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08-26-2009, 05:09 PM
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Oh Pete, your the grammer and spelling police for crying out loud. Your pegged as well.
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I wonder if this counts as battery.
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Hehe. I actually thought you did it on purpose, just to mess with him

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Key words there, with Hitch as his coach, a man who hates small players, and Europeans, it will be interesting to see if he gets ice time. Hopefully he is allowed to create offense and not turned into a defensive specialist.
Let the kid play Hitch.
That's too funny. Hitch once talked about Forsberg with me. He really lit up when talking about him. He couldn't say enough about his talent, skill, desire and work ethic. In short he said he hopes Nash can develop into the kind of player Forsberg was.

I forget, where is Forsberg from????

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That's too funny. Hitch once talked about Forsberg with me. He really lit up when talking about him. He couldn't say enough about his talent, skill, desire and work ethic. In short he said he hopes Nash can develop into the kind of player Forsberg was.

I forget, where is Forsberg from????
Colorado. Duh.


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Now Puck Daddy has an interview that Pavel Lysenkov did with Ilya Kovalchuk, and it really seems that this reporter has some kind of an agenda. He has Ilya Kovalchuk in front of him and all he wants to talk about is the KHL?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...aining-content

And the wording of this question...

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When you consider all pros and cons a year from now before you sign a new contract, what aces will the KHL have?
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I am not playing only for money. Prestige and the name are important for me. I want to be a winner. My goal is to win the Stanley Cup. It is one of the biggest trophies in the world of sports.
Basically saying the only edge the KHL would have would be money

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Now Puck Daddy has an interview that Pavel Lysenkov did with Ilya Kovalchuk, and it really seems that this reporter has some kind of an agenda. He has Ilya Kovalchuk in front of him and all he wants to talk about is the KHL?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...aining-content

And the wording of this question...



And Ilya's answer:



Basically saying the only edge the KHL would have would be money
Either that, or the reporter knows that his reading audience has such an agenda, and so he's asking the questions he knows folks will want answered.

If this guy starts blogging about Kovalchuk being destined for the KHL after this interview, then I'll get suspicious.

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08-26-2009, 07:27 PM
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I'm going to love him as well if he continues to be honest with his replies, and not simply respond to questions with cliche after cliche to appease people who can't handle such honesty. Come to think of it, that's probably one of the reasons why I like a lot of the Russian players; many don't seem to feel the need to censor themselves. Rather odd how North Americans almost seem to require such censorship from their celebrities.
It's awesome that he is candid...it is the content that could have people concerned. I guess the point is that people are hoping that he ISN'T hanging the KHL over the CBJ's head. The fact that it gets mentioned as it did is what has people's interest piqued.

If he stays and plays and does the things they are asking of him, no worries.

He he stays, plays and then the team doesn't feel like it can move him where he may reap the greatest benefit, that is a bad thing.

He wants to play in the NHL, we get it. Awesome. Now do whatever it takes to earn your spot. If he does this, there is no story.

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Hehe. I actually thought you did it on purpose, just to mess with him
Oh I did, I did... That said, Filatov would be best served to avoid interviews with the Russian press. He handled himself well but one word out of place, one t not crossed or one i not dotted and some fans will pounce on his remarks. He's a good kid, I hope the media and fans give him some wiggle room both on the ice and off in the coming months.. just sayin.

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I've been saying from the beginning Filatov is lw on the

2nd line. You don't keep Pavel Bure like player on a tether, or tell them to play defense on a checking line, or goon it up on the 4th line

Pittsburgh fans, Caps fans... they understand. If your going to keep the best young Russians here in the NHL (and IMO that is where they belong), then you better let them play to their strengths.

If Mgmt doesn't want to do this.. then don't draft Russian talent. Filatov is going to be a great Blue Jacket, the kid will be an international star.. no one knows this better than Doogie Howson.

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I'm going to love him as well if he continues to be honest with his replies, and not simply respond to questions with cliche after cliche to appease people who can't handle such honesty. Come to think of it, that's probably one of the reasons why I like a lot of the Russian players; many don't seem to feel the need to censor themselves. Rather odd how North Americans almost seem to require such censorship from their celebrities.
Generally most people like the honesty as long as it follows their ideology. Being honest is a great want to get destroyed by the media and the fans.

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Now Puck Daddy has an interview that Pavel Lysenkov did with Ilya Kovalchuk, and it really seems that this reporter has some kind of an agenda. He has Ilya Kovalchuk in front of him and all he wants to talk about is the KHL?
What's wrong with it?

Sovetsky Sport isn't in the business of selling papers to NHL fans.

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Blues fan here, I promise I'm not trolling!

Filatov is one of my favorite prospects, behind Eller. Was previously behind Voracek as well.

You know how hard it is, watching two of your favorite kids playing for a rivaled team? It's tough.

But it'd be harder to watch all his talent wasted in the KHL.

Basically, I'd rather my team have to play against the players I like because anywhere else and their wasting their talent in my opinion. You've got some good young kids on your roster and in your pipeline. You'll be a force soon enough. Most the central will. It's going to be a fun season. I hope Filatov dominates........just not against St. Louis.

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2nd line. You don't keep Pavel Bure like player on a tether, or tell them to play defense on a checking line, or goon it up on the 4th line
You also don't let him be above the philosophy of the team as a whole just because he can score some goals. He learns how to play the right way within the structure of the team. As soon as you let allow one player to be above the team, that is when a. will never really win anything of consequence and/or b. you truly start to lose the room. Players who work their butts off to get where they are in the league resent entitlement nearly more than anything else.

