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12-16-2009, 02:41 PM
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Kronwall and Franzén skate!

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12-16-2009, 04:11 PM
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Zetterberg injured after hit by Öhlund. ****ing judas.

Could be gone for a while (months?) according to McKenzie.

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12-17-2009, 10:12 PM
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I've heard substitutions can be made to the list that was released a few months ago.. at least that's what I've read.

Though too late in the game now though Markus Naslund is above a PPG pace in the SEL and that's without playing with Foppa for most of the games.

Foppa and Macke team up and win Gold in Vancouver then win SEL Gold... ahh how awesome would that be?

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Zetterberg injured after hit by Öhlund. ****ing judas.

Could be gone for a while (months?) according to McKenzie.
Matt's just sorting out the softies.


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12-19-2009, 02:39 PM
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My picks for a team.


Sedin - Sedin - Alfredsson
Forsberg - Bäckström - Weinhandl
Holmström - Zetterberg - (Franzen)
Sjöström - Påhlsson - Eriksson
Huselius

Lidström - Kronwall
Enström - Tallinder
Öhlund - Hedman
Murray

Lundqvist
Gustavsson
Markström


This is my team:> Make it happen!

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12-19-2009, 02:50 PM
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Might as well post my team.

Eriksson - Bäckström - Alfredsson
Holmström - Zetterberg - Weinhandl
Sedin - Sedin - Samuelsson
Sjöström - Påhlsson - Hörnqvist
(Franzén)

Lidström - Kronwall
Öhlund - Edler
Murray - Enström
(Tallinder)

Lundqvist
Gustavsson
Markström

Nope, no Forsberg. Just not feeling it.

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12-19-2009, 06:44 PM
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Might as well post my team.

Eriksson - Bäckström - Alfredsson
Holmström - Zetterberg - Weinhandl
Sedin - Sedin - Samuelsson
Sjöström - Påhlsson - Hörnqvist
(Franzén)

Lidström - Kronwall
Öhlund - Edler
Murray - Enström
(Tallinder)

Lundqvist
Gustavsson
Markström

Nope, no Forsberg. Just not feeling it.
Why not?

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12-20-2009, 01:38 AM
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Why not?
For one why bring a player who you have no idea if he will be able to play?

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12-20-2009, 04:54 AM
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Weinhandl on small ice... That's just wrong. You guys have lots of players who do better than him. If it was the world champs, why not? But this is the olympics and it sure does devalue the view other countries have on sweden if swedes feel they have no one better to put there.

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Weinhandl on small ice... That's just wrong. You guys have lots of players who do better than him. If it was the world champs, why not? But this is the olympics and it sure does devalue the view other countries have on sweden if swedes feel they have no one better to put there.
while i think that his progress the last years in russia had a lot to do with the bigger rink size, i really wonder how he would do in smaller ice these days.
to me it seemed that the bigger ice works better for his limited vision. but the way he's playing, i would risk taking him for the olympics as gamble.
don't forget that while it's on small ice, it's still IIHF rules and less grit than in NHL/AHL.

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12-20-2009, 12:25 PM
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For one why bring a player who you have no idea if he will be able to play?
Although I realize that he is going, personally I would rather not have all the "Is he in? Is he out?" chaos surrounding my team.

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Although I realize that he is going, personally I would rather not have all the "Is he in? Is he out?" chaos surrounding my team.
when was the last time he played more than 3-4 games in a row?

forsberg making the team would be a slap in the face for those who play hockey more than 9 games per year.

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12-20-2009, 12:49 PM
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while i think that his progress the last years in russia had a lot to do with the bigger rink size, i really wonder how he would do in smaller ice these days.
to me it seemed that the bigger ice works better for his limited vision. but the way he's playing, i would risk taking him for the olympics as gamble.
don't forget that while it's on small ice, it's still IIHF rules and less grit than in NHL/AHL.
Ehmm... I second you on your first assumption but will respectfully disagree with the last statement.

If I recall correctly, last OGs, they had NHL refs, who did excellent in all the games, and I believe they will do great again.

To assume that we will have any less grit in the OG's, expecially when teams like Russia, Canada, Finland or Team USA involved, is the classic Swedish mistake... The Swedes are standing on the bench waiving the rule book and complaining while the opponents are sending three guys into battle to push puck, goalie and possible defensemen into the net to win. Media will again talk about conspiracy, scandals, and corruption, and fans will complain about goon hockey becasue it doesn't look like when VSK plays Bollnäs in the SEL.

On that note, I don't see Weinhandl fit the mix.... or maybe that's just what I do.

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12-20-2009, 12:50 PM
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Weinhandl on small ice... That's just wrong. You guys have lots of players who do better than him. If it was the world champs, why not? But this is the olympics and it sure does devalue the view other countries have on sweden if swedes feel they have no one better to put there.
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12-20-2009, 01:26 PM
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Seriously no doubt Markström is a great goalie but why exactly should he be the third string over Enroth & Larsson? Both were amazing in SEL before heading overseas and have matured on smaller rinks the last couple of years. Kinda hard to believe they are worse now, not to say better? I obviously don't watch the AHL, but it is just hard to believe Markström got so much on them. Both went through the J20 process aswell.

