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All-Time Draft #12, Part II

All-Time Draft #12


1). The draft will last 30 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 3 extra picks. In addition, since there will be no MLD12 (as ATD13 will begin in January) each team is to draft six minor leaguers (three forwards, two dmen, a goalie), guys to simply indicate depth in the organization or to be call-ups if desired in a playoff series. For each player called up, one must be sent down (simply indicate on the playoff thread). Your roster thread post should clearly indicate the call-up squad as apart from the main team.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.

12 hour clock for the first two rounds
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-8,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 9-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-30 (rounds 25-30 are double picks, so will be 3 rounds)

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trading is by the THREE TRADES, THREE OBJECTOR RULE. Each team may make a maximum of three trades and any trade which is objected to by at least three teams' GMs will not be accepted, will need to be re-worked or dropped. There will be a 24-hour period to object to a trade, and accordingly, NO TRADING OF PICKS THAT ARE ON THE CLOCK.

4). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a lowering in the standings because we would also be ranking our own teams in our own divisions (e.g., most teams will rank their own team 1st in their own division; if a team doesn't vote they loose out on a 1st place vote opportunity and hence their team's ranking will be lower than it could have been).

5). In addition to submitting rankings of teams in every division (as per usual), each team is to submit their vote on the following twelve categories concerning the teams in the other division of the same conference. To be clear, regarding the categories: Everyone votes on the following categories for those in the OTHER division of one's own conference. (Note: The results will be tallied and the best of each division will be finalists in a second round of voting after open debate regarding which of the four divisional finalists in each category is the draft league's best.)

The 12 categories to vote on (rank the top three teams in the division 1st, 2nd, 3rd for each):

I. Top scoring line (likely a 1st or 2nd line)
II. Top two-way line (likely a 2nd or 3rd line)
III. Top defensive line (likely a 3rd or 4th line)
IV. Top starting 5 (lw-c-rw-d-d when puck drops to begin game)
V. Top defensemen duo pairing
VI. Top Top-4 core defense
VII. Top blueline overall (all 7 dmen together)
VIII. Top goaltending tandem (sharing regular season workload)
IX. Top powerplay (two 5-men units, coaching)
X. Top penalty kill (two 4-men units, goaltending, coaching)
XI. Top team chemistry (consideration of how skaters gell, how coaching "fits" with team style, etc)
XII. Top call-up squad (the quality and usefulness of the 3 forwards, 2 dmen and 1 goalie on the farm)

So, after votes are tallied, we will have four finalists for each category (the best from each division) and can openly argue thereafter which of them is the best and why, to be followed by another round of voting by all GMs on the four finalists.

6). REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFF VOTING TO BE A SET RESPONSIBILITY.

i) VOTING expected of every team, even after being eliminated. In a 32-team draft, there will be 16 teams/8 series starting after the first round, and the 16 just eliminated teams are to vote on the eight series in round two, four series in the divisional finals, two series in the conference finals and the championship final. This is an obligation you take on when joining the all-time draft. (Choosing to have a co-GM makes it easier for a team to meet this obligation.)

ii) Assuming a 32-team draft, all 8 teams per division would play in the opening round (1st vs. 8th, 4th vs. 5th, etc).

iii) The playoffs would last exactly 18 days, as follows:

The first round will last five days (three days discussion, one day voting, one day results).
The second round will last four days (two days discussion, one day voting, one day results).
The third, fourth and fifth rounds will each last three days (18-hour discussion, 24 hour voting, half day results).

The discussion period CAN BE extended IF AND ONLY IF under a revised, extended schedule - as might be discussed following the draft - the playoffs end date to be no later than the first week of December. This draft will not go into the holiday season.

And a few quick reminders:
1) You are REQUIRED to PM the next GM(s) after you pick. If you announce a list pick for a GM, you are still required to PM the next GM.
2) You are expected to send a list to another GM if you don't expect to be around for a while. This draft can move very fast at times. If you're not going to be around for six or eight hours, and you will be picking within the next 10 selections, there is a good chance we will get to your pick within eight hours. This is especially true for weekends and evenings.
3) We do like it when you post extensive information about a player. However, if the next GM, or the next few GMs, are on-line when your pick comes up, announce the pick, and then post the detailed bio afterwards. It's a common courtesy, and it helps keep the draft moving.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL GMs, and have fun.

