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12-29-2009, 03:19 PM
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Hagman would be the perfect fit for LA moving forward, hes a good 2-way player who isnt afraid to go into corners and fight for the puck. He also has an underrated skill set that could put him in 30 goal range in a perfect situation.
Hagman is also 30-years old, and i doubt Burke is looking to amass a number of picks, so you have got to be very careful about your reserves list and where you will draw from to make that acquisition.

he's also signed for like another 3 years or something, so there's that to consider as well.

Poni on the other hand is done at the end of the year, i think.

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12-29-2009, 03:20 PM
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Is Doug Weight too old for the 1st line?

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12-29-2009, 03:22 PM
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Is Doug Weight too old for the 1st line?
Too old, too hurt. Point-every-other-game type of guy at this point in his career.

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12-29-2009, 03:28 PM
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Mathieu Schneider has been put on waivers. I can't imagine him clearing... I wonder where he is going to end up? Just something interesting for others to watch...
Him please. I don't care how many D-men we have already have.

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12-29-2009, 03:29 PM
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Hagman is also 30-years old, and i doubt Burke is looking to amass a number of picks, so you have got to be very careful about your reserves list and where you will draw from to make that acquisition.

he's also signed for like another 3 years or something, so there's that to consider as well.

Poni on the other hand is done at the end of the year, i think.
Hagman has two years left at 3 per. Pretty cheap for his production of you ask me, he's pretty underrated when it comes to scoring he has a really quick release on his shot. Him or Poni would be a pretty good option for the injured Williams IMO. I wouldn't mind getting Purcell and a 2nd OR Tuebert and something.

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12-29-2009, 03:32 PM
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You forget how many times other teams have taken advantage of our players without any kind of retribution or payback. We need a couple guys out there for police-ing reasons. The less comfortable we make the other team, the more space we give to our scorers. And I'm not talking about Ivanans. I'm also talking about guys with speed. Guys like Carcillo or Grier are who I mean when I say toughness. You can have toughness and some skill mixed in too, ya know. It's not just one or the other. Moller or Purcell are simply not those guys. And with the limited amount of minutes they would play, Oscar and Teddy wouldn't be scoring much anyway. In that capacity, they are nearly useless in the long-term. I agree with you when you emphasize a balanced team. Balanced, yes, absolutely. But that doesn't just apply to scoring.
We don't need to payback them.....
The guys in black/white doing that.
And that is exactly what happens if fast skilled players meet Ivanans/Boogards...
It end's in a hooking or tripping call.
Our Players needs to grow some balls. Hockey is a body demanding sport.
Mr. Kopitar still doesn't learned it yet.
If you see him walking around in slow motion and puck possesion, sometimes you wish
a guys like JJ would realy crush him. Someone has to teach 'em to use their bodys.
The best think to do is to remove the bodyguards and use speed and skill to play

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12-29-2009, 05:07 PM
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Not buying into the rumors very much considering the source.

but...

I'd be happy to pick up Poni or Hagman.

Schnieder might be a good PP QB pick up for us this year.

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12-29-2009, 06:01 PM
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Not buying into the rumors very much considering the source.

but...

I'd be happy to pick up Poni or Hagman.

Schnieder might be a good PP QB pick up for us this year.
I cant see the Kings trading anybody besides Frolov and Purcell and I cant see the Leafs being interested in either. I guess thinking a little outside the box if Atlanta is shopping around Little maybe there could be something worked out there. Maybe, Poni and Hagman to the Kings, Frolov to the Thrashers, Little to the Leafs, with draft picks being added to satisfy any side who feels slighted by the deal? 2 Wingers to the Kings to replace Williams and Frolov, the Thrashers get a top winger to make a playoff push/satisfy Kovalchuk, the Leafs get a solid prospect. Is this too unrealistic?

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12-29-2009, 06:03 PM
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Poni could possibly be had for a 2nd, and a late round pick, likely a 5th. He won't be moved for another expiring contract.
I would make that deal, no problem.

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12-29-2009, 06:06 PM
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I would make that deal, no problem.
Maybe the Leafs pull the trigger on this deal at 3:59pm of the trade deadline. I dont see the Leafs being overly satisfied by trading a top 6 forward for a late second round pick that odds are wont amount to anything close to a player of Poni's calibre.

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12-29-2009, 06:35 PM
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Brian Burke doesn't strike me as a guy who would be gaga for Frolov.