I doubt he will anyways, since he hasn't even played in the EHT(I think?). No need to rush the kid, he could use a break seeing what he has in front of him already this season.

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Seriously no doubt Markström is a great goalie but why exactly should he be the third string over Enroth & Larsson? Both were amazing in SEL before heading overseas and have matured on smaller rinks the last couple of years. Kinda hard to believe they are worse now, not to say better? I obviously don't watch the AHL, but it is just hard to believe Markström got so much on them. Both went through the J20 process aswell.

I doubt he will anyways, since he hasn't even played in the EHT(I think?). No need to rush the kid, he could use a break seeing what he has in front of him already this season.

He has surpassed Enroth and Larsson this season imo. And he is sickly skilled and talented. But maybe Ersberg should be no. 3. Liv will be, I'm sure.


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Given players in bold plus candidates:


Forsberg 10323 - Zetterberg 12799 - Weinhandl 9309
Sedin 12474 - Sedin 12582 - Samuelsson 7498
Eriksson 9394 - Bäckström 12646 - Alfredsson 12399


plus 4 of:

Franzén 10943 - Påhlsson 7305 - Holmström 11309
Huselius 7125 - Steen 2282 - Hörnqvist 2375
Axelsson 2674 - Davidsson 2255 - Sjöström 1563
Lundqvist 491 - Mårtensson 2065 - Persson 483


---------------------------------------------


Lidström 12503
Kronwall 11321
Öhlund 8648

plus:

2 of Murray 9688, Oduya 6207 and Hedman 6152
1 of Enström 5950, Strålman 4341 and Edler 4129
1 of Ericsson 4051, Tallinder 2938, Hjalmarsson 1424 and Grossman 1421


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He has surpassed Enroth and Larsson this season imo. And he is sickly skilled and talented. But maybe Ersberg should be no. 3. Liv will be, I'm sure.
Out of curiousoty, how much have you seen Enroth and Larsson this year to make that assessment?

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He has surpassed Enroth and Larsson this season imo. And he is sickly skilled and talented. But maybe Ersberg should be no. 3. Liv will be, I'm sure.
I think last night said it all to support my statement. He can't stay calm with some juniors driving the net so how could he possibly handle NHL stars running the crease over and over. These types of plays don't exist in the SEL, so he doesn't have a clue how to deal with em. He doesn't have those important NA years like Larsson and Enroth.


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when was the last time he played more than 3-4 games in a row?

forsberg making the team would be a slap in the face for those who play hockey more than 9 games per year.
A guy playing like 5 games but still is better than 95% of the others is surely slapping them in the face - skill wise.

Seriously, if he is healthy enough he will be with the team, otherwise not. He has rather high standards set for himself so I trust any decision.

Weinhandl with the Sedins will be a fun thing to see though.

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while i think that his progress the last years in russia had a lot to do with the bigger rink size, i really wonder how he would do in smaller ice these days.
to me it seemed that the bigger ice works better for his limited vision. but the way he's playing, i would risk taking him for the olympics as gamble.
don't forget that while it's on small ice, it's still IIHF rules and less grit than in NHL/AHL.
If I recall, he was probably one of the better players in the Quebec WC -08.

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If I recall, he was probably one of the better players in the Quebec WC -08.
I believe he was, scored the sudden goal against Czech's in the quarter. I don't see the rink size as a problem. Also he's a RW which makes him perfect with the Sedins. Then we got Bäckström and Zetterberg centering each line with Alfredsson, Franzén, Forsberg and Eriksson.

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I believe he was, scored the sudden goal against Czech's in the quarter. I don't see the rink size as a problem. Also he's a RW which makes him perfect with the Sedins. Then we got Bäckström and Zetterberg centering each line with Alfredsson, Franzén, Forsberg and Eriksson.
I know that my input on our Euro players is about as popular as a turd in a punch bowl, but if last night didn't remind everybody of why the stat sheets from all the Euro leagues matter not, I don't know what wake up call we need.

The fact that Weinhandl did well against the Czechs in Quebec-08 is super. Thank you. Against the Canadian team however... not so much, and let's face it, the heads to have in Vancouver to get the gold will be:

*CHAMPIONS: SWEDEN*

Contenders:
1. Canada
2. Russia
3. Team USA
4. Finland
x. Czechs, Slovakia, Latvia, Schweiz, Belarus, etc.
x+1. Norway

I know the entire nation will go off about Canadian corruption, dirty play, and IIHF's rulebook, etc. after the fact, but that will not help Weinhandl then. I like him and would like to see him healthy and able to play hockey after the olympics, so I don't think Vancouver is a good place for him to be, as anything but a tourist.

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I know that my input on our Euro players is about as popular as a turd in a punch bowl, but if last night didn't remind everybody of why the stat sheets from all the Euro leagues matter not, I don't know what wake up call we need.
yeah, i changed my mind. sweden needs tougher guys. and since i'm totally unbiased, unlike all other here, i can make better choices. and that's why i suggest marcus kristoffersson.


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