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time window deduction:
Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - minus 3 hours
MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - minus 1 hour
chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - minus 3 hours
Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - minus 1 hour
pappyline - Toronto Toros - minus 1 hour
Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67s - minus 3 hours



Round 1:

1 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bobby Orr, D
2 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Wayne Gretzky, C
3 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Gordie Howe, RW
4 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Mario Lemieux, C
5 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Doug Harvey, D
6 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Eddie Shore, D
7 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Raymond Bourque, D
8 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Bobby Hull, LW
9 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Jean Beliveau, C
10 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Maurice "Rocket" Richard, RW
11 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Denis Potvin, D
12 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Patrick Roy, G
13 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Leonard "Red" Kelly, D
14 VanIslander - Chicago Blackhawks - Stan Mikita, C
15 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Bryan Trottier, C
16 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Howie Morenz, C
17 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Guy Lafleur, RW
18 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mark Messier, C
19 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Bobby Clarke, C
20 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Dominik Hasek, G
21 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Ted Lindsay, LW
22 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Niklas Lidstrom, D
23 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats - Jacques Plante, G
24 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Larry Robinson, D
25 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Phil Esposito, C
26 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde, C
27 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Vyacheslav Fetisov, D
28 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Terry Sawchuk, G
29 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Mike Bossy, RW
30 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Jaromir Jagr, RW
31 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Fred "Cyclone" Taylor, Rover
32 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - Brad Park, D

Round 2:

33 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Joe Sakic, C
34 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Glenn Hall, G
35 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Chris Chelios, D
36 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Martin Brodeur, G
37 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Milt Schmidt, C
38 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - Syl Apps, C
39 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Pierre Pilote, D
40 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Ken Dryden, G
41 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Steve Yzerman, C
42 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats - Paul Coffey, D
43 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Aubrey "Dit" Clapper, D
44 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Bernie "Boom Boom" Geoffrion, RW
45 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
46 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Tim Horton, D
47 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scott Stevens, D
48 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Francis "King" Clancy, D
49 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Earl Seibert, D
50 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Sprague Cleghorn, D
51 VanIslander - Chicago Blackhawks - Bill Cook, RW
52 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dickie Moore, LW
53 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Bill Gadsby, D
54 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Max Bentley, C
55 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Petr Forsberg, C
56 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Al MacInnis, D
57 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Charlie Conacher, RW
58 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Henri Richard, C
59 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Borje Salming, D
60 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Frank Nighbor, C
61 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Clint Benedict, G
62 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Frank Boucher, C
63 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Jari Kurri, RW
64 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils- Serge Savard, D

Round 3:

65 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Joe Malone, C/LW
66 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Rod Langway, D
67 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Vladislav Tretiak, G
68 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Valeri Vasiliev, D
69 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Frank Mahovlich, LW
70 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Chris Pronger, D
71 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Marcel Dionne, C
72 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Ted "Teeder" Kennedy, C
73 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Andy Bathgate, RW
74 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Brian Leetch, D
75 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Elmer Lach, C
76 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Gilbert Perreault, C
77 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Guy Lapointe, D
78 VanIslander - Chicago Blackhawks - Bill Durnan, G
79 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Sergei Makarov, RW
80 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Aurele Joliat, LW
81 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Walter "Turk" Broda, G
82 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Johnny Bower, G
83 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Brett Hull, RW
84 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Mark Howe, D
85 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - "Black" Jack Stewart, D
86 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Dave Keon, C
87 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats - Boris Mikhailov, RW
88 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Doug Gilmour, C
89 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Sid Abel, C/LW
90 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Bernie Parent, G
91 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Scott Niedermayer, D
92 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Bill Quackenbush, D
93 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Cy Denneny, LW
94 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
95 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Hector "Toe" Blake, LW
96 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - Johnny Bucyk, LW

Round 4:

