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08-19-2009, 02:40 PM
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Big Apple Busts includes Pavel Bure

NY Post writer Justin Terranova also writes a blog for the website

The topic is who are the five biggest sports busts in NY sports this decade. Brett Favre is on the list and the reason why the list was compiled.

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5. Pavel Bure -- The Rangers traded for the Russian Rocket with hopes he could regain his scoring touch at the Garden, which he did when he was healthy enough to be on the ice. But Bure spent most of his time with the Blueshirts on the bench because of knee injuries.

The Rangers dealt three draft picks and two undistinguished players (Igor Ulanov and Flip Novak) to the Panthers for Bure during the 2001-'02 season. In his next and last season in the NHL, Bure was limited to 39 games. In his brief Rangers run, Bure totaled 51 points in 50 games.

The Rangers finished fourth in the Atlantic Division both years and failed to make the playoffs.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/backp...ple_busts.html

This was the actual trade

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Bure, who turns 31 on March 31, was acquired by the Rangers from the Florida Panthers for defencemen Filip Novak and Igor Ulanov, a first-round pick and switch of second-rounders in 2002 plus a fourth-rounder in 2003.
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Bure is slated to earn $10 million US the next two seasons and $11 million US in 2004-05.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2002/...ure020318.html

That was the last trade Sather made where he gave up draft picks/prospects for a big name player. He got burned badly.

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08-19-2009, 02:44 PM
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Don't think he got burned badly. He lost because Bure's career ended, but Pavel was a point per game player here.

The Rangers also gave up nothing with Ulanov and Novak. The first round pick was the only thing.

In terms of biggest big apple busts, this one would not be on my list.

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He gave up draft picks in a ****** draft year and got the most electrifying player in NHL history.

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I'd put half of the pitchers the Yankees signed recently on that list. Sam Cowart sucked... Oliver Perez is looking terrible, but he might not qualify since he was good before with the Mets... Everyone the Knicks have signed in the past 5 years... There are tons.

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Bure was great when he played. Not his fault he got hurt.

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How the hell is that one of the biggest Busts? We gave a first round pick, a defenseman on the decline, and a bust prospect.

It sucks he got injured and had to retire but it happens. Certainly not the biggest Apple Busts.

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Bure was great when he played. Not his fault he got hurt.
It wasn't his fault he got hurt. But there were injury concerns when the trade was made.

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Sather pissed away how many millions on Bure's salary? There was no cap but the guy never played.

Some good players went after the 1st round pick traded to Florida.

Ballard
Semin
Higgins
Grebeshkov
Babchuk
Steen
Ward


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The biggest bust in New York is the New York Post

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Sather pissed away how many millions on Bure's salary? There was no cap but the guy never played.

Some good players went after the 1st round pick traded to Florida.

Ballard
Semin
Higgins
Grebeshkov
Babchuk
Steen
Ward

Perfect, we got him

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How the hell is that one of the biggest Busts? We gave a first round pick, a defenseman on the decline, and a bust prospect.

It sucks he got injured and had to retire but it happens. Certainly not the biggest Apple Busts.
Bure was already playing with two bad knees when Sather acquired him.

Two ACL surgeries.

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Bure was already playing with two bad knees when Sather acquired him.

Two ACL surgeries.
Don't get me wrong, it obviously turned out bad, but it was high risk/high reward, without giving up much (since there was no cap then).

But I think calling it one of the top 5 biggest busts in all the major teams in NYC is quite the stretch.

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wasn't the ACL that got him though...

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Mark Messier is the biggest bust for the last 10 years in NY as far as hockey is concerned... Yashin is a second. Holik - 3rd.

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How was Carl Pavano not #1 through 5?

Pavel Bure was the only bright spot during those two miserable seasons. I would still make that trade again in my sleep.

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erm...Luc Robitaille anyone?

We gave up a superstar defenseman in Zubov and got nothing but a disappointment.

This writer needs his balls cut off.

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The biggest bust in New York is the New York Post
More likely it would be an employee at Flashdancers.

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wasn't the ACL that got him though...
He had zero cartilage left in one of his knees from all of his knee surgeries. Bone on bone.


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Yeah, cartilage isn't the ACL though. His ACL's were fine, but he had no meniscus left anymore because it kept getting torn, then they have to cut pieces of it out, etc

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LOL Bure a bust? What a joke. We knew what we were getting when we got him. It's not like he came here fully healthy and stunk it up. We got him injured.

Lame.

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depends on how you're defining "bust". He was a bust trade in terms of he didn't last long and didn't help the Rangers make the playoffs, but as a player, he pretty much held up his end of the bargain.

Or in other words, the trade was the bust, not the player

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As a yankee fan too.. Pavano Irabu Kevin Brown... Three worst signins ever in NY sports. Add Kenny Rogers etc.. Bure not even close to being on this list.

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What? LOL This was the best trade Sather ever made, and this is coming from someone who almost never supports the trading of draft picks and hates Sather's guts. That was an excellent trade, and well worth the risk. Bure was phenomenal before he got hurt, and if he had stayed healthy, the team's entire fortune might have changed. They would have had one of the greatest goal scorers in the history of hockey.

Besides, that injury was really just a dirty knee on knee hit by Curtis Brown.

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How was Carl Pavano not #1 through 5?
My thoughts exactly. Kei Igawa gets an honorable mention.

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What? LOL This was the best trade Sather ever made.
Jaromir Jagr?

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