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Brian Burke doesn't strike me as a guy who would be gaga for Frolov.
Same here. That, and I don't see him moving Poni, or Hagman for a guy on an expiring contract, which I believe Frolov has. I think if he moves either player, it's to clear the cap space, and add draft picks. We currently don't have a 1st, or a 2nd this coming draft, so he'll try to fix that problem.

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12-29-2009, 08:19 PM
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We don't need to payback them.....
The guys in black/white doing that.

And that is exactly what happens if fast skilled players meet Ivanans/Boogards...
It end's in a hooking or tripping call.
Our Players needs to grow some balls. Hockey is a body demanding sport.
Mr. Kopitar still doesn't learned it yet.
If you see him walking around in slow motion and puck possesion, sometimes you wish
a guys like JJ would realy crush him. Someone has to teach 'em to use their bodys.
The best think to do is to remove the bodyguards and use speed and skill to play
Oh ye of too much faith

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12-29-2009, 08:20 PM
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If he is clearing cap space it would be for next year, which is exactly why he would want an expiring contract. Fills the roster spot but leaves it and the cap space open next year.

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12-29-2009, 08:39 PM
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It please me to hear that Atlanta scouts were in attendance at the Minny game last night. With Kovalchuk apparently unable to come to terms on a contract in ATL, well, you do the math.

I would trade Brown and whatever in a second for Kovalchuk. Brown is looking to barely crack 20 goals this year. Ugh.

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12-29-2009, 09:03 PM
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Regardless of Brown's "strange" offensive numbers this year, he's a player the kings should keep.

No Brown trade...

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12-29-2009, 09:12 PM
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Regardless of Brown's "strange" offensive numbers this year, he's a player the kings should keep.

No Brown trade...
Exactly. And has anyone actually seen Kovalchuk play since the contract talks have supposedly hit a snag? He's playing like a big whiny baby.

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12-29-2009, 09:36 PM
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If we were to acquire Kovy, it would have to be via trade because I don't see it happening otherwise.

And as sad as it may be, Brown will likely be the center piece of the trade.

Brown, Frolov, Voynov, Moller and Schenn/1st or something close to that should get it done.

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12-29-2009, 09:41 PM
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If we were to acquire Kovy, it would have to be via trade because I don't see it happening otherwise.

And as sad as it may be, Brown will likely be the center piece of the trade.

Brown, Frolov, Voynov, Moller and Schenn/1st or something close to that should get it done.
Well then, it won't happen if that's what it takes.

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12-29-2009, 09:45 PM
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If we were to acquire Kovy, it would have to be via trade because I don't see it happening otherwise.

And as sad as it may be, Brown will likely be the center piece of the trade.

Brown, Frolov, Voynov, Moller and Schenn/1st or something close to that should get it done.
for an UFA ?????

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12-29-2009, 09:47 PM
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for an UFA ?????
Stop it with this ufa nonsense! DL or any other GM isn't going to make any deal unless they already have an extension in place.

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12-29-2009, 09:50 PM
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If we were to acquire Kovy, it would have to be via trade because I don't see it happening otherwise.

And as sad as it may be, Brown will likely be the center piece of the trade.

Brown, Frolov, Voynov, Moller and Schenn/1st or something close to that should get it done.
Were selling the farm on one player. I'd rather do a stabilizing trade and make the playoffs this year. Then let our young talent fill in as contracts on players like Zues, Stoll, Williams and Smyth run their terms. If we were going to throw that much for a player I'd rather let it be Stamkos or something of that caliber.

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We got ***** in the Gretzky trade, I hope and pray the Kings aren't stupid enough to do something similar for Kovalchuk.

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12-29-2009, 09:54 PM
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Were selling the farm on one player. I'd rather do a stabilizing trade and make the playoffs this year. Then let our young talent fill in as contracts on players like Zues, Stoll, Williams and Smyth run their terms. If we were going to throw that much for a player I'd rather let it be Stamkos or something of that caliber.
No way Stamkos commands that much in a trade.

Kovy is an elite player and with an elite player, you need to give up real value. Besides, Voynov and Moller are easily replaceable and won't be an impact player for another few years. If anything, it's Schenn, I would have difficulty letting go.

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We got ***** in the Gretzky trade, I hope and pray the Kings aren't stupid enough to do something similar for Kovalchuk.
How so? We gave up Carson, Gelinas and few other picks. It was mainly cash we gave up. If anything, we made out like bandits on the Gretzky deal.

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