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09-19-2009, 12:44 PM
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Wally the Lapointe contract was out of this world. I still have not found my socks.

Rosie must be still to this day.
True...

the comparison though is that so far I haven't heard knowledgable people claim Kessel deal was a bargain. Quite the contrary due to his style and sample size.

Also didn't appear to be a huge market at that price as well as term.

There are some similarities that can't be denied.

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ah crap and we didnt even get ian white in the deal?

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Hmmm, establishing an internal salary structure, eh? Sounds like another team we have in town. They have been pretty successful in their own right in the last 10 years or so, with a solid coach who is on the same page as management in terms of player evaluation, value, and contracts. I think they won 3 championships, and came damn close a few other years......

Sound familiar?
Not to mention the Red Sox who have been known in recent years for being stingy with aging veterans and very generous with players with skillsets they develop or value.

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What would be more dangerous is giving into Kessel's demands of 5.4MIL.

Imagine negotiations with Wheeler and Lucic when their agents knew Chia shelled out 5.4MIL for Kessel?
I agree....I'm just wondering if 3.75mil is the unofficial cap for 2nd contracts in Boston...

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I agree....I'm just wondering if 3.75mil is the unofficial cap for 2nd contracts in Boston...
I doubt it. They factor in everything, including the way David viewed the money. He couldn't get over the fact that he was going to make $3.75M to play hockey, so it obviously wasn't terribly important to him. It's a player-to-player judgement that I think the brass is good at making.

Lucic might have the same mentality, or he might want more, and I think the B's can make the necessary adjustments to get him signed. One thing I do know is they place more value on him then they did on Kessel, so if their cap for Kessel was $4M, the one for Looch will likely be higher than that.

And maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think Looch is going to want/ask for more than that.

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Krejci was this year's bar.
Next year's bar will be different and it will be set by Lucic...... and Wheeler isn't getting any more than that.
Agree with this, Randy...and the market is set by what another team is willing to fork over for guys like Kessel -- or Lucic and Wheeler next season. This was why trying to pin $3.5 million as a legit comp number for Kessel was an exercise in futility -- and why you'll all of the sudden be hearing nasty things about Lucic or Wheeler on their way out the door next year if somebody else breaks the bank for them. The NHL is changing, and RFAs are getting a lot more money in their second contracts now.

It would be foolish to draw a line in the sand with an RFA contract this year (like Krejci), and then try to dictate that towards next year's crop of RFAs under different circumstances. This is about the salary cap and spin with Kessel, and not much else.

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Kessell's deal indicates that Krejci has a lousy agent.
No, it means that Krejci wants to play in Boston, and Kessel did not.

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