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04-04-2004, 01:21 AM
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Which pair will be more dominate in the future?

Columbus- Zherdev, Rick Nash

Atlanta- Heatly, Kovalchuk


Tough decision..

Choose 1

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I know I want it to be Nash and Zherdev

I will say this: I watched Atlanta a good bit in the past because of Ilya and Heatley, and as much fun as they were to watch, I have more fun watching Zherdev and Nash, but I am a Blue Jackets fan.

Some of us have said it before, but...Zherdev alone is worth the price of admission. So are the other three, of course, but not as many people have caught on about Z yet. I'm going to be interested to see how much he challenges people one-on-one next year. Nash challenged people one-on-one a lot more in his first year than he did in his second year, but Nash has found his scoring niche (niches?) regardless. I'm hoping Z keeps it up, though, because he's better at it than Nash overall. Maybe not as good in tight as Nash, but Z can really leave you with your pants down. Heck, they both can.

I feel like weeping with joy just thinking about both of them.

I'm in love. Don't mind me.

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these duos will be much closer than people think. the atlanta duo is about 2 to 3 years older than the columbus one. who knows what nash and zherdev will look like in 3 years.

i wouldn't be that surprised if nash/zherdev ends up being the better duo. right now it's easily kovalchuk/heatley though.

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Originally Posted by Fuzzy
Sakic-Forsberg
Hejduk-Tanguay
Kariya-Selanne
Svatos-Konowalchuk
Barnaby-Gratton
Hinote-Hahl
Hendrickson-Nikolishin
Cummins-Worell
i don't know what you're trying to say, but most of those duos suck. the atlanta duo is already better than all of them except sakic-forsberg.

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Don't forget Zetterberg and Datsyuk.
Maybe Ruutu and Arnason.
Heatly and Kovalchuk of course.
Daniel and Henrik Sedin (They gonna be good)

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Columbus- Zherdev, Rick Nash

Atlanta- Heatly, Kovalchuk


Tough decision..

Choose 1
I'd go with Heatley and Kovalchuk.

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Heatley and Kovalchuk


Rowsdower...man, I miss the MST3K reruns on SciFi.

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Zherdev/Nash will be good but they simply aren't as talented as Kovalchuk/Heatley IMO. I have posted about this already, but Kovalchuk's first 2 years were quite a bit more impressive than Nash's first 2 years and Heatley last year ranked in the top 7 in scoring already (Kovalchuk will finish 3rd in scoring this season).

I think Nash has the capability of being in the top 10 in scoring eventually but I don't see that with Zherdev. I think Kovalchuk and Heatley already are good enough to perenially be in the top 10 in scoring almost every season now for a long time.

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Don't forget Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

Thank you...I was going to mention them, but you beat me to it.

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Don't forget Zetterberg and Datsyuk.
Heatly & Kovalchuk will be 23 and 21.

Nash & Zherdev will be both be 20.


Datsyuk & Zetterberg will be 26 and 24 respectively at the start of next season. If you're going to bring them up then you add LeCavalier (24) & Richards (24), who would be better than the wings pair.

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I didn't know age was a qualifier for whether they would be dominant or not...I didn't think it mattered how old you were if you were good.

Apparently a little age discrimination is in effect here.

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I didn't know age was a qualifier for whether they would be dominant or not...I didn't think it mattered if you were good.

Apparently a little age discrimination is in effect here.
Well the original question was about a group of 19 and 20 year olds, not players in their mid-20's or older.

It's not a question of Sundin-Mogilny, Sakic-Hejduk, LeCavalier-St. Louis, Thornto - Samsonov etc.

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All four (Kovy, Heatley, Z, and Nash) are dynamic scorers. Both Heatley & Kovalchuk are better playmakers than Zherdev & Nash. Kovy/Heatley also have a tight relationship off the ice; they seem to really trust each other. Of course, it's possible and likely that Z/N will become better playmakers with experience, and develop good chemistry. For now, I'll take Kovy/Heatley.

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Well the original question was about a group of 19 and 20 year olds, not players in their mid-20's or older.

It's not a question of Sundin-Mogilny, Sakic-Hejduk, LeCavalier-St. Louis, Thornto - Samsonov etc.

Ah ha...I see. Forgive me my ignorance...I'm still not totally awake yet.

In that case, I will go with the Atlanta duo.

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I didn't know age was a qualifier for whether they would be dominant or not...I didn't think it mattered how old you were if you were good.

Apparently a little age discrimination is in effect here.
It's not age discrimination. Nash, Zherdev and Kovalchuk are a lot younger. Datsyuk & Zetterberg are great players; but if they are to be compared to another duo, it should be some in their age category - maybe Thornton and Samsonov...

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It's not age discrimination. Nash, Zherdev and Kovalchuk are a lot younger. Datsyuk & Zetterberg are great players; but if they are to be compared to another duo, it should be some in their age category - maybe Thornton and Samsonov...
though this is only Zetterberg's second year in the league and Datsyuk's third. So they are similar to those two in NHL experience. Thornton and Samsonov have both been in the league for seven years.

I'd have to go with Kovalchuk-Heatley. Nash scores a lot of goals, but I don't find him as exciting as the other two.

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though this is only Zetterberg's second year in the league and Datsyuk's third. So they are similar to those two in NHL experience. Thornton and Samsonov have both been in the league for seven years.

I'd have to go with Kovalchuk-Heatley. Nash scores a lot of goals, but I don't find him as exciting as the other two.

Thanks for adding that little tidbit...apparently someone forgot that information and just focused in on their ages, and not their time in the League. If you allow for that, then I would have to say it's Henrik and Pavel.

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Thanks for adding that little tidbit...apparently someone forgot that information and just focused in on their ages, and not their time in the League. If you allow for that, then I would have to say it's Henrik and Pavel.
Yes, but being in the league at a younger age usually further marks a player for greater potential down the line than a guy who gets into the NHL at an older age. I mean, there are reasons why Nash and Kovalchuk started playing in the NHL as 18 year olds..they are that talented.

Zetteberg is a good talent but I don't forsee him having the potential to be as good as Nash or Kovalchuk.

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Both Heatley & Kovalchuk are better playmakers than Zherdev & Nash.
Uh .. have you seen Zherdev play?

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Ah ha...I see. Forgive me my ignorance...I'm still not totally awake yet.

In that case, I will go with the Atlanta duo.

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actually.. i would go with nash-zherdev.. zherdev has so so so so so much skill.. and nash has the nasty.. they just seem to compliment eachother so well.

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Uh .. have you seen Zherdev play?
Zherdev has excellent vision and hands - but he still suffers from "fancynitis". IMO, Heatley & Kovalchuk are better playmakers *right now* because they are more efficient. Having said that, Zherdev is ahead of where Heater and Kovy were in their rookie years.

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