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09-20-2009, 10:37 AM
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thank god, they both sucked.

Voros at least can be of some use.

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Rissmiller can't catch a break... Arnason must be brutal. He didn't appear in one PS Game.
The scary part is......he did play in a Preseason Game. He was just so unnoticeable and transparent it didn't seem like he was out there.

Good riddance to both. When you get outplayed by Aaron Voros you know you have no place in the NHL>

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thank god, they both sucked.

Voros at least can be of some use.
Voros during pre-season reminds me of Hollweg. Skating around hitting everything that moves (minus the boarding) then getting pummeled in a fight. He's Hollweg minus the dumb penalties which might not be a bad thing for a 4th liner playing with Brashear and Boyle.

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09-20-2009, 10:55 AM
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God save the queen!

Now all we need is Redden and Rozy on waivers and we'll be good to go!

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Well they don't have to clog up Hartford, they could throw them down to the ECHL.
No they can't. The CBA prevents players on NHL contracts from being dumped in the ECHL without their consent.

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09-20-2009, 02:55 PM
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Oh boy, I can't wait to watch these two guys in Hartford.

Not that Rissmiller doesn't help, but he's so painful to watch play. Uninterested bystander who racks up assists and garbage goals.

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09-20-2009, 04:01 PM
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No they can't. The CBA prevents players on NHL contracts from being dumped in the ECHL without their consent.
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9.7 Loans to East Coast Hockey League. Players who are party to an Entry Level
SPC may be Loaned to the East Coast Hockey League ("ECHL") without the requirement
of Player consent, provided the Player will continue to be paid the stated amount of the
AHL portion of his two-way SPC in the Native Currency of the NHL Club
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Oh boy, I can't wait to watch these two guys in Hartford.

Not that Rissmiller doesn't help, but he's so painful to watch play. Uninterested bystander who racks up assists and garbage goals.
Florida/Rochester talked to Anaheim about the Ducks loaning players to Rochester but

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The Orange County Register reported that the Anaheim Ducks will send a good chunk of their prospects to the San Antonio Rampage, with the other players going to two or three teams in the Midwest.

The Ducks and Florida Panthers havenít had additional conversations about Anaheim players coming to Rochester.
http://php.democratandchronicle.com/blog/sports2/?p=373

The Rangers could loan Rissmiller and/or Arnason to Rochester.

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09-20-2009, 05:19 PM
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13.18 The request for Regular, Re-Entry and Uncondit ional Waivers to Central
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The Rangers could loan Rissmiller and/or Arnason to Rochester.
I'm sure the Rangers would be willing to loan them out, it's a question of whether the teams needing players for their AHL teams would want the players the Rangers are willing to loan--especially in the case of Rissmiller, who took his demotion so well last season.

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I'm sure the Rangers would be willing to loan them out, it's a question of whether the teams needing players for their AHL teams would want the players the Rangers are willing to loan--especially in the case of Rissmiller, who took his demotion so well last season.
Exactly. And Arnason is a bit of a headcase as well.

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09-20-2009, 10:16 PM
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Exactly. And Arnason is a bit of a headcase as well.
There's plenty of of hard-working veteran AHL players who can be signed (or cheaply traded for) to provide a "veteran" presence on a minor league team. It's a pipe-dream to think that the Ranger organization will somehow manage to dump its mistakes on someone else.

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09-21-2009, 06:21 AM
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There's plenty of of hard-working veteran AHL players who can be signed (or cheaply traded for) to provide a "veteran" presence on a minor league team. It's a pipe-dream to think that the Ranger organization will somehow manage to dump its mistakes on someone else.
I read Manitoba is looking to add players on loan. Perhaps Rissmiller wants to spend his winter freezing his ass off in Winnipeg. As Slats told Johnny MacLean when he was assigned to Manitoba in 2000,"Buy a warm coat". Rissmiller is making $1 million in salary this season and next. Rochester is run by Ted Nolan who likes players like Rissmiller. The CBA doesn't prevent the Rangers from assigning or loaning Rissmiller to an AHL team. The Rangers still pay the player salary.

Arnason is a Manitoba boy.Born in Oklahoma City because his father played minor league hockey there. Raised in Winnipeg.

