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Nope. A bunch of potentilally second line guys and a 3rd-4th d-man...sorry, but theres gotta be someone in a potentially great talent in there somewhere.
Caps fans are lucky that you are not their GM. Carlo is a highly reguarded defensive prospect, he busted the Gonchar trade, then Glen Sather tried to get him in the Leetch deal. Steen is a damn good center.
Ovechkin is worth no more than those two, getting Stajan and Antropov as well would be grand larceny.
I'll give you a 9th round pick in 2386. I guarantee he will be better Ovechkin, because he will be genetically engineered and have cybernetic implants. Since hockey in that era is played on rocket skates, he's about 100x faster than Ovechkin. Whether or not this pick will be better than the rest of the draft class that year is debateable.
- Colaiacovo has the potential to be a top 10 NHL defenseman.
- Alexander Steen has the potential to be a #1 centre.
- Matthew Stajan has 2nd line potential.
- Nikolai Antropov still has that potential, but he's a #2 player... at the age of 24.
It's a good offer, I'll give you that, but it fails to take into account the glut of quality prospects already in our system. I think it's overkill.
We need a superstar or two, and maybe a veteran presence to cultivate the young talent, and we'll be competitive in two-three years.
It will be a cold day in hell before you see a contender trade a #1 defenseman in his prime, not to mention their two best prospects for a guy who hasn't proved squat in the NHL yet.
I know, I'm just trying to make a deal that the Ovechkin homer will say 'yes' to
as a canes fan, ill take this opportunity to strike back for all the "amazing" oneill offers.
canes get first overall
caps get svoboda
bayda
richmond
2nd rounder
This is exactly what people need to understand......now I know throwing around proposals is fun.....but in the Caps current situation trading AO makes no sense whatsoever....as pointed out that have a very strong group of prospects so getting some good/very good prospects in return doesnt make sense in a quantity for quality trade....the CBA situation confuses things more seeing how we have no idea who will be on the club next time they play (save for a couple guys at most that are locks)....they most certainly need NHL D-men....but no way they move the #1 pick to fill those needs.....and I seem to remember GMGM trying hard to move 3 #1 picks to move up and get Nash a couple drafts ago.....that tells me he really feels the need for a young star forward.....and getting a potential franchise guy is worth multiple good/very good prospects
The Rangers 1st rounder. 2 second rounders (your choice as we have 4 to choose from) Jamie Lundmark or Tom Poti (again your choice) and we forefit the cash headed our way in the Jagr deal.
It's a good offer, I'll give you that, but it fails to take into account the glut of quality prospects already in our system.
You know what's funny though. How many Washington Capital prospects have gone on to be major players in the NHL? How many have gone on to be impact players? Yeah, lots of potential, but never have I seen an organization that has so much difficulty developing it's own talent.
You know what's funny though. How many Washington Capital prospects have gone on to be major players in the NHL? How many have gone on to be impact players? Yeah, lots of potential, but never have I seen an organization that has so much difficulty developing it's own talent.
Mike Gartner
Scott Stevens
Al Iafrate
Peter Bondra
Michael Pivonka
Sergei Gonchar
Olaf Kolzig
Byron Dafoe
Jason Allison
Anson Carter
Andrew Brunette
Richard Zednik
Jan Bulis
Jim Carey
Brendan Witt
Steve Konowalchuck
Ken Klee
Jeff Halpern
Mike Gartner
Scott Stevens
Al Iafrate
Peter Bondra
Michael Pivonka
Sergei Gonchar
Olaf Kolzig
Byron Dafoe
Jason Allison
Anson Carter
Andrew Brunette
Richard Zednik
Jan Bulis
Jim Carey
Brendan Witt
Steve Konowalchuck
Ken Klee
Jeff Halpern
Even if that first overall has the potential to be a Mario Lemieux?
You're going to be sorely dissapointed if you think Ovechkin has the potential to be half of what Lemieux is. Most reports I've read list Ovechkin as a solid two-way player with good size and good offensive instincts. He's been compared to Ilya Kovalchuk, but with less offense and more defense. He'll be a great player, one that every team would want, but one of the all-time greats, not likely.
some of these offers are just ludicrous, no first overall is worth some of these packages...
Well, Kovalchuk was every bit as unproven as Ovechkin is now and a package including Zednik, Garon, Komisarek and a 1st along with a few other players/picks (which escape me) wasn't enough to grab him, because they wanted Theodore over Garon(!). We'd probably be surprised at how much a certain GM is willing to pay.
Dudley is the kind of moron that would probably trade all his players over 23yrs of age for Ovechkin [/zing]
Nope. Maybe you misunderstood......I found the "you'll listen to our offers and like it" funny, not the offer.
As for what -I- would want in a deal for Ovechkin I'm serious....any deal sending away the best draft prospect in over a decade they should get back at least 1 potential franchise guy. The Caps are stocked enuff with above average prospects, they don't need 4-5 more, they need a cornerstone.
