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04-06-2004, 12:17 PM
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if thornton plays gm 1

what are your lines?

knuble-thornton-murray
samsonov-nylander-green
axelsson-rolston-bergeron
zamuner-donato-lapointe

give lapointe the odd shift on all 3 top lines, as well as 2nd PP time. i see that role going to either him or green, and maybe green is more suited to bouncing around

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04-06-2004, 12:31 PM
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If....LOL

I find the "if" to be funny.

I think there is no way in heck that Thornton misses a game. If the injury is what is being speculated (strained ribs and or muscles) then he NEEDS to tough it out and get in the line up. A 75% Thornton is more effective than all but a couple of our other forwards at 100%!

That said, I agree with the great majority of your lines neelynugs.

Thornton- Knuble- Murray
Nylander- Samsonov- Green
Bergeron- Rolston- Lapointe
Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner/Grosek

Personally, I dont care which one plays...Zamuner or Grosek. They both bring dimensions that help a bit, but realistically that 12th forward wont get much more than 50 seconds to 2 minutes of ice.

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04-06-2004, 12:39 PM
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what are your lines?

knuble-thornton-murray
samsonov-nylander-green
axelsson-rolston-bergeron
zamuner-donato-lapointe

give lapointe the odd shift on all 3 top lines, as well as 2nd PP time. i see that role going to either him or green, and maybe green is more suited to bouncing around
No doubt Green needs to get more ice time for his grit and composure. LaPointe is not affraid to get in front of the net and can lay some shoulder on some hab.

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04-06-2004, 12:41 PM
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I find the "if" to be funny.

I think there is no way in heck that Thornton misses a game. If the injury is what is being speculated (strained ribs and or muscles) then he NEEDS to tough it out and get in the line up. A 75% Thornton is more effective than all but a couple of our other forwards at 100%!

That said, I agree with the great majority of your lines neelynugs.

Thornton- Knuble- Murray
Nylander- Samsonov- Green
Bergeron- Rolston- Lapointe
Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner/Grosek

Personally, I dont care which one plays...Zamuner or Grosek. They both bring dimensions that help a bit, but realistically that 12th forward wont get much more than 50 seconds to 2 minutes of ice.

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I just hope everybody remembers what was just said about Thornton....even if hes 75% you want him in the line up.....I know most of us feel this way, but if his injury is hampering him....remeber that, and dont start talking crap about his play!! If and when Joe plays in the first game than ***** the situation and how he plays and then decide if he is helping the team....but at least be classy enough to grant him the one game and decide from there.....If he plays game one NOBODY who is asking for him to suck it up better talk crap!!

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Originally Posted by neelynugs
what are your lines?

knuble-thornton-murray
samsonov-nylander-green
axelsson-rolston-bergeron
zamuner-donato-lapointe

give lapointe the odd shift on all 3 top lines, as well as 2nd PP time. i see that role going to either him or green, and maybe green is more suited to bouncing around
I'm with Jeff.

I would play Zamuner over Grosek. I feel he's more stable/defensive oriented and isn't prone to letting his emotions get the better of him (like MG)

Swapping Axelsson with Lapointe makes a lot of sense. I really like Bergeron & Lapointe on the same line.

The 4th line (Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner) is as solid defensively as you can get.

I like the depth that this team has.

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04-06-2004, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by neelynugs
what are your lines?

knuble-thornton-murray
samsonov-nylander-green
axelsson-rolston-bergeron
zamuner-donato-lapointe

give lapointe the odd shift on all 3 top lines, as well as 2nd PP time. i see that role going to either him or green, and maybe green is more suited to bouncing around
That's the lines I would go with.

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These would be my lines:

Thornton/Muzz/Bergeron
Nylander/Knuble/Samsonov
Rolston/Green/Lapointe
Donato/Axelsson/Zamuner

Well actually I would probably scratch Zamuner and dress Delmore as a PP only specialist. No even strength or forward shifts...PP only. I think his big shot would be a great compliment to Gonchar at the points.

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These would be my lines:

Thornton/Muzz/Bergeron
Nylander/Knuble/Samsonov
Rolston/Green/Lapointe
Donato/Axelsson/Zamuner

Well actually I would probably scratch Zamuner and dress Delmore as a PP only specialist. No even strength or forward shifts...PP only. I think his big shot would be a great compliment to Gonchar at the points.
Nice avatar BZ, While I like Jeff's lines especially putting Green on 2nd line.....I like your idea of dressing Delmore for the PP. The way Greens scoring up there, and the way Bergeron HATES the habs, he might be more effective on a checking line.

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04-06-2004, 07:54 PM
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Only Thing That Scares Me About That Is This

Bergeron on line one. And the reason it scares me is because Mike Knuble takes an absolute pounding every night to help set up Murray. He does the grunt work, while Thornton and Muzz get the face time. Bergeron is willing to play a somewhat physical game, but he isnt in Knubles league in that regard. Putting Bergeron on Joes wing will, IMHO, force Joe to take on even MORE grinding work. He`ll have to do much more digging than he does right now....a more tired Thornton. And I didnt even mention that by taking Knubes off that line you also lose your best crease digger.

I "hate" to say it, but these 3 guys belong together. Muzz isnt nearly as effective with anyone else...nor is Knuble. And Bergeron played his best ES hockey when he was with Axelsson and Rolston...but I prefer Lapointe instead of Axelsson.

