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09-14-2009, 11:12 PM
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09-14-2009, 11:38 PM
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Offensively, one or both of Oduya/Martin.

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Marc Staal will put up 19 pts this year (thus improving his point total from 10 to 15 to 19 in his first three years) and, as a result, will continue to be labeled as an offensive d-man. rofl

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09-15-2009, 08:09 AM
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Marc Staal will put up 19 pts this year (thus improving his point total from 10 to 15 to 19 in his first three years) and, as a result, will continue to be labeled as an offensive d-man. rofl
Who labeled Staal as an offensive defenseman recently?

Coming out of juniors there was talk that he had offensive upside because he did put up a few good offensive seasons in Sudbury including a season where he had 49 points in 57 games. [Hockey DB]

But, in NY he has never been used in that way - rarely if ever getting PP time

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09-15-2009, 08:55 AM
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Cant remember a time ANYBODY said Staal was an offensive Dman... yet another NJD fan acting like an ass for no reason.

Im just expecting Callahan to pop in about... 28 this year.

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09-15-2009, 09:40 AM
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09-15-2009, 09:52 AM
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+1 Okposo is going to be a beast
Yeah, that's who I had predicted in my article. Plus it will be a major help playing alongside Tavares. I'm expecting him to get 25 goals this season

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09-15-2009, 03:57 PM
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For the Flyers Emery, Carle, Briere, Giroux, JVR, and Pyorala all have shots at surprising people this year. Of course they won't all have breakout years, but I'll be surprised if all of them don't.

So far all have been very impressive at camp. JVR has been tearing it up in camp and at the Caps rookie game. Pyorala has great chemistry with Hartnell and Carter. Carle seems to work very well with Pronger (although I suspect that's more Pronger then Carle). A line of JVR-Giroux-Briere seems very plausible at this point as they have impressed at camp so far. Emery has brought his A game to camp and is coming off a great year in the KHL.

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09-15-2009, 05:08 PM
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For the Flyers Emery, Briere, all have shots at surprising people this year. Of course they won't all have breakout years, but I'll be surprised if all of them don't.


Briere: See 2006-2007
Emery: See 2006-2007

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09-15-2009, 05:16 PM
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Giroux or JvR if you ask me.

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09-15-2009, 06:02 PM
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Well in their cases it would be rebound years instead of breakout years, but a rebound year isn't that much different from a breakout year.

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09-15-2009, 06:07 PM
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Cant remember a time ANYBODY said Staal was an offensive Dman... yet another NJD fan acting like an ass for no reason.

Im just expecting Callahan to pop in about... 28 this year.
Interesting, so Jonathon rambling on about his offensive ability on our board was just a figment of my imagination.

Not acting like an ass, just repeating what was said.

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09-15-2009, 06:20 PM
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Well in their cases it would be rebound years instead of breakout years, but a rebound year isn't that much different from a breakout year.
Ugh what? That makes no sense, a breakout year is playing far above previously attained. A rebound year is basicly just a good year, it's nothing alike.

You just wanted to post that some flyers will have a good year, and you thought well I might just ninja this thread.

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09-15-2009, 06:27 PM
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Ugh what? That makes no sense, a breakout year is playing far above previously attained. A rebound year is basicly just a good year, it's nothing alike.

You just wanted to post that some flyers will have a good year, and you thought well I might just ninja this thread.
That's not how I view a rebound year at least. In rebound and breakout years players perform to the best of their abilities usually. I came in here because I did want to mention all those guys. I did, at least, admit that only one or two of those guys would surprise this year.

Briere is coming off an injured year and he's been criticized about his contract for a while so if he comes in and manages to play at a PPG in a healthy season then that's most definitely a rebound year for him. Emery is coming off a year in the KHL and the public opinion isn't very high of him as well so most people don't expect him to do well (despite good numbers last year and proven ability).

I'm just excited for hockey at this point.

I guess it would be fairer to say that Briere will probably "earn his contract" this year and that Emery has a shot at surprising and earning a spot in the NHL.

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09-15-2009, 06:48 PM
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Interesting, so Jonathon rambling on about his offensive ability on our board was just a figment of my imagination.

Not acting like an ass, just repeating what was said.
owned.

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09-15-2009, 06:52 PM
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owned.
When people start saying "owned" on these boards it might be my cue to pack it in...

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When people start saying "owned" on these boards it might be my cue to pack it in...
no it's when it turns to "pwned"

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09-15-2009, 10:22 PM
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no it's when it turns to "pwned"
I thought 'pwned' was when the thought begins to set in, and 'pwnasaurus rex' is when you pack it in and get the fudge out

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09-15-2009, 11:32 PM
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your name is still babycakes92689. but wait owned

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Absolutely not.
Great point.

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09-16-2009, 06:21 AM
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Not owned.

It was a stupid post that paints the NYR fans as having claimed Staal was an offensive Dman, when ONE guy said he's got more offensive skill than shown... and that's not off-base, either.

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09-16-2009, 08:22 AM
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Yeah no one's going to mistake Staal for a legitimate offensive defenseman.

However he does have enough skill to put up moderate points, but nothing flashy

He may have a "breakout" year this year by turning into the Rangers #1 defenseman and leading them in all areas except PP time, though

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Considering how awesome JvR is doing and also the linemates he will have, he's going to break out like crazy.

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09-16-2009, 08:56 AM
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Absolutely not.
You will have to excuse Penguin fans. Any 3rd liner who puts up a decent amount of points automatically qualifies him as someone who will definitely be a top 6 forward. To get to that point you just use the formula below:

3rd Liner With Decent Point Total + More Ice Time + Playing With Crosby or Malkin = All Star

Kennedy is just one and the current of the many players who have been inserted into this formula.

For some it's hard to realize the difference between a good 3rd liner to someone with actually top 6 talent.


To answer the original question though... Letang.

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Considering how awesome JvR is doing and also the linemates he will have, he's going to break out like crazy.
If they can fit him under the cap? Does anyone know what his cap number would be? Staal was drafted in the same spot the year before and his rookie contract cap hit was somewhere around 2.3-2.6 mil. The Flyer's only have 2.157 mil left and that's w/o a 7th Dman and only 11 forwards. I kind of thought JVR had no chance cause of the cap.

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