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Pittsburgh fans, Caps fans... they understand. If your going to keep the best young Russians here in the NHL (and IMO that is where they belong), then you better let them play to their strengths.
The russian in pittsburgh and the russian in Washington are two totally different players. One plays the right way for 200 feet, the other is awesome from the redline forward.

There is a reason one team has won it all and the other one has failed to get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs.

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If Mgmt doesn't want to do this.. then don't draft Russian talent. Filatov is going to be a great Blue Jacket, the kid will be an international star.. no one knows this better than Doogie Howson.
Nobody is worried about him playing to his strengths...nobody is expecting him to do anything but, but in order to be successful in this game and league, you MUST work on your play from the redline back and without the puck. He seems very aware of that and willing to at least try. Can't ask for more than that. Let's see how committed he is when it is time to take action on the ice.

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08-26-2009, 10:33 PM
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It's going to be a fun season. I hope Filatov dominates........just not against St. Louis.
Well, if last year was any indication of how it is going to be for us vs. you guys, you shouldn't worry. However, we are all hoping for big things. You are right, the central is going to be intense.

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What's wrong with it?

Sovetsky Sport isn't in the business of selling papers to NHL fans.
What is that supposed to mean? They're also not in the business of having their interviews translated for North America.

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He wants to play in the NHL and win a cup. Unless he's still in the AHL after his ELC is done, then he'll probably still be around. I think he realizes what a joke the KHL is and that they are just throwing money at any Euro playing in NA.

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What is that supposed to mean? They're also not in the business of having their interviews translated for North America.
Right, this is why the reporter wants to talk to Ilya about KHL so much. He's just asking questions basic Russian sporting fans will find most interesting.....mainly KHL and national team stuff.
But apparently you think he's on some weird 'agenda'.

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The russian in pittsburgh and the russian in Washington are two totally different players. One plays the right way for 200 feet, the other is awesome from the redline forward.

There is a reason one team has won it all and the other one has failed to get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs.
I actually think Filatov is more like Alex Semin then either of the two Russian Centres

Semin has boatloads of talent, and he is allowed to be offensive minded... I would say Filatov is probably ahead of Semin in the d zone. Filatov doesn't have Malkin's size or Ovies motor.. but he can skate and he has an innate ability to score with the puck on his stick.. but I get ya hash... just troubled by those that think scoring is a bad thing is all


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Here's a take on the interview from a media type I happen to respect:

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I see diplomacy rather than manipulation in Filatov's comments. His words do not bother me in the least. And here is my take on where Filatov fits with the Jackets: Filatov has more pure, raw talent than any other skater in the organization, with the possible exception of Rick Nash. And he's not a jerk. In six weeks' time, nobody will be talking about what Filatov said to a Russian journalist in August.
Done

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I actually think Filatov is more like Alex Semin then either of the two Russian Centres

Semin has boatloads of talent, and he is allowed to be offensive minded... I would say Filatov is probably ahead of Semin in the d zone. Filatov doesn't have Malkin's size or Ovies motor.. but he can skate and he has an innate ability to score with the puck on his stick.. but I get ya hash... just troubled by those that think scoring is a bad thing is all
Who thinks that? Another big part of winning hockey is preventing the other team from scoring too. Filatov can work his magic as much as he wants from the redline forward, but he will be required to come back and play the other half of the ice.

Until those Russians in Washington learn to do so as well, they won't win a damn thing.

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Who thinks that? Another big part of winning hockey is preventing the other team from scoring too. Filatov can work his magic as much as he wants from the redline forward, but he will be required to come back and play the other half of the ice.

Until those Russians in Washington learn to do so as well, they won't win a damn thing.
There is a caveat in here that I think you've expressed previously but folks may have overlooked - this does not mean that Filatov absolutely must become a two-way defensive star to rival the likes of Pahlsson or something to have any chance of playing here ever; it just means that there's other occasional responsibilities that he'll have to help shoulder now and again.

That said, if he's *capable* of doing that while retaining his potential offensive output... y'know, I don't think I'd mind all that much.

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There is a caveat in here that I think you've expressed previously but folks may have overlooked - this does not mean that Filatov absolutely must become a two-way defensive star to rival the likes of Pahlsson or something to have any chance of playing here ever; it just means that there's other occasional responsibilities that he'll have to help shoulder now and again.

That said, if he's *capable* of doing that while retaining his potential offensive output... y'know, I don't think I'd mind all that much.
Exactly. Nobody is expecting him to be a stud from the redline back, but playing the game on the move and in big circles so that his linemates have to check and recheck his guy will not fly.

Just try, that's all.

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Summer sucks.

This board is unbearable right now

Same stuff in every thread.

October can't get here fast enough.

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Summer sucks.

This board is unbearable right now

Same stuff in every thread.

October can't get here fast enough.
True, for us all.

One reason is that our roster is set for the most part. Oh, we may see a defensive player signing before the opening regular season game but to tell you the truth, I'd like to see how well we can do with what we have. If there's any money left to spend it's my opinion we should spend it at the trade deadline to help an advance past the first round.

For years I complained about the changes in our roster every season negating carry over chemistry-well-that's not going to be the case this season. We will essentially be icing the same team as last year, which will pay off baring critical injuries.


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