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09-10-2009, 06:40 PM
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I'd love to see the NJ Devils tender a 5 million dollar offersheet. Their 1st round pick would be a late pick and certainly not worth Kessel. It would screw the Bruins bad!

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Phil Kessel signs 10 year contract with leafs, 5m/yr
Leafs lose 4 first round picks as compensation.

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Ballsy is an adjective. No number is implied.

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Why haven't there been rumours about shipping out Bergeron and his contract?
nobody wants him or his contract. Not saying he's terrible, but there are serious questions regarding his health and his high contract combined with the cap going down makes him a tough pill to swallow for any team in the league.


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There is no way the team could bring in Kessel unless ownership were willing to take a loss this season.
Thats too bad.
I think Kessel is a good fit for the west.

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I'm personally hoping Phoenix manages to pick him up - mostly because, after the Blake Wheeler situation, it would be such sweet, sweet justice.
That is a lot of gas.

There is a required return on Kessel.

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09-10-2009, 06:49 PM
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I doubt he has received any. Teams don't low-ball players on offersheets. Why would they? You're basically ruining your credibility with whichever GM you're contending with, and might not even get the player in the process. You sour your relationship with that GM for nothing. And its highly doubtful that Kessel had an offersheet, didn't sign it, and is now begging for more.

My guess is hes fed up with Chiarelli, and is essentially telling every other GM that if they want to risk an offersheet, hes open to signing it.
What makes you think they are low-ball? Only the player/agent and the GM of the acquiring would know. Chia won't be told anything till he signs one.

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How are they dealing from a position of weakness? If someone offers them crap, and Boston says no, then what is the team going to do? Throw him an offersheet of less than 4M? Boston matches and trades three of there then 16 forwards. Offer him more than 3.9M? Boston gets good value for Kessel in the form of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder.
Because it's Sept 10th. IF Boston goes into the season with not enough cap space to match an offer sheet, they have 24 hrs I believe to make room or he's gone. That doesn't matter if they don't want him back. It makes a major difference if they do. Now, he could reasonably be put on LTIR which would allow the bruins to be over the cap until he returns which would help but it still poses the problem of having to make room for him.

A GM may try to take advantage of that and force a faster decision. Honestly I don't like games like this. Either negotiate in good faith or move the guy and be done with it.

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And the bidding war begins!

Can Kessel get to the $5.5 - $6.5 mil range/year?

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That's assuming that GM ever finds out. Given that he's a restricted free agent, I don't believe the Bruins must be notified of negotiations. I'm not sure about that, though, I'm just making an assumption. Anyway, I just have no idea why people get so bent out of shape about offer sheets. Phil Kessel is a restricted free agent. It says free agent right in the title. Why shouldn't he look for the best deal possible? Why shouldn't other teams kick the tires? It's the rules. There's nothing dishonest about playing by the rules.
Exactly. It's the same as when a player gets bashed for signing a huge contract.... as if any one of use wouldn't do the same thing. Sure, it's nice when a player takes a discount, but when it happens be damn sure that he's doing it for equally as selfish reasons as the guy who signs the huge contract. These are individuals, after all.

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NM I see what you did there.

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And the bidding war begins!

Can Kessel get to the $5.5 - $6.5 mil range/year?
1) As a UFA, with another repeat year like this, frankly yes
2) As a RFA, absolutley not. Boston would take the compensation in a second

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Offer sheets are legit.
Not according to Brian Burke. Or Dave Nonis.

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Leafs lose 4 first round picks as compensation.
Going by Burke's draft record in Vancouver that may not mean much to the Leafs.

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2009/...kessel_bruins/

He is denying that report. Which makes sense. Just wants a better offer according to his standars. Even though he does not really deserve that much I guess.

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Going by Burke's draft record in Vancouver that may not mean much to the Leafs.
Your on a roll !!!!

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Now, how does this affect his trade value????
Can Boston really trade him to a team say....columbus for example, when he can just wait it out and sign with another team....

Lets say toronto trades for him, then he turns around and signs an offer sheet with nashville....Thats, legal correct?

So now it would have to be a sign and trade, so boston would have to either take the 1,2,3 or just take less value because they want players that help now.....

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09-10-2009, 07:03 PM
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Phil Kessel signs 10 year contract with leafs, 5m/yr
That would give him a 10 million dollar cap hit if I understand the CBA correctly.

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That would give him a 10 million dollar cap hit if I understand the CBA correctly.
no, that would give him a 5 million dollar cap hit.

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Now, how does this affect his trade value????
Can Boston really trade him to a team say....columbus for example, when he can just wait it out and sign with another team....

Lets say toronto trades for him, then he turns around and signs an offer sheet with nashville....Thats, legal correct?

So now it would have to be a sign and trade, so boston would have to either take the 1,2,3 or just take less value because they want players that help now.....
He's an RFA. Any team in the league can negotiate with him freely. Nobody is going to trade for him unless they've spoken with his agent and feel confident that he'll sign an extension, immediately following his rights transfer.

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I have just one question: Does this devalue Heatley and possibly make it easier for Edmonton to trade for him?

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no, that would give him a 5 million dollar cap hit.
10 years x 5 million per year = 50 million


For an offer sheet longer than 5 years, the cap hit is equal to the total salary divided by 5 years.

50/5 = 10

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09-10-2009, 07:12 PM
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no, that would give him a 5 million dollar cap hit.
It's different when the contract is a signed offer sheet.

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10 years x 5 million per year = 50 million


For an offer sheet longer than 5 years, the cap hit is equal to the total salary divided by 5 years.

50/5 = 10
No that is just used to determine the compensation. If that offer sheet happened Peter Chiarelli would look like a genius.

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