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09-01-2009, 07:50 AM
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Who Should Fill The Second Line RW Role

Now that we have Tanguay There is only one position that is a question who should fill it?
This is our top two lines:

Maloan - Stamkos - St. Louis
Tanguay - Lecavalier - ?????

here are a couple options

Carter Ashton
Steve Downie
Trade for one
sighn one
Other
tell me who you think should play there?
If you say trade tell me who. same with sighn and other.

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Now that we have Tanguay There is only one position that is a question who should fill it?
This is our top two lines:

Maloan - Stamkos - St. Louis
Tanguay - Lecavalier - ?????

here are a couple options

Carter Ashton
Steve Downie
Trade for one
sighn one
Other
tell me who you think should play there?
If you say trade tell me who. same with sighn and other.
Ashton won't make the jump to the NHL. He needs to bulk up a little first.

They won't sign or trade anyone (unless someone offers something mind blowing).

Veilleux and Downie articles, with quotes from players, make it seem as if its a "its up to whoever takes the job" scenario.

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09-01-2009, 08:18 AM
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I suggested in another thread to take a look at Kyle Calder. He can play 2nd/3rd line, unlike Sykora, who is more of a traditional top six player, but a bit of a liability in the bottom lines, should he prove himself incapable of putting up numbers.

That being said, Calder isn't exactly a guy I'm dying to get (he's not really that much of an upgrade on Downie, or Prospal for that matter) and I'd think with the current surplus of D, Lawton would make a trade.


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I'd trade Krajicek + a 4th or 3rd for a RW like Svatos.

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A few other guys I'd be looking into picking up:

Ray Whitney
Victor Kozlov
Brad Boyes
Jason Blake
J.P. Dumont
Loui Eriksson
Stephen Weiss - a center, but whatcha gonna do
Martin Erat
Marco Sturm - he's been injured a lot, and Boston may figure they can do without him. He's also a much more realistic trade target than Kessel.

The best candidate for UFA's, just based on talent, would be Zherdev. Followed by Sundin. Then finally Sykora.

Zherdev has an attitude problem, and Sundin doesn't address the need and would cost far too much. Leaving Sykora as the best UFA for our needs. Miroslav Satan in second place.

How about talking Markus Naslund out of retirement? He'd be second on my list.


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Tanguay - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Malone - Halpern - Stamkos?

If that dont work out move Stamkos in the middle and try Karsums on the wing.

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Tanguay - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Malone - Halpern - Stamkos?

If that dont work out move Stamkos in the middle and try Karsums on the wing.
Karsums is 3rd or 4th line. In my opinion it is Downie or Veilleux for the top 6 six. If both of those suck in camp, which I doubt, I would rather give Tyrell a shot. Veilleux took less $ to come to Tampa as he was told he would get a shot at top 6. Downie showed some good chemistry with Stamkos. MSL will get double shifted a lot as usual.
My top 6:
Tanguay - VL - Downie/MSL
Malone - Stamkos - MSL/Downie

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Tanguay - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Malone - Halpern - Stamkos?
If that dont work out move Stamkos in the middle and try Karsums on the wing.
I LOL'd.

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Stamkos will center the second line, and man I wish we could have JP Dumont on Stamkos wing. That'd be sick.

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Think we ought to try and pry Kobasew from Boston, he is about their 10th top 6 forward, and isn't terribly expensive at 2.3 mil per season. Good for 20 goals, aggressive play, and aware in both ends. He would fit perfectly on Stamkos' wing.

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They need to give Veilleux a chance.

He turned down a two-year deal to get a shot at the top 6. If Tampa doesn't give him at least a shot to start the year there then they will burn bridges with other free agents.

Line 1a: Malone, Stamkos, Marty
Line 1b: Tanguay, V4, Veilleux

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The more I read of Veilleux, the more I like him. Had good TOI numbers, but played in that infamous Minnesota system.

Went 13-10-23 with line 2-3 minutes. Could open up in a more offensive system. Loves to play the body, goes to the corners. Probably didnt have the best linemates, but i'm not sure.

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They need to give Veilleux a chance.
That would be my choice, outside of a trade, and I think going into camp, it is his spot to lose.

