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10-02-2009, 05:07 PM
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I would personaly try him before Breezer.
I agree. The biggest place that losing Markov is going to be felt is on the PP and Bergeron would be fine with bottom pairing minutes and PP specialist.

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10-02-2009, 05:08 PM
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I posted this in another section, but it certainly fits here as well...

With Markov out for over half the season and placed on the LTIR, it frees up approximately $3 million in cap hit. Add the $2+ million the Habs already have, they can rather easily spend around $4 million for a replacement.

Keeping in mind that most defensemen in Montreal are left handed, they'd likely want a right handed shot, so some possibilities in no particular order (more or less realistic I'll admit):
  • Tom Gilbert, EDM ($4M cap hit) - Right handed. Not so sure the Oilers would let him go, although they might like the idea of having Andrei Kostitsyn.

  • Kevin Bieksa, VAN ($3.75M cap hit) - Right handed. Top points producer on defense last year, not so sure the Canucks would want to part with him although his play has regressed in the second half last year.

  • Sami Salo, VAN ($3.5M cap hit) - Right handed. This is a more likely opportunity. He would come relatively cheap due mostly to his glass frame, his constant struggle to stay healthy.

  • Marek Zidlicky, MIN ($3.35M cap hit) - Right handed. Minnesota is deep on defense but I'm still not sure if they'd part with him though. UFA at season's end.

  • Brett Clark, COL ($3.5M cap hit) - Left handed. After an excellent season two years ago, his production dropped drastically last year but so did everyone on the Avalanche. UFA at season's end.

  • Ruslan Salei, COL ($3.025M cap hit) - Left handed. Apparently wasn't dressed for last night's game, the Avalanche's season opener.


Not much to get very excited about I'll say, but some potential options that could be available at the rigth price perhaps.

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I want Grebeshkov...

deal S.kost + a pick to edm for him.


strikes me as a young markov "lite"... not as good in the defensive zone, yet, but has all the tools to keep progressing.

edm has somewhat of a glut of offensive producing dmen, they could afford to move him and have the space to use Kost in their top 9, not too mention his potential chemistry with gagne

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I agree. The biggest place that losing Markov is going to be felt is on the PP and Bergeron would be fine with bottom pairing minutes and PP specialist.
Weber? At least he's not mentally challenged defensively like Bergeron.

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10-02-2009, 05:10 PM
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I would personaly try him before Breezer.
also mentioned Christian Backman..Panthers let him go Sept 30

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1637

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Could we get him for a conditional pick at this point ?
Depending on the condition I suppose.. I don't see where MVR fits in right now on the Leafs, and I could see Burke moving him somewhere where he'd be able to get ice time, he pulls those kinda moves if he thinks he's got someone unfairly buried. MVR is decent, he really did play great for us when he wasn't in traction last year.

Doubt it would take much more then a mid pick or something. Could be a fit?

Of course.. do the Leafs want to make a trade to Montreal that helps fill a major hole? Probably not, methinks.

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10-02-2009, 05:16 PM
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also mentioned Christian Backman..Panthers let him go Sept 30

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Doug, answer my question over what Bobby Mac said from page 1 please.

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Weber? At least he's not mentally challenged defensively like Bergeron.
this!!!

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Bob Mackenzie is saying that Breeeezer has an option and Gainey thinking about it .....


wadda ya think about that....

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Doug, answer my question over what Bobby Mac said from page 1 please.
i though it was already answered?

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What's the need of having defensive depth in the minors if we pick up any 6th-7th dman before giving them a chance?

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That's not what I heard him say, it was more speculation than anything and on LCN Brisebois apparently said he'd consider it if Gainey was to ask him to combeack so if Mckenzie said that, it's false, Brisebois didn't offer his service to anyone...

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Doug, answer my question over what Bobby Mac said from page 1 please.
Check post #27

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What's the need of having defensive depth in the minors if we pick up any 6th-7th dman before giving them a chance?
If it was for a few weeks, that's what I'd say. But we're talking about over half the season here. There's no way that one of our young guns can step in for those minutes.

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10-02-2009, 05:46 PM
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If it was for a few weeks, that's what I'd say. But we're talking about over half the season here. There's no way that one of our young guns can step in for those minutes.
The rookies can fill the minutes just like any 6th-7th dmen we could get. If we replace Markov through a trade, we better get a top 4, otherwise it doesn't make sense (especially since we still have six healthy defensemen).

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What's the need of having defensive depth in the minors if we pick up any 6th-7th dman before giving them a chance?
Because the guys in the minors are still developing. Weber is the only one close. There is still a long season ahead of us and our other 6 D are not immune to injury either so i think picking up another D is necessary.

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Any way we can pry Ryan Suter out of Nashville?
Unless you're willing to deal AKost, probably not.

We have 3 good rookies who can fill in if needed.. Weber can do the job on the PP.

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The most salary we can add is 1.8 M, which is our current cap space. Obviously that total increases as we go along into the season.
If Markov is on LTIR then we can deduct his salary, right? Personally I'd sign MA Bergeron to a one-year cheap contract. He could rotate in and out as 7th dman and provide depth. Weber and Subban need to play every day.

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How about putting Weber on the 4th line since Moen has moved to the third. You use Weber on the point for PP. We then have 7 D dressed in case one plays lousy you move Weber up. It workerd well with Streit until he wanted to be a D only

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The rookies can fill the minutes just like any 6th-7th dmen we could get. If we replace Markov through a trade, we better get a top 4, otherwise it doesn't make sense (especially since we still have six healthy defensemen).
And that's what I had in mind... preferably right handed.

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Weber? At least he's not mentally challenged defensively like Bergeron.
MAB has a few defensive brain cramps but he managed to be a plus 5 last season under Lemaire. Martin would be able to reign him in to be a useful player. Pair him with Gill and at least one of the players would be able to clear the front of the net. He's not the worst of the options I've heard (hello Patrice).

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