PM
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The song goes,

"To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
no oh no not me,
I did it my way..."

I bet Toronto's general manager Brian Burke is a Frank Sinatra fan and "my way" isn't just one of his favorite songs but his mantra or, better written, his "way."
For the rest of the article, click on the link to http://www.lakingsnews.com


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09-19-2009, 12:37 AM
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Some of you may be drinking too much of what Lombardi sometimes serves.
I honestly didn't read the rest of your post, Zad, but the part that says "you may be drinking too much"... I fall into that.

Also, 2 1sts and a 2nd? That's a bit much, IMO. Especially when the Leafs picks should be decent.

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what does this do to frolov's contract for next year if he pots 35 this season?
I'd pay Frolov Kessel's contract.

On the UFA market.

Burke essentially payed UFA price for an RFA player, that's what makes it too much for me.

Regardless of this parade of circus freak trades and signings this off-season, I still see no reason why Frolov wouldn't sign a 5 year contract for a little less of a cap hit. Maybe 23-24million over 5 years. That should still get it done.

Kessel clearly cares VERY much about the dinero. Frolov has never given any indication that he cares half that much about his paycheck.

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Boston loses because it's a player they drafted and developed and he left/wanted out/couldn't be signed/etc.. Ultimately, the scouts rolled the dice and lost. What they received from Toronto in terms of picks alone does soften the blow, but still, this guy should still be with the Bruins and ultimately it's a waste of a pick and 3 years of development effort of a top player who is now gone.

I remember reading this blog article 3 years ago. I went back to it tonight and read it again. http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/2006/07/e...ine-wasnt.html

It's Brian Burke's shotgun rebuild. I'm wondering where the gun is pointed now.

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Hopefully one of these top players will come available that doesn't have some big glaring issue that turns off Dean.

Great, we got Gauthier for a steal because of the cap. Quincey too.

Can we please be the next team to snag a player that should never have been available if not for the cap?

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Not me....most people expected Kessel to get a contract in that range. But, for a team that has had top 10 picks in the last 2 years to give up their next two 1st round picks is huge!
This. So this. Boston has the chance to make out in spades after all is said and done.

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I don't understand this.....It would have taken less picks to sign him to an offer sheet.
Welcome to the world of Brian Burke. He usually drafts so poorly that picks don't have all that much value for him as they would another GM.

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what does this do to frolov's contract for next year if he pots 35 this season?
I don't think we will get 35 out of a third line Frolov depending on how Moller/Purcell handle the second line left wing job... But Kessel's contract is probably the very contract Frolov deserves and Lombardi is unwilling to pay unless Frolov scores 40 goals on the third line.

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I have mixed feelings about this deal...if what Johnson says is true about Kessell, I don't know why the Leafs would want him around there young guys....

Second, two 1st's is a lot to give up, but Toronton does not have a marquee forward...they don't have a Kopitar or Brown....they have Luke Schenn and that is pretty much it...All those college kids are unproven, the rest of the Leafs forwards are more like 3rd liners on anyone else's team except maybe Blake and Poni.....Grabovsky is still unproven....

So now they have Kadri, Kessell, and Schenn.....They might be able to package some players to get one of those first back...especially a D, which they have a lot of.

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I don't think we will get 35 out of a third line Frolov depending on how Moller/Purcell handle the second line left wing job... But Kessel's contract is probably the very contract Frolov deserves and Lombardi is unwilling to pay unless Frolov scores 40 goals on the third line.
You can't really say he is unwilling to pay Frolov that kind of money, I mean do you know this for a fact? Maybe he's unwilling to pay that much for a reason.

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You can't really say he is unwilling to pay Frolov that kind of money, I mean do you know this for a fact? Maybe he's unwilling to pay that much for a reason.
I can say that all I want till he signs him to a contract And, of course, if he doesn't pay him, there will be a reason behind it - that is the nature of making decisions, at least, I hope so for this organization...

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I can say that all I want till he signs him to a contract And, of course, if he doesn't pay him, there will be a reason behind it - that is the nature of making decisions, at least, I hope so for this organization...
what?

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what?
Reasons are why people do things. Only maybe not. Hopefully Lombardi has reasons. He does things. We can only assume there are reasons. That is nature of deciding. He hopes. Frolov is a nature, and Lombardi is a reason. Or Lombardi is in his nature a reason and Frolov is a hopeful.

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