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He had some crazy stats in his last year of the QMJHL. Outside of Val d'Or, he's never really put up the numbers I'd think would be necessary to play an NHL scoring role.

Actually, if I can rip on Vellieux some more: He was last on the Wild last season in plus/minus (-17), and we are expecting him to be a shutdown, PK type forward. The numbers aren't everything, but you've got to take note of this...It means points weren't going up when he was on the ice either. He notched as many points in 81 games (23) as Gaborik did in his 17. Blame the system, but he had an average of playing 15min/game and that is what he produced.

He had the same points per game average last season as Taylor Pyatt. Szczechura had a slightly higher number. Mark Parrish had a higher number. Vrbata had a better number. Why is he now the front runner for the top six slot? He has to earn it.

btw, his most common line mates at even strength last season were Cal Clutterbuck and James Sheppard.


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Brandon Bochenski - he's on a one way deal this season and is no good on the bottom 6

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Now that we have Tanguay There is only one position that is a question who should fill it?
This is our top two lines:

Maloan - Stamkos - St. Louis
Tanguay - Lecavalier - ?????

here are a couple options

Carter Ashton
Steve Downie
Trade for one
sighn one
Other
tell me who you think should play there?
If you say trade tell me who. same with sighn and other.
My guess is:
Downie or Veilleux

Miller might try for that spot but he's rather thin for his height (6-2", 175lbs). Dont know if he will be able to move the puck as well as Downie or Veilleux. Miller is a looonnnnggg shot.

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Who cares. Tanguay is gonna win us the cup anyways, he can just double-shift. Woo! Plan the parade.

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what about tukonen tyrell or fadden? honestly i havent seen much of them, but with malone-stamkos-st louis all but set, it seems like maybe they could take a chance with one of the younger guys with offensive upside playing with 2 responsible vets in tanguay-lecavalier and hope they stick? or are those 3 still too far off?

downie is probably the favorite anyways, and i know tukonen hasnt been great and tyrell has been injured.

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what about tukonen tyrell or fadden? honestly i havent seen much of them, but with malone-stamkos-st louis all but set, it seems like maybe they could take a chance with one of the younger guys with offensive upside playing with 2 responsible vets in tanguay-lecavalier and hope they stick? or are those 3 still too far off?

downie is probably the favorite anyways, and i know tukonen hasnt been great and tyrell has been injured.
Fadden needs to become more defensively responsible. Plus as a playmaker you want him to stay as a centre. So I dont see him making the team this year.

Tyrell is the darkhorse of the prospects, is or will be perfect for Toccs system, fast gritty hardworking and has some skill. But I dont think he makes the team, he will be top line for Norfolk.

I dont know much about Tukonen, but from what I have heard/read he is likely bound for the 3rd line if not Europe.

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Panik isn't NHL ready yet right?

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Panik isn't NHL ready yet right?
Nope. Needs to adapt to NA ice, then get better defensively and get into shape.

2 if not 3 years away I reckon.

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Fadden needs to become more defensively responsible. Plus as a playmaker you want him to stay as a centre. So I dont see him making the team this year.

Tyrell is the darkhorse of the prospects, is or will be perfect for Toccs system, fast gritty hardworking and has some skill. But I dont think he makes the team, he will be top line for Norfolk.

I dont know much about Tukonen, but from what I have heard/read he is likely bound for the 3rd line if not Europe.
Tukonen supposedly has some pretty good tools, but needs to put it all back together after injury. Tyrell really needs time in the AHL.

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Afinogenov would probably be the best for your of all remaining FA's if he could be signed for 1.5-2.2 million, though I don't know if you guys have the cap space. He's fast, good stickhandler, plays a hard nosed game, and if he plays under Tocchet's system he could very well put up very solid numbers. Doesn't think the game through too well but a bona fide top 6 forward aside from that. Much better option than Sykora, who just took a nosedive last season and seems to have entirely lost his wheels.

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I think Steven Downie should be given at least a chance at the role.

Downie-Stamkos-St.louis was awesome, both St.louis and Downie showing great chemistry together and with Malone-VL-Tanguay our lines look pretty damn good imo.

Least thats how I would roll it, but then again Im not the head coach so.......yeah.....

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