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04-07-2004, 06:43 PM
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What's the scoop on Wheeler? Is he another Irmen?

 
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What's the scoop on Wheeler? Is he another Irmen?

musch bigger already. He is 6'4" or 6'5" as a 17 year old. He has more pure skill too. If he ends up with Irmens heart and grit he would be amazing...here's to hoping!

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I'm looking at Brian Bickell, might be a reach but he has the size (6'3", 217 lbs) but doesn't seem to have the scoring touch.

 
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I think that you put a pretty good list together Krys. You hit the nail on the head.

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04-07-2004, 10:32 PM
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I think that you put a pretty good list together Krys. You hit the nail on the head.
Thanks, I think I'll be far off though. Last year I thought they were going to take Marc-Antoine Pouliot and the year before I thought they were going to take the other little guy, Jiri Hulder(hah, he went all the way down to 58).
I suppose it would help if I could actually see these guys play.

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04-08-2004, 12:49 PM
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I wish I went through a growth spurt like that but it's possible...

I'd like Shantz as our second rounder...

I agree now that we do need another NA goalie.
You're calling for a goalie in round 2? I'm kind of surprised with all those threads saying no goalies this year. But if you're going to take one, Shantz is a good pick. I'm sure Glen could talk more about him, but in the games I've seen him play he did look good. If he's gone, there's also Justin Peters who's pretty good. I did an interview with him a few months ago (it's in the OHL section). I could tell you more about him from what I've seen this year.

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04-08-2004, 01:01 PM
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Here's the mock draft my friend and I made over the past few days. The first 10 took us about 30-45 minutes then late last night we did the rest sort of quickly, so after the top 10 it was done pretty fast. In other words, less thought went in, so I'm sure it's not too close compared to the first 10 .

1. Washington - Alexander Ovechkin
2. Pittsburgh - Evgeny Malkin
3. Chicago - Rostislav Olesz
4. Columbus - Cam Barker
5. Phoenix - Rob Schremp
6. New York Rangers - Wojtek Wolski
7. Florida - Lauri Tukonen
8. Carolina - Ladislav Smid
9. Anaheim - Andrew Ladd
10. Atlanta - Kyle Chipchura
11. Los Angeles - Alvaro Montoya
12. Minnesota - Drew Stafford
13. Buffalo - Sami Lepisto
14. Edmonton - Mike Green
15. Nashville - David Bolland
16. New York Islanders - Vaclav Meidl
17. St. Louis - Marek Schwarz
18. Montreal - Lukas Kaspar
19. Calgary - Alexandre Picard
20. Dallas - Johan Fransson
21. Colorado - Andrej Meszaros
22. New Jersey - David Booth
23. Philadelphia (Edmonton) - Jakub Sindel
24. Vancouver - Alexander Radulov
25. Ottawa - A.J. Thelen
26. Toronto (NYR) - Jeff Schultz
27. Boston (Was) - Evan McGrath
28. San Jose - Carl Soderberg
29. Tampa Bay - Boris Valabik
30. Detroit (Was) - Anver Lisin


We tried basing it on teams positions and needs depending on what they already have. Because of that, some good players fell out of the 1st round and some went farther down than others. Fire away. Anyone like Stafford for Minnesota?

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04-08-2004, 01:28 PM
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Thelen is way to low, Lepisto too high, Picard a little low

 
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At this rate i would like to get Wes Oneil in the second, maybe throw in a late pick and move up for him. A big d man that has O upside we could really use that.

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Does Stafford still need to decide if he's going to opt in to the draft this year? I have to admit I haven't paid much attention to him in the games I saw. I read he's a physical forward type guy? Can't hurt to have a good one of those, I say. I'm leaning towards the best skater with very good puck skills, forward or d-man, but I have no idea who that is.

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04-08-2004, 03:13 PM
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Thelen is way to low, Lepisto too high, Picard a little low
Well, like I said, we were trying to base it on teams needs for each team more than BPA. Aren't many teams looking for goalies, but Schwarz is low compared to what kind of goalie he could become.

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The Wild's assistant general manager for player personnel, Tommy Thompson, said Monday, "There are at least 12 guys we would be delighted to take in the first round. And I'm not blowing smoke."

Thompson will be in Minsk, Belarus, on Thursday to scout the world championship for under-18-year-old players, and it's a decent bet that the Wild's first-round draft pick will compete in the tournament.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...rs/8363720.htm

Yeah, it's Shooter, but at least the quote from Thompson should be accurate.