97 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - Jacques Laperriere, D
98 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Ebbie Goodfellow, D
99 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Marcel Pronovost, D
100 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Emile "Butch" Bouchard, D
101 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Lionel Conacher, D/LW
102 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Peter Stastny, C
103 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Harvey "Busher" Jackson, LW
104 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - J.C. Tremblay, D
105 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Cam Neely, RW
106 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats- Norm Ullman, C
107 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Frank Brimsek, G
108 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Bill Cowley, C
109 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Sergei Fedorov, C
110 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Adam Oates, C
111 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Eric Lindros, C
112 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Nels Stewart, C
113 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Charlie Gardiner, G
114 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ron Francis, C
115 VanIslander - Chicago Blackhawks - Eddie Gerard, D/LW
116 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
117 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Tom Johnson, D
118 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Billy Smith, G
119 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Anatoli Firsov, LW
120 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Fern Flaman, D
121 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - George "Buck" Boucher, D
122 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Carl Brewer, D
123 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Alex Ovechkin, LW
124 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Doug Bentley, LW
125 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Reginald "Hooley" Smith, F
126 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Ivan "Ching" Johnson, D
127 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Jiri Holocek, G
128 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jarome Iginla, RW

Round 5:

129 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Alexander Maltsev, RW/C
130 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Larry Murphy, D
131 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Zdeno Chara
132 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Ernie "Moose Johnson, D
133 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Albert "Babe" Siebert, D/LW
134 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Igor Larionov, C
135 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Grant Fuhr, G
136 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Harry Howell, D
137 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Allan Stanley, D
138 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Pavel Bure, RW
139 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Alexander Ragulin, D
140 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Bill Barber, LW
141 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Joe Primeau, C
142 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks - Dale Hawerchuk, C
143 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Brendan Shanahan, LW
144 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Roy Conacher, LW
145 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Sylvio Mantha, D
146 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Red Horner, D
147 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - George Hainsworth, G
148 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Alexei Kasatonov, D
149 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Marty Barry, C
150 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Pat LaFontaine, C
151 seventieslord & jareklajkosz - Regina Pats - Jean Ratelle, C
152 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Kenny Reardon, D
153 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Duncan "Mickey" MacKay, C/RW
154 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Vaclav Nedomansky, RW
155 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Rob Blake, D
156 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Bryan Hextall Sr.
157 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Clark Gillies, LW
158 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Bob Gainey, LW
159 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Doug Wilson, D
160 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - D Harry Cameron

Round 6:

161 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - C/LW Syd Howe
162 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - RW Teemu Selanne
163 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Michel Goulet, LW
164 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
165 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Hod Stuart, D
166 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Glenn Anderson, RW
167 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Frantisek Pospisil, D
168 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Art Coulter, D
169 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Lorne "Gump" Worsley, G
170 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats - Clarence "Hap" Day, D
171 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Luc Robitaille, LW
172 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Lanny McDonald, RW
173 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Sidney Crosby, C
174 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
175 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mats Sundin, C
176 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Jacques Lemaire, C
177 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Ed Belfour, G
178 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Tim Kerr, RW
179 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks - Fred "Bun" Cook, LW
180 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Claude Provost, RW
181 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Harry "Punch" Broadbent, RW
182 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Rick Middleton, RW
183 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Evgeni Malkin, C
184 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Bert Olmstead, LW
185 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Pat Stapleton, D
186 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - Didier "Cannonball" Pitre, RW
187 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Denis Savard, C
188 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Vladimir Petrov, C
189 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Jan Suchy, D
190 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Dave "Sweeney" Schriner, LW
191 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Sergei Zubov, D
192 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Woody Dumart, LW

Round 7:

193 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Jimmy Thomson, D
194 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Alexander Yakushev, LW
195 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Steve Shutt, LW
196 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Darryl Sittler, C
197 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Cecil "Babe" Dye, RW
198 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Ilya Kovalchuk, LW
199 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - Frank Foyston, F
200 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Bill White, D
201 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Elmer "Moose" Vasko, D
202 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Nikolai Sologubov, D
203 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Gary Roberts, LW
204 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Walter "Babe" Pratt, D
205 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bob Baun, D
206 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks - Doug Mohns, D/LW
207 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Brian Propp, LW
208 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Lionel Hitchman, D
209 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Reg Noble, LW/D
210 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - John LeClair, LW
211 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Gary Suter, D
212 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Rod Gilbert, RW
213 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
214 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Esa Tikkanen, LW
215 seventieslord & jareklajkosz - Regina Pats - Lester Patrick, D
216 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Rick Martin, LW
217 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Leo Boivin, D
218 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Irvine "Ace" Bailey, RW
219 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Adam Foote, D
220 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Art Ross, D
221 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Joe Thornton, C
222 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Herb Gardiner, D
223 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Gus Mortson, D
224 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Sid Smith, LW

