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09-19-2009, 04:11 PM
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Kessel asked out of Boston as early as July

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=291746

BOSTON -- The Bruins did their best to keep restricted free agent Phil Kessel before giving in to his desire to be traded and making a deal with Toronto.

"This is not about frugality," Boston general manager Peter Chiarelli said on Saturday. "There were some significant offers made."

Chiarelli said Kessel told him in July he no longer wanted to play in Boston, and the Bruins traded the rights to the 21-year-old former first-round pick to the Maple Leafs for Toronto's first-round picks in each of the next two drafts plus the Leafs' second-round pick in 2010.

If this is true, then Chia did well to get maximum return for a player who didn't want to be here. I suspected as much, but still wish Kessel good luck in Toronto. Not "Great" luck, but good luck...

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sounds like he never wanted to play here.

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sounds like he never wanted to play here.
Truth be told, they wanted the Swede to begin with. And it was a pretty steep dropoff from Kessel to Brassard.

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only if we were 2 or 3 teams worse, we'd have either Toews or Johnson. i like Kessel, but not the attitude he has, he is a great scorer.

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Well, then good riddance. I loved Kessel, but I don't like when players think they're bigger than the team they play on.

And, if serious offers (4 mil.) were made by Chiarelli, then I'm glad he got what he did, and I'm glad he signed for over 5, and I hope there's a time this year where Komisarek is standing in front of Kessel, and Lucic runs them both over.

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only if we were 2 or 3 teams worse, we'd have either Toews or Johnson. i like Kessel, but not the attitude he has, he is a great scorer.
All the picks we have now, we may still yet get Toews!

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In this article, it's implied that the genesis of Phil's disillusionment stemmed from his benching in the 2008 playoffs. If that's the case, or if it's a Phil vs. Claude philosophy thing, then, sorry Phil, but Claude wins that one.

Much as I like Phil, if his ego is as big as it is seeming to be as word leaks out here, then keeping him might have been more trouble than it would have been worth.

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In this article, it's implied that the genesis of Phil's disillusionment stemmed from his benching in the 2008 playoffs. If that's the case, or if it's a Phil vs. Claude philosophy thing, then, sorry Phil, but Claude wins that one.

Much as I like Phil, if his ego is as big as it is seeming to be as word leaks out here, then keeping him might have been more trouble than it would have been worth.
Kessell didn't express a desire to be traded until shortly after Chia tried to trade him at the June draft. Apparently Phil was offended by Chia's attempt to trade him.

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well, according to phil kessel..."I never once asked to be traded"

said that it seemed like a mutual understanding he should be moved.

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Kessell didn't express a desire to be traded until shortly after Chia tried to trade him at the June draft. Apparently Phil was offended by Chia's attempt to trade him.
And I'm sure Burke's lips were sealed over that whole ordeal

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well, according to phil kessel..."I never once asked to be traded"

said that it seemed like a mutual understanding he should be moved.
"I didn't dump her, we both agreed it would be better if we saw other people."

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I will defend Kessel even if he didn't want to play here. He was our premeire forward plain and simple, but all he got was bad mouth by the coach and everybody's favorite NHL BEAT writer (locally).

Then the coach always put him on the 2nd PP unit (which only gets 20-30% of PP time) and has threaten to bench him, etc.

Good for you Kessel. If you felt the B's coaching staff was treating you like they have, then asking for a trade may have been a career saving move.

If this is not true (Kessel really wanting out), then I wouldn't be surprise. The media in this town sticks (where have I heard this before) and they are full of negativity. The media wants to control the feelings of the fans and things it can be writing GARBAGE to stir up crap....

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All the picks we have now, we may still yet get Toews!
Muahahahahah

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I will defend Kessel even if he didn't want to play here. He was our premeire forward plain and simple, but all he got was bad mouth by the coach and everybody's favorite NHL BEAT writer (locally).

Then the coach always put him on the 2nd PP unit (which only gets 20-30% of PP time) and has threaten to bench him, etc.

Good for you Kessel. If you felt the B's coaching staff was treating you like they have, then asking for a trade may have been a career saving move.

If this is not true (Kessel really wanting out), then I wouldn't be surprise. The media in this town sticks (where have I heard this before) and they are full of negativity. The media wants to control the feelings of the fans and things it can be writing GARBAGE to stir up crap....
Kessel wanted 5 million bucks. For the right dough he'd be playing in Taiwan.

End of saga.

Good luck to the kid.

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Wait a minute, you WANTED him on the first PP unit?

Seriously, players get benched all the time due to poor form/attitude, in every league, at every age, not all of them pull up stumps and move to Toronto. I'd understand using benching as the excuse if Kess had come back and been petulant about it and played badly because he just didnt want to be there. But he had a great year. It may have been in his interests to have a great year, but nevertheless, its harder to do your job well when you aren't happy doing it.

