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08-19-2009, 08:58 PM
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Burke to Gomez: If you don't crack the top 6, no team USA

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=288201

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It's because he doesn't really contribute to the team if it's not offensive.

Brian Burke's teams are built like this...

Top 6 forwards - SKILL
Bottom 6 forwards - GRIT

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It's because he doesn't really contribute to the team if it's not offensive.

Brian Burke's teams are built like this...

Top 6 forwards - SKILL
Bottom 6 forwards - GRIT
Burke is pissed that he has no Europeans to trade away for team USA.

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He's the best center out there anyway...

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It's because he doesn't really contribute to the team if it's not offensive.

Brian Burke's teams are built like this...

Top 6 forwards - SKILL
Bottom 6 forwards - GRIT
This is team USA, not the Toronto Maple Leafs. You don't bring in 2 grinding lines on an international team, not when you're at the level of the US. Its like if Canada had a couple of lines of Drapers and Pecas. Its ridiculous. The only reason he's doing this is because Gomez plays for the Habs and Burke is just trying to find ways to screw with the Habs a bit. Burke is a decent GM but he's classless. If I was an American, I'd be pretty pissed with Burke if he doesn't bring Gomez. No matter what he thinks, Gomez is one of the best American players at the current time. And if he causes the US to lose face because of his selfish reasons then he would deserve to be crucified by the American media.

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is it impossible that Komisarek doesn't make the team? comsidering the GM is Burke and the coach is Wilson

and...

Burke can go suck a D*ck!

that is it, that is all

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This is team USA, not the Toronto Maple Leafs. You don't bring in 2 grinding lines on an international team, not when you're at the level of the US. Its like if Canada had a couple of lines of Drapers and Pecas. Its ridiculous. The only reason he's doing this is because Gomez plays for the Habs and Burke is just trying to find ways to screw with the Habs a bit. Burke is a decent GM but he's classless. If I was an American, I'd be pretty pissed with Burke if he doesn't bring Gomez. No matter what he thinks, Gomez is one of the best American players at the current time. And if he causes the US to lose face because of his selfish reasons then he would deserve to be crucified by the American media.
Draper and Peca both were part of team Canada's roster on the olympic at one time. International teams do use grinding lines.

And if you mean they shouldn't use more than one grinding line, I'd still disagree. The USA won't compete in terms of skills with Canada, Sweden or Russia. Dustin Brown, David Backes, Chris Drury, Ryan Kesler, Paul Gaustad... those are the guys that can lead them far.

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As a Canadian I hope he doesn't play. The team will be worse without him and that's better for team Canada and there is less chance of him getting injured.

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so who is his competition for 1/2 center?

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If he doesn't make it.

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It's because he doesn't really contribute to the team if it's not offensive.

Brian Burke's teams are built like this...

Top 6 forwards - SKILL
Bottom 6 forwards - GRIT
More like

Top 3 Forwards - Fluff and Floaters
Bottom 9 forwards - Goons and Fringe NHLers

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so who is his competition for 1/2 center?
Stastny, Drury, Kesler... I'm pretty sure he'll make as there is no salary cap in the Olympics

Kessel can play center as well but most likely won't

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This is team USA, not the Toronto Maple Leafs. You don't bring in 2 grinding lines on an international team, not when you're at the level of the US. Its like if Canada had a couple of lines of Drapers and Pecas. Its ridiculous. The only reason he's doing this is because Gomez plays for the Habs and Burke is just trying to find ways to screw with the Habs a bit. Burke is a decent GM but he's classless. If I was an American, I'd be pretty pissed with Burke if he doesn't bring Gomez. No matter what he thinks, Gomez is one of the best American players at the current time. And if he causes the US to lose face because of his selfish reasons then he would deserve to be crucified by the American media.
Backes, Kesler, Oshie etcare the type of players that will contribute on the bottom lines. Seriously, get a grip.

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Stastny, Drury, Kesler... I'm pretty sure he'll make as there is no salary cap in the Olympics

Kessel can play center as well but most likely won't
I can see stastny doing really well, although i haven't followed his numbers in the past. I can't really see drury beating him out and i don't know kesler enough to comment on him fairly.