ES
Thornton- Knuble- Murray
Nylander- Samsonov- Green
Rolston- Bergeron- Lapointe
Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner

Gonchar- O`Donnell
Boynton- Gill
McGillis- Slegr


PP
Thornton- Nylander- Murray
Gonchar- Slegr

Bergeron- Samsonov- Knuble
Gonchar- Rolston


PK
Rolston- Axelsson
Boynton- Gill

Green- Donato
McGillis- O`Donnell

Later

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by the way, i think you guys are nuts for putting axelsson on the 4th line

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by the way, i think you guys are nuts for putting axelsson on the 4th line
Me too. I think Axie (snicker) should take a seat in the pressbox.
I'd also play Grosek over the completely useless Zamuner. As bad as Ted "Skatefighter" Donato is, he can skate around doing nothing but attempting to pokecheck as well as Axelsson and Zamuner.

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Me too. I think Axie (snicker) should take a seat in the pressbox.
I'd also play Grosek over the completely useless Zamuner. As bad as Ted "Skatefighter" Donato is, he can skate around doing nothing but attempting to pokecheck as well as Axelsson and Zamuner.
How about Doull? Should he play... maybe he could replace Sammy on the 2nd line?

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How about Doull? Should he play... maybe replace Sammy on the 2nd line?
I could see Green in Sammys place, but not Doull. Doull could give more quality minutes than Zamuner if Montreal didn't have such a soft team.

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I could see Green in Sammys place, but not Doull. Doull could give more quality minutes than Zamuner if Montreal didn't have such a soft team.
What's more important to you... winning or injuring the most Hab players possible? Just wondering... :lol

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What's more important to you... winning or injuring the most Hab players possible? Just wondering... :lol
I never said anything about injuring players.

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I never said anything about injuring players.
I never said you did... I was just wondering...

To stay on topic...

I like Jeff's lines of
Thornton- Knuble- Murray
Nylander- Samsonov- Green
Bergeron- Rolston- Lapointe
Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner/Grosek

Except I would have Donato and Axelsson has the first PK unit.

Also if that 2nd line is having trouble producing I wouldn't mind seeing Axelsson and Green switch spots. I think the B's could get away with a Nylander, Sammy, Axelsson line against the Habs.

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I find the "if" to be funny.

I think there is no way in heck that Thornton misses a game. If the injury is what is being speculated (strained ribs and or muscles) then he NEEDS to tough it out and get in the line up. A 75% Thornton is more effective than all but a couple of our other forwards at 100%!

That said, I agree with the great majority of your lines neelynugs.

Thornton- Knuble- Murray
Nylander- Samsonov- Green
Bergeron- Rolston- Lapointe
Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner/Grosek

Personally, I dont care which one plays...Zamuner or Grosek. They both bring dimensions that help a bit, but realistically that 12th forward wont get much more than 50 seconds to 2 minutes of ice.

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sounds like joe will play and thats great news. i will agree with you that a 75% joe is better then others at 100%.

you do however keep going back to your ," joe has to suck it up and play no matter what " response.

this is all well and good if its an injury that will just get better with time no matter what. but if its an injury that with one big hit puts him out of the playoffs then I guarantee you the coaching staff is considering resting him one or two more games.

not saying this is the case, just saying trainers ,coaches are not afraid to rest a star player for the first game of the playoffs if needed.they wont gamble on joe just to get him into game one. game 7 is another story.

iam not trying to be negative. i hope along with everybody else that he is playing for game one.

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I never said you did... I was just wondering...

To stay on topic...

I like Jeff's lines of
Thornton- Knuble- Murray
Nylander- Samsonov- Green
Bergeron- Rolston- Lapointe
Donato- Axelsson- Zamuner/Grosek

Except I would have Donato and Axelsson has the first PK unit.
Yeah, those lines look pretty good. I still don't want to see anything of Rob Zamuner, not on the fourth line, not in this series, not in the next series, not next year or ever, EVER in a Bruins uniform again.

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I prefer Grosek in there over Zamuner........with one major caveat........Sullivan has to sit him down and let him know in no uncertain terms that lazy, stupid and especially..costly penalities will NOT be tolerated. I think that Zamuner is fully capable........but Grosek (except for the penalities) would be more of a playoff warrior, and could potentially provide more scoring on the 4th line.

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I'm agreeing 100% with Nugs on this one... I like his lines. I don't want to see Axelsson on the 4th... And I like the idea of having Lapointe out there with any line at any given time... He could be a non-stereotypical 4th liner that way, and actually log a bit of time... AND it could make line matching against the Bruins much, much more difficult.

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I said it in the other thread, and I knew it would happen..... Jeff gets credit for the lines I posted first. But it's all good, at least most of us agree that those should be the best lines. The fourth line would be used as a shutdown line, as all three are strong defensive players. But Grosek may need to be dressed for game one so we have another physical forward. I wouldn't use him in more than a couple games, but he needs some time. Whatever the lineup is, I can't wait for tomorrow night.

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Jeff,..

why no Boynton on PP?

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by the way, i think you guys are nuts for putting axelsson on the 4th line
It won't happen.

This is what I'd do:
Knuble-Thornton-Green/Lapointe
Samsonov-Nylander-Murray/Lapointe
Axelsson-Rolston-Bergeron/Lapointe
Zamuner-Donato-Hilbert/Lapointe



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Me too. I think Axie (snicker) should take a seat in the pressbox.
I'd also play Grosek over the completely useless Zamuner. As bad as Ted "Skatefighter" Donato is, he can skate around doing nothing but attempting to pokecheck as well as Axelsson and Zamuner.
How can you deny what Ted has done for the penalty kill ?

Their season stats aren't all that good, but since he has been called
up, and used on the PK they are like 3rd in the league.
He has scored some timely goals and even sh goal(s).

He isn't 1st or 2nd line material, but he is a good 4th liner and can fill in
on other lines on a temp basis.

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I'm really starting to get curious about line combos for tonight's game, will Sully keep Green on the top two lines if Thornton plays? IMO he should be there.

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