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04-27-2010, 11:49 AM
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Banana Phone, have you heard anything from your sources about Willie?

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04-27-2010, 12:03 PM
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Why are people excited about cement hands coming back into the lineup?

So he can slide all over the ice on the PK, and have campbell/keith/seabrook fake a slap shot, step around him and feed someone on the wing?

johnson has been useless in the two years we've had him. his shot blocking is too well known now, and he is easy to fake out. he has cement hands because his hands/fingers have been broken so many times.

keep going with the lineup we have. hope rome can get back for round 2!

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04-27-2010, 12:06 PM
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Mitchell over Alberts would be huge. Even if he only played 10 mins a game to get back into gear. The boost that would give the Canucks would be worth it in it's own.

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04-27-2010, 12:18 PM
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It sucks that Mitchell has been out for so long. It looks like Savard is cleared to play for the Bruins in the second round and he got KO'ed on a stretcher, which seemed much more serious than Mitchell's injury. He's had more time to recover 100%, and it looks like he's nowhere near close. Sucks

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04-27-2010, 01:00 PM
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RJ is on the ice right now. Everybody else is doing off ice training.

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04-27-2010, 01:11 PM
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It sucks that Mitchell has been out for so long. It looks like Savard is cleared to play for the Bruins in the second round and he got KO'ed on a stretcher, which seemed much more serious than Mitchell's injury. He's had more time to recover 100%, and it looks like he's nowhere near close. Sucks
PCS is unpredictable. Some players bounce back right away, others take a long time and some have their careers ended. The Moore brothers for example.

In Mitchell's case he has had concussions in the past and IMHO was concussed on the Boogaard hit the game before. The Malkin hit may well have been the dreaded Second Impact Syndrome where you get another concussion before the brain has had a chance to fully heal. That can magnify the damage and cause catastrophic injuries.

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04-27-2010, 05:16 PM
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Baumgarter and Rome are listed day to day.

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defenceman Aaron Rome has been skating on his own after being injured in game three against the Los Angeles Kings. He, along with Nolan Baumgartner, who has not yet skated on his own, are day-to-day with their injuries.
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/page.htm...id=van-news-cr

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04-27-2010, 06:18 PM
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Baumgarter and Rome are listed day to day.



http://canucks.nhl.com/club/page.htm...id=van-news-cr
Game 1 on Saturday, so lots of time for Rome to heal up.

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04-28-2010, 02:51 PM
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Per Dan Murphy tweeting from practise today:
Rome and Johnson skating with the team. Both (and Baumgartner) expected to travel to Chicago.


Sounds like Baumgartner's knee injury may not be as serious as first feared - it was reported earlier he was done for the season.

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05-03-2010, 12:34 PM
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Take this with a grain of salt, but from what I hear from within the Canucks, Willie will not be back this season no matter what. In addition, it also appears to be very likely that his career may in fact be over.

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05-03-2010, 12:41 PM
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Take this with a grain of salt, but from what I hear from within the Canucks, Willie will not be back this season no matter what. In addition, it also appears to be very likely that his career may in fact be over.
That has been the consensus in the Vancouver media reports for the past few weeks.

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05-03-2010, 01:23 PM
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Take this with a grain of salt, but from what I hear from within the Canucks, Willie will not be back this season no matter what. In addition, it also appears to be very likely that his career may in fact be over.
Jeez. First part's not unexpected, but the second part would be absolutely horrible if true. Poor Mitchell, I hope he's able to fully recover to at least live a normal life.

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05-03-2010, 05:15 PM
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Jeez. First part's not unexpected, but the second part would be absolutely horrible if true. Poor Mitchell, I hope he's able to fully recover to at least live a normal life.
During the Canucks Live Chat today I put the issue of Second Impact Syndrome from the initial Boogaard hit concussing Mitchell to Jason Botchford being terribly exacerbated by the relatively mild Malkin hit and he agreed that is what occurred.

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05-03-2010, 05:22 PM
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During the Canucks Live Chat today I put the issue of Second Impact Syndrome from the initial Boogaard hit concussing Mitchell to Jason Botchford being terribly exacerbated by the relatively mild Malkin hit and he agreed that is what occurred.
So long Willie.

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05-03-2010, 05:32 PM
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During the Canucks Live Chat today I put the issue of Second Impact Syndrome from the initial Boogaard hit concussing Mitchell to Jason Botchford being terribly exacerbated by the relatively mild Malkin hit and he agreed that is what occurred.
I have absolutely zero knowledge on this topic, but Second-impact Syndrome sounds terribly serious based on the Wikipedia page — seems unlikely given the circumstances and the progression so far.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-impact_syndrome

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Willie is now also listed as "Status: Injured reserve (consussion)" on canucks.com.