Round 8:

225 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls - Guy Carbonneau, C
226 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs - Theoren Fleury, RW
227 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks - Tony Esposito, G
228 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets - Mike Modano, C
229 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons - Marvin ''Cy'' Wentworth, D
230 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades - John Tonelli, LW
231 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Brad McCrimmon, D
232 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Paul Thompson, LW
233 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Jean-Guy Talbot, D
234 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats - Craig Ramsay, LW
235 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Ed Litzenberger, RW/C
236 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - Wayne Cashman, LW
237 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - Si Griffis, D
238 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Kevin Stevens, LW
239 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Rod Brind'Amour, C/LW
240 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Neil Colville, C/D
241 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Cecil Dillon, RW
242 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Gerry Cheevers, G
243 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks - Steve Larmer, RW
244 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Frank McGee, C
245 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
246 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Eric DesJardins, D
247 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Vsevolod Bobrov, LW
248 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Walt Tkaczuk, C
249 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Baldy Northcott, LW
250 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Larry Aurie, RW
251 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Vladimir Martinec, RW
252 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Hap Holmes, G
253 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Tommy Phillips, LW
254 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Mike Gartner, RW
255 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Doug Jarvis, C
256 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Paul Kariya, LW

Round 9: We are now on an eight-hour clock

257 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bob Goldham, D
258 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers - Nick Metz, LW/RW
259 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs - Scotty Bowman, Coach
260 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans - Vladimir Krutov, LW
261 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Danny Gare, RW
262 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers - Claude Lemieux, RW
263 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Kevin Lowe, D
264 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Gordie Drillon, RW
265 pappyline - Toronto Toros - Donnie Marshall, C/LW
266 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars - Tiny Thompson, G
267 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers - Brian Sutter, LW
268 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads - Wendel Clark, LW
269 papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bob Pulford, LW
270 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks - Dean Prentice, LW
271 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Craig Hartsburg, D
272 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada - Phil Watson, F
273 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga - Jack Darragh, RW
274 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wally Stanowski, D
275 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's - Sergei Gonchar, D
276 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires - George Armstrong, RW
277 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons - SKIPPED
278 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Asked to be skipped
279 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats - Dick Duff, LW
280 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs - Dino Ciccarelli, RW
281 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds - Jim Neilson, D
282 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - ON THE CLOCK
283 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades
284 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons
285 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets
286 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks
287 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs
288 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls

Round 10:

289 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls
290 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs
291 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks
292 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets
293 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons
294 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades
295 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters
296 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds
297 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs
298 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats
299 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners
300 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons
301 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires
302 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's
303 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
304 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga
305 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada
306 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
307 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks
308 papershoes - Kenora Thistles
309 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads
310 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers
311 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars
312 pappyline - Toronto Toros
313 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers
314 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
315 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers
316 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
317 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans
318 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs
319 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers
320 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils

Round 11:

321 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
322 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers
323 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs
324 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans
325 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
326 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers
327 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
328 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers
329 pappyline - Toronto Toros
330 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars
331 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers
332 Stalberg - Halifax Mooseheads
333 papershoes - Kenora Thistles
334 Evil Sather - Chicago Blackhawks
335 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
336 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada
337 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga
338 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
339 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's
340 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires
341 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons
342 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners
343 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats
344 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs
345 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds
346 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters
347 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades
348 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons
349 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets
350 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks
351 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs
352 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls

Round 12:

353 nik jr - Grand Rapids Owls
354 Leafs Forever - Cairo Desert Dogs
355 Hedberg - Tidewater Sharks
356 vancityluongo - Winnipeg Jets
357 EagleBelfour - Detroit Falcons
358 Bobby Ryan Getzlaf - New York Golden Blades
359 shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters
360 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Portland Rosebuds
361 Rzeznik - Nova Scotia Voyageurs
362 seventieslord & jareklajkosz- Regina Pats
363 Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners
364 chaosrevolver - Montreal Maroons
365 overpass - Renfrew Millionaires
366 Cup 2010 Sens Rule - Ottawa 67's
367 Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
368 Zamboni Mania - St. Georges Garaga
369 MXD - Silver Seven Sons of Canada
370 MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
371 VanIslander - Chicago Blackhawks
372 papershoes - Kenora Thistles
373 MacLeaf - Halifax Mooseheads
374 GodBlessCanada & raleh - Medicine Hat Tigers
375 JFA87-66-99 - Victoria Cougars
376 pappyline - Toronto Toros
377 pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers
378 Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
379 Reds4Life - Trinec Steelers
380 arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
381 Johnny Engine & Dreakmur - Hamilton Bettmans
382 CanadiensFan - Syracuse Bulldogs
383 Jungosi - Betelgeuse Hitchhikers
384 TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils

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To Kimberley: 38th overall (Syl Apps), 155th overall (Rob Blake), 219th overall (Adam Foote)
To NYGB: 58th overall (Henri Richard), 122nd overall (Carl Brewer), 186th overall (Didier Pitre)

To Grand Rapids: Syl Apps, 199th overall (Frank Foytson)
To Kimberley: Joe Sakic, 224th overall (Sid Smith)

To Detroit: 144th overall (Roy Conacher), 177th overall (dealt to New Jersey), 20th round pick
To Silver Seven Sons: 156th overall (Bryan Hextall), 165th overall (Hod Stuart), 20th round pick

To New Jersey: 177th overall (Ed Belfour), 220th overall (Art Ross), 13th rounder
To Detroit: 192nd overall (Woody Dumart), 193rd overall (Jimmy Thomson), 13th rounder


Note: Evil Sather took over operations of the Chicago Blackhawks from VanIslander after the team's fourth pick.


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I know I sent a list to someone, but I'm here and will pick shortly. Sorry to hear about VanI's circumstances.

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I have pappy's skipped pick. He's proud to select D Fern Flaman.

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Sorry to hear that Van I. Good luck and hope to see you in ATD 13.

Wow on Hooley Smith, we were thinking of trying to get a high 5th to take him. Makes me very glad we went the Abel route.

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I'll be here on and off the rest of the day in case anybody needs to send a list. (I already have pappy's list for Round 5).

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Three cheers for Hooley Smith

Member of the Hockey Hall of Fame
2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1927, 1935)
Olympic Gold Medal (1924)

Hart Voting - 2nd, 4th

Points – 4th, 4th, 6th, 8th, 8th, 10th, 11th, 16th
Goals – 4th, 7th, 10th, 10th, 13th, 15th, 15th
Assists – 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 6th, 6th, 7th, 7th, 11th, 11th, 18th

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Play-off Goals - 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 9th
Play-off Assists - 5th

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Sorry for the delay. I really hate going a few turns after arrbez. Second time in a row that the guy I was targetting kept falling and falling... until arrbez took him. So blame arrbez for the hold up, not me.

With their back to back picks, the New Jersey Swamp Devils select:

Power forward RW Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla who had more goals from 2000-2009 than any other player in the NHL.

Skilled RW/C Aleksandr Maltsev, arguably the best Russian forward of all time. His stats and awards are comparable to contemporaries Kharlamov and Mikhailov. Oh and he's Alexander Ovechkin's idol for what that's worth.

On another note, how does Doug Bentley always drop so far? I was sure GBC would take him to go with his brother Max.


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I have Jungo's pick. He's proud to select the steady, two-way presence of four-time Cup champ D Larry Murphy.

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Sorry for the delay. I really hate going a few turns after arrbez. Second time in a row that the guy I was targetting kept falling and falling... until arrbez took him. So blame arrbez for the hold up, not me.

With their back to back picks, the New Jersey Swamp Devils select:

Power forward RW Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla who had more goals from 2000-2009 than any other player in the NHL.

Skilled RW/C Alexander Maltsev, arguably the best Russian forward of all time. His stats and awards are comparable to contemporaries Kharlamov and Mikhailov. Oh and he's Alexander Ovechkin's idol for what that's worth.