Nice work though, Tommy. "At least 12" means that no matter what happens, we'll be delighted with the guy we get.


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Anyone else want to bet that if we were drafting 18th, there'd be at least 18 guys we'd be "delighted to take?"

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04-09-2004, 08:57 AM
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http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...rs/8363720.htm

Yeah, it's Shooter, but at least the quote from Thompson should be accurate.

Nice work though, Tommy. "At least 12" means that no matter what happens, we'll be delighted with the guy we get.

Yes, but more importantly, will WE be delighted?

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C'mon guys! What's with the cynicism? (Ok, ok, I started it, I know...)

Seriously though, any opinions on this quote?

"Thompson will be in Minsk, Belarus, on Thursday to scout the world championship for under-18-year-old players, and it's a decent bet that the Wild's first-round draft pick will compete in the tournament."

I just briefly scanned the rosters.. could we be going for a Russian? (Seems completely silly to be basing this on a Shooter comment, but it's Friday and I'm a little bored. )

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Ceber, where did you find the rosters?

Didn't the Wild say that last years draft was 20 deep also? It seems to be the company line with them.

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Ceber, where did you find the rosters?

Didn't the Wild say that last years draft was 20 deep also? It seems to be the company line with them.
Wouldn't surprise me if there was some quote like that last year.

Rosters and stats available here:
http://www.iihf.com/hydra/tournaments/output/W18/

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04-09-2004, 01:51 PM
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Saw this over on the wild.com boards.. was it posted here, too?
Thelen's favorite NHL team? The Wild.
http://msuspartans.ocsn.com/sports/m...elen_aj00.html

Isn't there some rule that says an NHL team must at least make a minimal attempt to draft a guy if he says that team is his favorite?

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04-09-2004, 02:24 PM
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Thelen doesn't fit with what's going on with the Wild right now. They are missing a top flight winger (other than O'Sullivan) to compliment Gaborik.

 
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04-09-2004, 09:25 PM
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I would be very happy if we drated Thelen. He seems really solid offensively and defensively.

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04-09-2004, 10:14 PM
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I said this last year, and I'll say it again - draft Koivu again. Keep drafting him every damned year until we finally get him over here. Sooner or later it's just got to work!

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I said this last year, and I'll say it again - draft Koivu again. Keep drafting him every damned year until we finally get him over here. Sooner or later it's just got to work!


He'll be here next year...

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04-13-2004, 02:31 AM
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What do you guys think of the idea of trading out of the first round, to build a little depth?

I like what I hear about guys like Thelen, Green, Chipchura, Stafford, etc., but moving our pick to a team like Philly or someone that has no 1st could probably bring in a pretty good package on draft day(player+mid pick+future high pick). If we could get a player that was really ready to play next year and not just rookie grooming, I'd be all for it.

I suppose I should mention that I'm a little down on DR's drafting...

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I think if we were in a bit of a better state prospects wise it wouldn't be such a bad idea, but this team is in bad need of a blue chip guy, especially on the wing. But it's not a bad idea. If someone wants to overpay for that pick, I'm all for it. As long as DR doesn't do Fedotenko and two 2nd's for a guy that turns into another Pitkanen

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04-13-2004, 03:16 PM
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no. i really like where we're picking. With the ncaa ruling, we're virtually guaranteed to land either Thelen, Stafford, or Picard. All are perfect fits for this team.

If we were to trade down, I think Philly would be the last team because we wouldn't get any 1st rounder in return. We're also not going to get the likes of Simone Gagne in the trade, I don't know that there's any player on that roster we could land that would be worth giving up who we'd get at 12. Furthermore why would a parennial playoff team give a player of that calibre up.

If we did trade down, I wouldn't want to go any further than about 17. That would assure us of still getting someone like o'neil, green, lisin, or if worst comes to worst montoya or schwartz. But honestly, if we were to fall from 12 to 17, with this draft, I'd want no less than the 25th pick in return, or equivalent prospect. That won't happen.

If we traded the pick for a quality veteran, that would also mean we could all but write off O'Sullivan's chances of starting the season with the big club. We already have some tough decisions to make next Fall if nobody more than Laaksonen, Park, and Wiemer/E. Chouinard leave.

All in all twelve is a good spot. If we can use our arsenal of 4th and 5th rounders to move up in the second to get a guy like Hedman or move up from our third pick to get Wheeler, I'd be very, very pleased.

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