Rochester/Florida did speak to Anaheim about players being loaned to Rochester.Dallas didn't have an AHL team last season so they loaned some of their players to Manitoba.Dallas has their own team this season.

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09-21-2009, 06:35 AM
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Exactly. And Arnason is a bit of a headcase as well.
headcase?

headcase like avery or headcase like chris simon?

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09-21-2009, 06:41 AM
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Still don't get it.
This is a guy (Arnason) who was able to score points with 2 different organizations.

getting a 50-60 pt scorer in the NHL for 700 grand must be worth a decent try.....

I guess I haven't seen him skate in camp. still....

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09-21-2009, 07:16 AM
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headcase?

headcase like avery or headcase like chris simon?
Headcase as in he has serious issues with his attitude and maturity. I also question his desire. The talent is there, but he's become such a little ***** over the past few seasons. He ought to either grow up or hang them up.

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Headcase as in he has serious issues with his attitude and maturity. I also question his desire. The talent is there, but he's become such a little ***** over the past few seasons. He ought to either grow up or hang them up.
There is no question that he has the skill-set to be a productive player in the league. He was pre-lockout with Bell and Calder in Chicago.

Even watching him with Colorado the past 3 seasons, he's a good player with the puck, and has a nice set of hands. However, he's just too damn lazy and refuses to play two-way hockey, and refuses to get physically involved. Shame that his talent is going to waste.

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Still don't get it.
This is a guy (Arnason) who was able to score points with 2 different organizations.

getting a 50-60 pt scorer in the NHL for 700 grand must be worth a decent try.....

I guess I haven't seen him skate in camp. still....
Mark bell and Dave Scatchard had 20 goal seasons under their belt as well, neither came close to cracking our lineup.

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I read Manitoba is looking to add players on loan. Perhaps Rissmiller wants to spend his winter freezing his ass off in Winnipeg. As Slats told Johnny MacLean when he was assigned to Manitoba in 2000,"Buy a warm coat". Rissmiller is making $1 million in salary this season and next. Rochester is run by Ted Nolan who likes players like Rissmiller. The CBA doesn't prevent the Rangers from assigning or loaning Rissmiller to an AHL team. The Rangers still pay the player salary.

Arnason is a Manitoba boy.Born in Oklahoma City because his father played minor league hockey there. Raised in Winnipeg.

Rochester/Florida did speak to Anaheim about players being loaned to Rochester.Dallas didn't have an AHL team last season so they loaned some of their players to Manitoba.Dallas has their own team this season.
So, Sather can choose to loan a player without Manitoba consent? Because what I'm trying to get across is that Manitoba may not want the players that Sather is willing to loan, not that the concept of a loan is against the CBA.

Sather may think he's the wizzard, but often times his wand is not working. If it were so easy to make Rissmiller disappear he would have done it by now.

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With tight economic conditions across minor league hockey, players who come in on NHL contracts (from another team) should be able to find a home. I know the Coyotes went looking for someone to help stock San Antonio because of the relatively low number of contracts they have. That's being driven by $.

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So, Sather can choose to loan a player without Manitoba consent? Because what I'm trying to get across is that Manitoba may not want the players that Sather is willing to loan, not that the concept of a loan is against the CBA.

Sather may think he's the wizzard, but often times his wand is not working. If it were so easy to make Rissmiller disappear he would have done it by now.
Who said Sather did not have work out the details with Manitoba?

Some hate Sather so much that it clouds their thinking.

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With tight economic conditions across minor league hockey, players who come in on NHL contracts (from another team) should be able to find a home. I know the Coyotes went looking for someone to help stock San Antonio because of the relatively low number of contracts they have. That's being driven by $.
Anaheim is sending players to SA and some players to Manitoba.

http://ducks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?i...id=ana-home-dl

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Who said Sather did not have work out the details with Manitoba?

Some hate Sather so much that it clouds their thinking.
So, you haven't seen anything out there even suggesting that Sather is actually talking to another organization about loaning a player to another AHL team. It's just a possibility.

The devil is in the details.

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Still don't get it.
This is a guy (Arnason) who was able to score points with 2 different organizations.

getting a 50-60 pt scorer in the NHL for 700 grand must be worth a decent try.....

I guess I haven't seen him skate in camp. still....
Arnason was probably the worst full-time NHL'er last year. Just brutal to watch.

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