And to comment on what you said about kessel, i was lurking the bruins board and caught even them saying that kessel is preferable as a winger because his defensive coverage is weak at center.

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Burke's EGO getting in the way again.. Gomez plays for a division rival. He is going to have to play extra good if he plans on making the Toronto Maple.. Errr. Team USA.

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This is team USA, not the Toronto Maple Leafs. You don't bring in 2 grinding lines on an international team, not when you're at the level of the US. Its like if Canada had a couple of lines of Drapers and Pecas. Its ridiculous. The only reason he's doing this is because Gomez plays for the Habs and Burke is just trying to find ways to screw with the Habs a bit. Burke is a decent GM but he's classless. If I was an American, I'd be pretty pissed with Burke if he doesn't bring Gomez. No matter what he thinks, Gomez is one of the best American players at the current time. And if he causes the US to lose face because of his selfish reasons then he would deserve to be crucified by the American media.
I agree, he wants to mess around with the habs through the media. Basically, his intentions are to make Gomez nervous. Which won't happen...


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Stastny, Drury, Kesler... I'm pretty sure he'll make as there is no salary cap in the Olympics

Kessel can play center as well but most likely won't
Then I guess Gomez is a shoe-in. Kesler will be their 3rd line center and Gomez and Stastny will fight for the number one center spot.

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To be honest, I hope he doesn't make the team and rests up. A healthy (80+ games) Gomez is a good Gomez.

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I don't want him to be part of a loosing team. Heck, team USA su*** ballz. I predict another Canada vs Russia final!! Crosby against Malkin and Ovechkin!

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I agree, he wants to mess around with the habs through the media.
Uhh, I think you're being a tad paranoid about Burke's intentions here.

He's also told Leafs players many times that if they don't perform, they could be sent to the minors (this includes NHL regulars, not just young guys). This isn't a case of trying to mess with Gomez. Heck, in that same clip John Tortorella admits that Gomez stunk last year. Maybe he's trying to mess with the Habs too?

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I doubt it will affect Gomez, since his competition is only the U.S team roster.

Here are the list of forwards invited to the camp:

Backes, Booth, D. Brown, Byfulien, Parise, Kane, Statsny, Lagenbrunner, Kesler, Kessel, Oshie, Drury, Modano, Pavelski, Gomez, B. Ryan, Callahan, Okposo, Malone.

I'm sure that each team will carry 13 Forwards, 4 lines and 1 player that rotates.

Here's who I think will make the team (I tried to make the lines, best I could. I have 3 scoring lines and 1 scoring/grinder line):

Line 1: Backes Gomez Parise
Line 2: Kane Drury Kessel
Line 3: Ryan Statsny Booth
Line 4: Byfulien Brown Lagenbrunner
Oshie (assuming Modano decides he is too old and does not want to play. Otherwise, Modano is a lock.)

Since I took a look at the entire orientation roster list, I might as well go through the defensemen list.

Here's the list of defensemen invited to the camp:

Rafalski, Orpik, E. Johnson, J. Johnson, Scuderi, Hainsey, Martin, Whitney, Gleason, Komisarek, Gilbert, Suter.

Here's who I think/should make it (notice how I put should, because I think there is one ex-hab who should not make it, based on the list here.) The ideal roster would show 3 lines and 1 rotating Defenseman:

Line 1: Rafalski Whitney
Line 2: Scuderi Orpik
Line 3: Martin Hainsey
Gleason or E. Johnson

Yeah, most think that Komisarek will make the roster, because his boss/GM, is Burke (who is also the GM of Team USA).

Goalies (this isn't too hard).

Miller
Thomas
Quick/Esche (Probably Esche, due to alot of experience).

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It's because he doesn't really contribute to the team if it's not offensive.

Brian Burke's teams are built like this...

Top 6 forwards - SKILL
Bottom 6 forwards - GRIT
Because grit is the only quality that makes an effective defensive forward?

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I bet you 51.3 million dollars it will.

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Heck Scott Gomez said Scott Gomez stunk it up last year. The word he used was "embarassing". He knows he needs to shape up regardless of what Burke says. He's said at much.

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