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05-03-2010, 06:36 PM
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I have absolutely zero knowledge on this topic, but Second-impact Syndrome sounds terribly serious based on the Wikipedia page — seems unlikely given the circumstances and the progression so far.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-impact_syndrome
The description of SIS I have seen is from recent sports concussion articles is quite different from the Wikipedia article which is based upon what seems to be out of date information. And seems to ignore what the CDC said regarding risk even at that time whe the report was prepared in 1997:
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Relative Risk. The risk for second impact syndrome should be considered in a variety of sports associated with likelihood of blows to the head, including boxing, football, ice or roller hockey, soccer, baseball, basketball, and snow skiing.

Neurologists say once a person suffers a concussion, he is as much as four times more likely to sustain a second one. Moreover, after several concussions, it takes less of a blow to cause the injury and requires more time to recover. Troy Aikman sustained 8 concussions that he publicly admits to, the last two occurred since January 1, 2000. According to league officials there are about 160 concussions in the N.F.L. and 70 in the NHL each year.
http://www.headinjury.com/sports.htm

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Second Impact Syndrome – The first concussion is bad enough. But one often overlooked aspect of concussions is second impact syndrome. According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), “A repeat concussion that occurs before the brain recovers from the first—usually within a short period of time (hours, days, or weeks)—can slow recovery or increase the likelihood of having long-term problems. In rare cases, repeat concussions can result in brain swelling, permanent brain damage, and even death. This more serious condition is called second impact syndrome.”

Second impact syndrome is a special concern for highly committed athletes who want to play very soon after sustaining a concussion. This is where the coach has to step up and do the right thing. The CDC advises, “Keep athletes with known or suspected concussions from play until they have been evaluated and given permission to return to play by a health care professional with experience in evaluating concussions. Remind your athletes: ‘It’s better to miss one game than the whole season.’”
http://www.tampabaylightningcare.com...m-concussions/

If Mitchell did sustain even a mild concussion on the Boogaard hit (the standard got his bell rung approach) then the second hit from Malkin could have had a much greater effect than if he was otherwise not neurologically compromised.

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05-03-2010, 06:55 PM
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The description of SIS I have seen is from recent sports concussion articles is quite different from the Wikipedia article which is based upon what seems to be out of date information. And seems to ignore what the CDC said regarding risk even at that time whe the report was prepared in 1997:

http://www.headinjury.com/sports.htm

Here is a description of the current thinking on SIS.

http://www.tampabaylightningcare.com...m-concussions/

If Mitchell did sustain even a mild concussion on the Boogaard hit (the standard got his bell rung approach) then the second hit from Malkin could have had a much greater effect than if he was otherwise not neurologically compromised.
Thanks. Very helpful information. As I said, I don't know anything about it, and given my lack of knowledge about the field, Wikipedia was the safest option to get some basic info.

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05-03-2010, 10:37 PM
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There is no way in hell Kesler is NOT injured.

He isn't grinding, isn't getting to the puck first, isn't doing much of anything.

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05-03-2010, 11:20 PM
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There is no way in hell Kesler is NOT injured.

He isn't grinding, isn't getting to the puck first, isn't doing much of anything.
False. He was good on the PK and a good on his defensive assignments. Kesler has not been doing much in the offensive zone, but not all the blame goes to him, since many passes his makes to Burrows, Burrows always misses it. Blame goes to Burrows as well.

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False. He was good on the PK and a good on his defensive assignments. Kesler has not been doing much in the offensive zone, but not all the blame goes to him, since many passes his makes to Burrows, Burrows always misses it. Blame goes to Burrows as well.
That line was pretty good tonight.

Oh and for an injured player, Kesler sure takes long even strength shifts (Burrows too) although the coaching staff doesn't seem to mind...

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I found Kesler, along with Raymond and Burrows, to be probably the best Canucks not named Luongo last night. I think Kesler's had a pretty darn good playoff so far.

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05-04-2010, 12:39 PM
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Gallagher speculating that perhaps Henrik has a bad groin.

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Late in the third period of Game 2 here Henrik was down on his knees during a stoppage in play by the Vancouver bench stretching out his groin and after the game he was in the medical room.

Further, Daniel kept pointing out that Henrik wasn't in the right place and didn't have the puck like he should with respect to the power play.
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Gallagher speculating that perhaps Henrik has a bad groin.


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I asked Brad Zeimer this during the Canucks chat and he didn't seem to think hank is injured. He just said Seabrook and Keith (seabrook in particular) did a better job of covering them.

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Yeah, Seabrook was a monster yesterday.

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