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10-25-2011, 08:15 PM
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I saw Sedona when I was twelve and found it breathtaking, and I was a very jaded 12-year-old (if you can believe it!).

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10-25-2011, 10:31 PM
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Anything. Hole in the wall and up. Only restriction is probably attire... I'll be packing light and casual, so wouldn't be able to do mandatory jacket or something like that. I'd happily sit in mud if the food is excellent, but if there's must-have southwestern with a $50 main I'd consider it (hopefully that main is a 28oz dry aged rib steak).
I'm not usually fond of southwestern food, but these 3 are good (I've been to all 3, liked them all):

Roaring fork:
http://www.voiceplaces.com/roaring-f...nix-2556756-l/

Cowboy Ciao:
http://www.voiceplaces.com/cowboy-ci...nix-2567939-l/

Chelsea's Kitchen:
http://www.voiceplaces.com/chelseas-...nix-2547415-l/

Here's a good list - when in doubt the Phoenix New Times is usually a good reference:

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/resta...h/criticspick:[1]/recommended:[1]/cuisine:[Southwestern]/

EDIT: there's also z-tejas. I thought it was a national chain, but it looks like it was started here. Been there once 10 years ago, it was pretty good, and affordable.

http://tempe.ztejas.com/

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10-25-2011, 11:14 PM
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OOOOH I actually completely forgot about this one - tiny, hole-in-the-wall kind of place, but awesome new-mexican food:

Dick's hideaway (second restaurant on the left-hand menu):
http://www.richardsonsnm.com/

map: http://g.co/maps/tb27x

The tenderloin benedict (on the breakfast menu, served all day) is the bomb. Everything else is good as well.

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10-25-2011, 11:20 PM
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What are the best hotels in Old Town Scottsdale?

We found the DoubleTree Resort Hilton which would cost 220$ per night.

Are there anything as close but cheaper?

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10-25-2011, 11:25 PM
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What are the best hotels in Old Town Scottsdale?

We found the DoubleTree Resort Hilton which would cost 220$ per night.

Are there anything as close but cheaper?
If you're looking for a deal, Scottsdale is going to be expensive. The best deals are going to be around the airport, and I'd just use Priceline for that (the name-your-own-price thing). You'll be centrally located, and everything in town will be within a 15-30 minute drive.

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10-25-2011, 11:30 PM
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We're looking to stay at Old Town Scottsdale.

220$ per night to me is not that expensive, we're going to be 4.

But I found a cheaper one, Hilton Garden Inn Scottsdale Old Town.

Both are kinda far away from each other tho.

Which one is the closest to the hot places of Old Town?

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10-25-2011, 11:37 PM
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We're looking to stay at Old Town Scottsdale.

220$ per night to me is not that expensive, we're going to be 4.

But I found a cheaper one, Hilton Garden Inn Scottsdale Old Town.

Both are kinda far away from each other tho.

Which one is the closest to the hot places of Old Town?
Garden Inn is in Old Town. The other one is not, you'd be a mile away.

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10-25-2011, 11:45 PM
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What about the Betty's shotgun? Seems close enough to that hotel and seems like a lot of fun might happen there.

Looks to me like a red neck bar hahaha

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10-26-2011, 03:16 AM
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EDIT: there's also z-tejas. I thought it was a national chain, but it looks like it was started here. Been there once 10 years ago, it was pretty good, and affordable.

http://tempe.ztejas.com/
Also home to the best Chambord Margaritas!!!!

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10-26-2011, 12:36 PM
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Urban Hikes

Seb,

There are some excellent urban hikes as well, that put you right in the natural desert/mountain setting, that are challenging and close to where you will be staying.

http://www.phoenixasap.com/camelback-mountain.html

http://www.toddshikingguide.com/Hike...oenix/Phx4.htm

The first "Camelback Mountain" is the more difficult trail and one the the Coyotes have hiked during camps.

The second "Squaw / Piestewa Peak" is a little less strenuous (the last third is a workout if your in moderate condition) and also offers a "circumferance trail" that is not all that difficult, but beautiful.

