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Nope, but if Washington is a buyer at the deadline and they go for Volchenkov, I doubt they would trade any key pieces of their team. The return would probably be picks/prospects, as with most other deadline deals.
Yeah, the best they could give up in terms of "proven" players is someone like Fleischmann (or Morrisonn/Jurcina if you're talking D).
That's the rub. Volchenkov isn't signed longterm. He's a UFA after this season. As a result, I'm almost positive Brooks Laich by himself would have more value than Volchenkov at the deadline.
I said it right in my post. If Volchenkov was signed long-term would you take any of those players over Volchenkov? It's assuming Washington can get him locked up because it seems very likely that Ottawa can re-sign Volchenkov.
Why would we give up Volchenkov signed long-term for Brooks Laich?
I said it right in my post. If Volchenkov was signed long-term would you take any of those players over Volchenkov? It's assuming Washington can get him locked up because it seems very likely that Ottawa can re-sign Volchenkov.
Why would we give up Volchenkov signed long-term for Brooks Laich?
Huh? That assumption is useless. He's not signed longterm. If he were signed longterm, this discussion wouldn't be relevant.
A pending UFA Volchenkov isn't worth as much as Brooks Laich at this year's deadline. I never said Ottawa would give up Volchenkov for Laich, but I'd venture to guess the Laich would fetch more in a trade if both were offered up to all 29 other teams.
Huh? That assumption is useless. He's not signed longterm. If he were signed longterm, this discussion wouldn't be relevant.
A pending UFA Volchenkov isn't worth as much as Brooks Laich at this year's deadline. I never said Ottawa would give up Volchenkov for Laich, but I'd venture to guess the Laich would fetch more in a trade if both were offered up to all 29 other teams.
we're talking about a guy here that every contender will badly want if he is available come deadline. I really dont think laich is far out there, nor do i think osala+flash is that bad.
we're talking about a guy here that every contender will badly want if he is available come deadline. I really dont think laich is far out there, nor do i think osala+flash is that bad.
I'll go ahead and state that there's not a chance the Caps deal Laich for pending UFA, no matter how good the player is. This is a guy that's going to get them 20-25 goals, 50+ points, is captain material, and can play any forward position in all situations. He's their 4th most valuable/important forward by a fair margin.
There's also a pretty decent supply of pending UFA defensemen: Volchenkov, Hamhuis, Michalek, Kubina, Mitchell, Salei, Lydman, etc.
I doubt the Caps (or any organization) is going to overpay significantly for any one of those guys (unless the market thins out with extensions), when they can just move on to another player.
..And the avatar changes periodically, but I applaud you on knowing the reference for my handle.
Heck, Fleischmann, a pick and something else, I'm on board for.
But Carlson and a 1st, not for me, but I can see where people would look for that.
Carlson and a 1st may seem steep, initially.
But we also have to consider that other teams that washington is competing against may also ask for his services. So if Washington really wanted to outbid other eastern teams they would have to overpay.
I can see many teams in the East wanting his services. Including Boston, Carolina, Philadelphia, NewYork, Pittsburgh.
All these teams are all looking for players to shutdown the elite players of the East...Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin, Backstrom, Richards, Carter.
So teams in the East might have to overpay to avoid the other teams to get him. But Washington imo has the greatest need for a shutdown guy.
But we also have to consider that other teams that washington is competing against may also ask for his services. So if Washington really wanted to outbid other eastern teams they would have to overpay.
I can see many teams in the East wanting his services. Including Boston, Carolina, Philadelphia, NewYork, Pittsburgh.
So teams in the East might have to overpay to avoid the other teams to get him. But Washington imo has the greatest need for a shutdown guy.
And when you consider the other defensemen on the market, as I listed above, it deflates that value. Volchenkov isn't the only option that's possibly on the market. In fact, its arguable that he won't even be the best shutdown defenseman available.
Trading Volchenkov to Washington is a dumb move for an Ottawa team that's looking to compete in the Eastern conference. I wouldn't unless the offer was absolutely obscene. We don't really need Laich, Fleischmann etc. because our forward lines are already full (yes, I know we haven't scored many goals yet).
Furthermore, our problem right now is that our defence isn't steady enough - why would we want to deal arguably our steadiest guy?
IF the Sens are out of playoff contention at the deadline, which I think is very unlikely
and
IF the Sens and Volchenkov are irreparably apart in contract negotiations, which I think is even more unlikely,
I still would do everything in my power were I GM to deal him to the Western conference.
I still don't think Ottawa and Washington are good trading partners. Then again, i'm still a little annoyed from the time some caps fans tried to convince us that Poti was better than Volchenkov. I actually had to look the thread up to make sure I wasn't imagining it.
Could some Caps fans enlighten those Sens fans of us that don't know much about Osala or Carlson about them? i.e. what position they play, their strengths and weaknesses?
Could some Caps fans enlighten those Sens fans of us that don't know much about Osala or Carlson about them? i.e. what position they play, their strengths and weaknesses?
Osala - left wing, 6-4', fast for his size, decent enough hands and hockey sense, crashes the net, power forward project who could develop into a very dominant player. So far hasn't proven anything at the NHL level., but didn't get much time either.
Carlson - anywhere from a solid #3 to an elite #1. Puts up a ton of points at any level he's been on while playing a sound defensive game with an edge. Think Bogosian lite. No real weaknesses other than occasionally caught out of position, but not any moreso than you'd expect for a defenseman of his age.
pipe dream?