I think most of it stems from the leaked draft day thing and the B's inability to put up an offer that he and his agent thought was worthy. The combination of a low offer and an "almost" trade probably made Phil feel like he was getting the cold shoulder.

To make it clear, im actually quite happy with the way Chia has handled it. If what Chia says is true, and most teams were putting up a number similar to the B's for Phil to sign, its clear why there was no offersheet forthcoming, and why it became increasingly difficult to shift Kess to ANY team.

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well, according to phil kessel..."I never once asked to be traded"

said that it seemed like a mutual understanding he should be moved.


I saw that too. I laughed and laughed.

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I will defend Kessel even if he didn't want to play here. He was our premeire forward plain and simple, but all he got was bad mouth by the coach and everybody's favorite NHL BEAT writer (locally).
I cant remember Julien ever bad mouthing him. Even Dupont (who is not a beat writer) never really bad mouthed him.

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Then the coach always put him on the 2nd PP unit (which only gets 20-30% of PP time) and has threaten to bench him, etc.
And I bet you had him on your 1st line unit on NHL 09, didnt you!?

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Good for you Kessel. If you felt the B's coaching staff was treating you like they have, then asking for a trade may have been a career saving move.
Not likely as his career was just going fine. He will get paid a lot more though.

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If this is not true (Kessel really wanting out), then I wouldn't be surprise. The media in this town sticks (where have I heard this before) and they are full of negativity. The media wants to control the feelings of the fans and things it can be writing GARBAGE to stir up crap...
What does "the media in this town sticks" mean? Sticks what?

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Weren't we mad when (he who will not be named) DIDN'T get benched?....

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I saw that too. I laughed and laughed.
Why is it funny though? He has been rumored in deals for two straight deadlines and was openly almost dealt at the draft. Now Chiarelli said he doesnt want to come back and it is all on Phil? Really?

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good. friggin. riddance. I was disappionted when he was traded, but upon reading this....I now am glad that his ass is gonzo.

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Kessel had 42 goals in 81 games (including playoffs) last season. Yeah, that will be easy to replace.

Any 18 year old picked in the 2010 or 2011 draft should be able to do that before turning 22.

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I will defend Kessel even if he didn't want to play here. He was our premeire forward plain and simple, but all he got was bad mouth by the coach and everybody's favorite NHL BEAT writer (locally).

Then the coach always put him on the 2nd PP unit (which only gets 20-30% of PP time) and has threaten to bench him, etc.

Good for you Kessel. If you felt the B's coaching staff was treating you like they have, then asking for a trade may have been a career saving move.

If this is not true (Kessel really wanting out), then I wouldn't be surprise. The media in this town sticks (where have I heard this before) and they are full of negativity. The media wants to control the feelings of the fans and things it can be writing GARBAGE to stir up crap....
Maybe you and Phil can share the same tissue box

Kessel was asked to put effort towards rounding out his game and he never looked better after Julien benched him.

We'll see if Phil has any tissues left after dealing with Ron Wilson who's two-times the hard ass Claude is as far as benching players.

I have ZERO sympathy for him

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I will defend Kessel even if he didn't want to play here. He was our premeire forward plain and simple, but all he got was bad mouth by the coach and everybody's favorite NHL BEAT writer (locally).

Then the coach always put him on the 2nd PP unit (which only gets 20-30% of PP time) and has threaten to bench him, etc.

Good for you Kessel. If you felt the B's coaching staff was treating you like they have, then asking for a trade may have been a career saving move.

If this is not true (Kessel really wanting out), then I wouldn't be surprise. The media in this town sticks (where have I heard this before) and they are full of negativity. The media wants to control the feelings of the fans and things it can be writing GARBAGE to stir up crap....



Boo... ***...Hoo

He took the money over the team and the possibility of winning something and learning to be a complete player. He didn't choose the blue and white over the Black and Gold, he chose the green.

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Kessel had 42 goals in 81 games (including playoffs) last season. Yeah, that will be easy to replace.

Any 18 year old picked in the 2010 or 2011 draft should be able to do that before turning 22.
Stoopid salary cap. . .

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I will defend Kessel even if he didn't want to play here. He was our premeire forward plain and simple, but all he got was bad mouth by the coach and everybody's favorite NHL BEAT writer (locally).

Then the coach always put him on the 2nd PP unit (which only gets 20-30% of PP time) and has threaten to bench him, etc.

Good for you Kessel. If you felt the B's coaching staff was treating you like they have, then asking for a trade may have been a career saving move.

If this is not true (Kessel really wanting out), then I wouldn't be surprise. The media in this town sticks (where have I heard this before) and they are full of negativity. The media wants to control the feelings of the fans and things it can be writing GARBAGE to stir up crap....
That would be awfully sad if Boston's premier forward was 3rd on the team in points and did nothing in terms of leadership or defensive play.

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