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10-27-2011, 01:30 AM
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How cold does it get in the arena? I'm in the nosebleeds and was just planning on wearing a tshirt and a jersey, but should I bring a hoodie just in case or is it not really needed?

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10-29-2011, 04:33 PM
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Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm looking forward to it. Wish I was there this weekend instead... 33 degrees and snow and it's not even November!

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10-29-2011, 04:54 PM
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How cold does it get in the arena? I'm in the nosebleeds and was just planning on wearing a tshirt and a jersey, but should I bring a hoodie just in case or is it not really needed?
Jersey should be fine.

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11-07-2011, 02:09 PM
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What are the best streets in Old Town Scottsdale, where there are most shops, bars, things to do?

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11-13-2011, 08:39 PM
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Just came back from the trip, really had a great time! People in Arizona are nice, random people kept asking us how we were doing.

My tourist point of view of the trip :

1- Westgate, don't spend more than 2 hrs there. Nothing to do at all during the day.
2- Scottsdale, great city, loved it. Shotgun Betty's was awesome. It was National Metal day when we went, so it rocked! I felt bad for the girls dancing but I enjoyed it quite a lot haha.

Half a day walking around Old Town Scottsdale was enough. There's not so much to do around tho. To do the fun stuff we had to get outside of the area.

We went to the Four Peaks Brewery at Tempe, a must. Loved the place, loved the beers, loved the music and lotta chicks (it's right in the University campus). My hamburger was delicious.

For any outsiders (Canadians) I would highly recommend going to the Scottsdale Gun Club. We had the chance to shoot with guns for the very first time and it was worth all the money (not that expensive, in between 80-200$).

All in all I would've stayed at least 2 more days in Arizona (we had 3 full days to visit). We didn't have the time to drive far away from the big cities to see Sedona, Tombstone or the Grand Canyon, which would've been awesome.

Loved my trip

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11-13-2011, 08:52 PM
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Glad to hear you enjoyed your trip. You nailed it though, there's no place in town worth more than a few hours, you have to drive around.

Too bad you missed out on the Grand Canyon, Sedona, painted desert, petrified forest and monument valley. It's worth seeing. You'll have to come back!

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11-13-2011, 08:57 PM
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Glad you enjoyed your time in AZ!!

Where did you go specifically at Westgate?

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Glad you enjoyed your time in AZ!!

Where did you go specifically at Westgate?
There's not so many places to go. A couple shops, a few restaurants and that's it. We went at 11 am in the morning, it was dead empty. We sat alone in the McFadden's for lunch.

Loved the Yardhouse tho, great place to drink beers on tap.

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11-13-2011, 09:11 PM
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Tried to warn you - there's indeed nothing to do at Westgate. Sorry you had to kill an entire afternoon there.

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11-13-2011, 09:17 PM
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There's not so many places to go. A couple shops, a few restaurants and that's it. We went at 11 am in the morning, it was dead empty. We sat alone in the McFadden's for lunch.

Loved the Yardhouse tho, great place to drink beers on tap.

A little souvenir of the trip :

Youre right that Westgate isnt a spot to spend all day there. However YardHouse is my favorite place to be at Westgate.

I love getting the Sam Adams Cherry Wheat. I also love getting the Sliders, Wings, Mac and Cheese2 from there as well. Expensive but great food there.

Hopefully you guys rented a car as well since getting cab rides to get around are expensive.

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11-13-2011, 09:30 PM
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Since it was NASCAR week-end, it cost us 900$ for 4 days to rent a car.

Expensive.

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Tried to warn you - there's indeed nothing to do at Westgate. Sorry you had to kill an entire afternoon there.
To be fair it's not like it's a problem with Westgate per se, after all unless you're 14 why would anyone want to hang out at a mall all afternoon?! That said, Westgate is a pretty cool spot on game nights or weekend nights.

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petrified forest
IMO you aren't missing much on that one.

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IMO you aren't missing much on that one.
Fair enough. I had never seen petrified wood, I thought it was an interesting stop on the way to monument valley. But yeah, I wouldn't make it a destination.

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IMO you aren't missing much on that one.
I just moved from there to flagstaff. The petrified forest isn't that bad!

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