On another note, how does Doug Bentley always drop so far? I was sure GBC would take him to go with his brother Max.
We've had Doug and Max before. On a line with Cam Neely. We decided to go in a different direction this time in that we wanted to get a start on our second line by drafting Lach. Our teams have a history of lacking secondary scoring after what is usually considered one of the better top lines in the draft. If we were going to get Doug we would have had to either sacrifice an elite second line C or a top 10-12 all time goalie. He's a great pick, but to be honest, I don't even think he came up in our discussions.

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We've had Doug and Max before. On a line with Cam Neely. We decided to go in a different direction this time in that we wanted to get a start on our second line by drafting Lach. Our teams have a history of lacking secondary scoring after what is usually considered one of the better top lines in the draft. If we were going to get Doug we would have had to either sacrifice an elite second line C or a top 10-12 all time goalie. He's a great pick, but to be honest, I don't even think he came up in our discussions.
He didn't. If he would have continued to drop this round, we would have had to look at him.

To be honest, when we picked Magic Max, the guy I envisioned on the left side was Ovechkin. That combination of speed, skill and aggressiveness would be lights out in this draft. Ovechkin's one of the few LWs who can keep up with Max, and his physical game would open up room for Max, too.

I think there is a fair-sized gap between Max and Doug. Playoffs play a big part in it. Max's playoff record is incredible. Doug's is incomplete. I don't fault Doug. It's not his fault Chicago was a doormat dynasty for most of their first 35 years of existence. But a great playoff record still trumps an incomplete one. But I don't think Doug should be that far behind Delvecchio or Toe Blake.

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RW Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla



-Three Top Three Hart finishes - 2nd (2002), 2nd (2004), 3rd (2008)
-Pearson Award in 2002
-3-time First Team All-Star - tying him with Hull, Conacher, and Cook for 6th most among RWs (2002, 2008, 2009)
-1-time Second Team All-Star (2004)
-2 Rocket Richard trophies (2002, 2004)
-Art Ross trophy (2002)
-Olympic Gold Medal (2002) as the first-line RW
-World Cup of Hockey Gold Medal (2004)

-1st in the NHL in goals and 2nd in points from 2001-2009.
-Lead his team in scoring 8 straight seasons
-PPG playoff player, even though his one long playoff run was at the height of the dead-puck era
-Lead his team in playoff scoring in 4 of 5 years (1 pt behind 1st in the 5th year)
-27 goals in 52 playoff games


-Durability: in his 12 year career, he's played all 82 games 6 times, missed 7 or fewer games 10 times, and never missed more than 12 games, despite his physical style of play
-Despite his rough and physical style of play, he doesn’t take stupid penalties

-Captain of Calgary Flames from 2004-09
-Flames all-time leader in goals and points

-All his NHL success accomplished without having a single ATD caliber skater on his team.

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- Hooley Smith and Holecek were outstanding picks. Ching and Iginla were't too bad, either. Nice work, fellas.

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C/RW Aleksandr Maltsev


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It is often said that if you were some how able to rank the top players in the history of hockey, a number of the members of the Soviet Red Army would be included near the top. Some would say Alexander Maltsev would top that list.

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However there is little doubt that Maltsev ranks among the most talented hockey players ever.
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In Soviet League play Alexander played in 530 games from 1967 to 1984. In that time he scored 329 goals while leading Dynamo Moscow to 6 silver medals and 7 bronze medals. The Red Army, stacked with all the best players, almost annually won the gold medal. Dynamo Moscow is generally considered to be Russia's second most successful team.

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-4 times Top 3 in Soviet League scoring (1st in 70-71, 2nd in 73-74, 3rd in 75-76, 3rd in 76-77)
-8 times Top 4 in Soviet League MVP voting (1st in 71-72, 2nd in 69-70, 2nd in 80-81, 3rd in 70-71, 4th in 73-74, 4th in 75-76, 5th in 77-78, 4th in 79-80)
-11 times Top 8 in Soviet League MVP voting (6th in 76-77, 8th in 72-73, 8th in 74-75)
-7 times Soviet League All-Star (69-70, 70-71, 71-72, 73-74, 77-78, 79-80, 80-81)

