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04-07-2004, 03:25 AM
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The next Brett Hull, Adam Deadmarsh, Brady Murray?

Who would you say is going to be the next player to represent a country they weren't born in?

FYI, Hull, Deadmarsh, Murray were all born in Canada but have represented the U.S.A. That's why I came up with that title for the thread, couldn't think of anything better.

Hopefully we can get some International players like Peter Bondra (born in Ukraine, plays for Slovakia.)

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Some names...

Prospects:
Alexander Steen (born in Canada, plays for Sweden)
Robert Nilsson (born in Canada, plays for Sweden)
Kevin Kantee (born in U.S.A., plays for Finland)
Brady Murray (born in Canada, plays for U.S.A.)
Dmitri Patzold (born in Kazakhstan, plays for Germany)
Wojtek Wolski (born in Poland, plays for Canada)
Patrick O'Sullivan (born in Canada, plays for U.S.A.)

NHL players:
Brett Hull (born in Canada, plays for U.S.A.)
Adam Deadmarsh (born in Canada, plays for U.S.A.)
Peter Bondra (born in Ukraine, played for Slovakia)
Robyn Regehr (born in Brazil, plays for Canada)
Owen Nolan (born in Ireland, plays for Canada)
Olaf Kolzig (born in South Africa, plays for Germany)
Steve Thomas (born in England, plays for Canada)
Dany Heatley (born in West Germany, plays for Canada)
Petr Nedved (born in Czech Republic, plays (played) for Canada)
Richard Park (born in South Korea, plays for U.S.A.)
Mike Knuble (born in Canada, plays for U.S.A.)
Eric Chouinard (born in U.S.A., plays for Canada)

Retired:
Bryan Trottier (born in Canada, played for U.S.A./Canada)
Stan Mikita (born in Slovakia, played for Canada)
Rod Langway (born in Taiwan, played for U.S.A.)


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hmm.. if Markus Naslund's/Mattias Ohlund's kids ever get into hockey I'm sure they'll play for Sweden even tho I think they were born in Vancouver.

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Whatever players are mentioned, I'll add to that list.

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Petr Nedved (czech) played for Canada in '94

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hmm.. if Markus Naslund's/Mattias Ohlund's kids ever get into hockey I'm sure they'll play for Sweden even tho I think they were born in Vancouver.
I'm pretty sure most players kids would do the same like Alfredsson's little boy.

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I think this was a question for the next players to do it, maybe someone like Steen playing for Sweden at the World Championships, or Vanek playing for the US

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Added 3 more: Eric Chouinard, Mike Knuble, and Richard Park.

As well as a prospect, Wojtek Wolski.

Chouinard's father played for the Atlanta Flames when he was born... his father was obviously from Quebec, and he played for Team Canada at one of the WJC I think... he grew up in Quebec.

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I don't understand the fascination with where players were born? If my mother gave birth to me while on holiday in Kuwait, that doesn't make me one bit Kuwaiti. All that matters, imo, is your parents' nationalities, and to a lesser extent where you grew up.

It really annoys me all the standardized reports/picture captions saying things like "Dany Heatley, of Germany"... HE'S CANADIAN DAMMIT. His parents went to Germany for 3 years, but he has 0% German blood and is a Canadian citizen.

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Nolan is not from Ireland, he's from Northern Ireland. Peter Stastny was born in Czechoslovakia (the Slovakian part) but has played for Team Canada as well. Kevin Brown was born in England and I think he represented Canada, possibly in the Speingler Cup.

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I think this was a question for the next players to do it, maybe someone like Steen playing for Sweden at the World Championships, or Vanek playing for the US
Vanek has already played internationally for Austria.
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BTW you can add Vanek to your list anyway, Leafaholix.

Thomas was born in the Czechoslovakia, but than later on his family moved to Austria.

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I think it's more important to note where they were raised.

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I think it's more important to note where they were raised.
Exactly. Brett Hull and Adam Deadmarsh are unusual situations because they were both raised mostly in Canada, but play(ed) for the US. Most of the guys on the list were only born in a certain country, but were mostly raised in the country they now play for. Nothing unusual about that IMO. I guess Alexander Steen would be the best example though. He spent a fair bit of time growing up in Canada, 10+ years.


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yo leafaholix are you still doing my all time player draft or what? and clean out your PM's...

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Francis Bouillon ?? born in U.S.A plays for Canada

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I find it more intriguing why the thread title points to three Canadian-born players, rather than being entitled "The next Olaf Kolzig, Tony Iob, or Gates Orlando" thread...

What is the obsession with the nationality of a player's birth?

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Francis Bouillon ?? born in U.S.A plays for Canada

Are you sure? I'm almost positive he played for the U.S. at the World Championships in the past.

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I don't understand the fascination with where players were born? If my mother gave birth to me while on holiday in Kuwait, that doesn't make me one bit Kuwaiti. All that matters, imo, is your parents' nationalities, and to a lesser extent where you grew up.

It really annoys me all the standardized reports/picture captions saying things like "Dany Heatley, of Germany"... HE'S CANADIAN DAMMIT. His parents went to Germany for 3 years, but he has 0% German blood and is a Canadian citizen.
I think you should be proud of your Kuwaiti roots. Any chance you might play hockey for them?

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I think you should be proud of your Kuwaiti roots. Any chance you might play hockey for them?
Not a bad idea. Even if he sucks, he's still make the team.

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Brady Murray has said himself he only lived 4 years out of his life in Canada and consideres himself to be American.

The alltime worst ones are Nedved, Stastny and Trottier who switched sides well into pro careers. Hull and Deadmarsh were both cut by Team Canada as 16 year old junior players and chose to use the option of playing for the USA. Can't really blame them.

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Brady Murray has said himself he only lived 4 years out of his life in Canada and consideres himself to be American.

The alltime worst ones are Nedved, Stastny and Trottier who switched sides well into pro careers. Hull and Deadmarsh were both cut by Team Canada as 16 year old junior players and chose to use the option of playing for the USA. Can't really blame them.
Murray was not cut, he just wasn't guaranteed a spot.

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I find it more intriguing why the thread title points to three Canadian-born players, rather than being entitled "The next Olaf Kolzig, Tony Iob, or Gates Orlando" thread...

What is the obsession with the nationality of a player's birth?
Because the Hull, Deadmarsh, and Murray's situations are better known. Especially considering not many people know Kolzig's situation and nobody has a clue who Iob and Orlando are.

If you don't care to contribute, then stay away.

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Because the Hull, Deadmarsh, and Murray's situations are better known. Especially considering not many people know Kolzig's situation and nobody has a clue who Iob and Orlando are.

If you don't care to contribute, then stay away.
I know who Tony Iob is. He is a tough SOB who was a pretty good goal scorer. He beat the tar out of Eric Lindros in one of my personal all time favorite fights. I can't believe he never got a fair shake in the NHL.

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Brady Murray has said himself he only lived 4 years out of his life in Canada and consideres himself to be American.
Maybe you'd like to read the requirements to make the list.

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I can't find anything about Thomas Vanek being born in the Czech-Republic.

The TSN website is the only place that has "place of birth", and it says Graz, Austria. The Minnesota website has Graz as his hometown as well.

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