-IIHF Best Forward: 1970, 72, 81
-IIHF all-star: 1970, 71, 72, 78, 81

-World Championships top-5 scoring: 1st (70), 1st (72), 3rd (71), 3rd (78), 3rd (81)
-Olympics top-5 scoring: 1st (76), 5th (72)

-Allstar in the 1976 Canada Cup (only Soviet Allstar)

-All-time Soviet international goal leader: 213

All-TimeSoviet League MVP shares:
Tretiak 3.13
Makarov 2.56
Fetisov 2.01
Khalamov 1.87
Mikhailov 1.66
Maltsev 1.63
XXX 1.48
Firsov 1.12 (MVP award not available for most of his career)

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Maltsev is of course best known to North Americans for his starring role in the 1972 Summit Series where he teamed with CCCP's most dangerous individual player, Valeri Kharlamov. He was a set up man for Kharlamov who was the trigger man. His five assists tied him for second on the Series' assist list. When Kharlamov scored his two goals in game one to shock the Canadians and take a demanding lead, Maltsev, was the guy who set him up.

Alexander Maltsev also starred in the 1976 Canada Cup. He scored 3 goals and 7 assists in 5 games and was the only Russian named to the tournament All Star team.


Like Ovechkin, Maltsev was a creative player who was not afraid to try unique plays in practice or in games. In a game against Dynamo Berlin he was once reported to have scored a goal by flipping the puck over net while he darted out in front to knock the puck passed the goalie baseball style. Valeri Kharlamov, Pavel Bure and Pavel Datsyuk, amongst other Russian stars, have tried to emulate the famous goal, but with no success.

Maltsev was "born to be a hockey player," and it showed. He loved to be on the ice, even if it was just practice. He was said to be "out of sorts" when away from the rink, anxious to get back to it. He seemed to crave the attention he could generate with his game. Retirement from the game was said to be extremely tough for him.
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- Maltsev is perhaps the greatest international forward (leaving Tretiak and the defensemen out) in Soviet history. His achievements on international ice outshine all of the players thus far profiled, and there is a good argument that he was superior to Makarov, or at least on the same level.

- given the similarities in overall quality between Maltsev's career and that of Army Line bookends Kharlamov and Mikhailov, it is strange that he goes largely unheralded among North American fans. This is probably due to nothing more profound than a lack of press. Maltsev didn't stand out like Kharlamov in 72 (though his 0-5-5 was good for 9th in scoring in the tournament, tied with Mikhailov, Cournoyer and Park), and was never a member of a famous line, nor Soviet captain like Mikhailov. He played for Dynamo and not for CSKA, and was never a Soviet champion. In short, Maltsev's greatness was quieter than that of his better-known countrymen. There is good reason to believe, however, that he was of similar quality.


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If anyone is looking to trade down anytime in the next 63 picks (lol), make me an offer. If possible, I'd like to trade up.

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On a side note, Holocek and Maltsev are the two non-NHLers who I really think should be included on Top 100 lists.

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With their fifth selection and the 131st overall pick of the draft, the Syracuse Bulldogs are proud to select ...

Zdeno Chara, D

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Chára was drafted 56th overall by the New York Islanders in the 1996 NHL Entry Draft. After four seasons with the Islanders, he was traded to the Ottawa Senators during the 2001 NHL Entry Draft. Chára was part of a package deal with xxxx xxxx and the second overall pick in that year's draft (xxxx xxxx) that sent xxxx xxxx to New York.

As a Senator for four years, Chára emerged as an elite defenseman in the league and more than doubled his previous offensive totals in his first season with Ottawa. In his second season with the team, 2002–03, Chára made his first All-Star Game appearance and recorded the second hardest shot behind Al MacInnis in the skills competition.[2]

The next season, in addition to posting 16 goals and 41 points, Chára recorded the league's third highest plus/minus, behind xxxx xxxx and xxxx xxxx, culminating into his first Norris Trophy nomination. Although he would lose to Scott Niedermayer as the league's best defenseman, he would join Niedermayer on the NHL First All-Star Team.

After the 2004–05 NHL lockout, in which Chára played in the Swedish Elite League for Färjestad BK, he matched his previous NHL season's 16-goal total and increased to 43 points, good enough for NHL Second All-Star Team honours. As Chára did not come to terms on a new contract with Ottawa, he became an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2005–06.

Subsequently, on July 1, 2006, he signed a five-year, $37.5 million contract with the Boston Bruins and was named the team's captain. He became only the third Slovak-born NHL player to become a team captain, after Peter Šťastný of the Quebec Nordiques and Stan Mikita (co-captain) of the Chicago Blackhawks. He was named to the 2007 All-Star Game, his second appearance, in Dallas and scored two goals in an 12–9 Eastern Conference loss. Chára also won the hardest shot segment of the preceding skills competition, clocking a shot at 100.4 mph.

In 2008, he was voted in as a starter in the All-Star Game for the first time in his career and repeated as the winner of the hardest shot competition, recording an even-faster 103.1 mph (166 km/h) on the radar gun.

At the end of the season, Chára received his second nomination for the Norris Trophy after tallying a career-high 17 goals, 34 assists and 51 points, marking the fifth straight season he had either matched or increased his previous season's points total.

In 2008–09, Chára was named to his fourth All-Star Game. As back-to-back champion of the hardest shot competition, Chára set a new Skills Competition record, with a 105.4 mph (169.7 km/h) slapshot. The shot passed xx xxxx previous record-making 105.2 mph (169.3 km/h) slapper from just over a decade earlier. He won the Norris Trophy for the 2008–09 season, beating out xxxx xxxx of the Washington Capitals and Nicklas Lidstrom of the Detroit Red Wings.
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On the international scene, Chara has represented Slovakia at the World Championships (1999-2001, 2004-2005), Winter Olympics (2006) and the 2004 World Cup of Hockey.

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On a side note, Holocek and Maltsev are the two non-NHLers who I really think should be included on Top 100 lists.
No Kharlamov?


Also, I might be interested in trading down from 186, but we'll see. You can float me an offer but I doubt I'll accept it yet.

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I see your Giraffe Chara, I raise you Moose Johnson!



A huge man for his day, Moose protected his zone with his enormous reach, as well as generally putting up around half a point per game in the NHA and PCHA, before they started recording second assists. If I'm reading correctly, he won the Cup 4 times (but this was in the challenge days, so it happened more than once a year).
His calling card for the ATD, however, is 8 FASTs in the PCHA. Split league, yes, but that still likely shakes out to the equivalent of 4 FASTs and 4 SASTs!

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No Kharlamov?


Also, I might be interested in trading down from 186, but we'll see. You can float me an offer but I doubt I'll accept it yet.
I meant of the guys who aren't already on the list.

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Really sorry to hear about your situation VanI. I'm rooting for you to pull out of this and come through stronger!! Best of luck sir.

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Inglewood selects a three-time First Team Allstar and Hart-winning defenceman.

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Really sorry to hear about your situation VanI. I'm rooting for you to pull out of this and come through stronger!! Best of luck sir.
I've been in his shoes. In my younger years, I took an ill-advised job at a resort 5 or 6 hours of town for the fall/winter. From the moment I moved there, I was given the run-around- first the bell boy was sick, then another one was on vacation, etc. etc. After two weeks, management admitted the job they'd hired me for was actually not available, but would I like to try house-keeping?

I packed all my stuff into a cab and got outta there. I was broke and had few possessions, and ended up moving in with my dad until I got back on my feet.

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I love Chara and I am a huge fan. Also I think he is a good pick at this point. God Bless Canada said Pronger was unique for his size. Chara is a FREAK. Big and mean and good. Not as recklessly violent as Pronger but he can throw down with anyone.

The question mark for me is playoffs. He just really does not have any even good playoffs. He seemed with injured or mentally unable to come through in the playoffs for Ottawa and Boston is the 2nd best team in the NHL and they can't get to the final.

Like I said, I am a huge fan of Chara. But I really do think there are some question marks about him in performing under pressure in big games. Looking at say Ovechkin... with a far shorter career and one playoffs he was unbelievable for them however. Iginla has the Game 7 of the Stanley Cup final... he had a Smythe worthy playoff on his resume. Chara IMO has never even played well in the playoffs let alone exceptionally. I'd love to see him go all Pronger and take the Bruins to the final or the Cup but he has never been close to doing this in Ottawa or Boston.

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So close, yet so far.

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