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10-13-2009, 02:40 PM
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Assuming the skeleton is North American and is over 6 foot, it's all the same to Burke.
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10-13-2009, 02:43 PM
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No. Gustavsson has a $900k salary this year. His cap hit is $2.5M.
No, Gustavsson does not have a $2.5M cap hit. It's $0.9M. Where are you getting this $2.5M from?

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10-13-2009, 02:47 PM
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No, Gustavsson does not have a $2.5M cap hit. It's $0.9M. Where are you getting this $2.5M from?
Bonuses.

I'd like to see a Galiardi-Duchene-Jones line.
Let O'Reilly center the third, with Mcleod/Stewart and Svatos.

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10-13-2009, 02:51 PM
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Bonuses.
nhlnumbers.com has him at that 0.9M hit with no bonuses. Plus the guy is injured all the time so far, won't reach any bonuses I'd think.

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10-13-2009, 03:23 PM
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nhlnumbers.com has him at that 0.9M hit with no bonuses. Plus the guy is injured all the time so far, won't reach any bonuses I'd think.
Use capgeek. They've got his bonuses listed. They still count against the cap right now, even if it looks like he won't hit them.

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10-13-2009, 03:40 PM
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Bonuses count against the cap until no longer obtainable even if extremely unlikely.

Budaj will let in 2 softies.

Duchene will have 2 great chances and bury neither.

O Reilly will have a terrible giveaway resulting in a goal against.

Tucker will score

Svatos will be invisible.

Wolski will get benched.

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10-13-2009, 03:46 PM
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nhlnumbers.com has him at that 0.9M hit with no bonuses. Plus the guy is injured all the time so far, won't reach any bonuses I'd think.
Yeah, there's only 77 games left in the season. Gustavsson is already ****ed if he was planning on hitting bonuses this season. What's even worse for him is that Toskala might be hurt from having a guy cross-checked into him last night, which will significantly limit the chances for Gustavsson to get playing time.

And for those skeptical about him having bonuses due to some information on some website, think about how hotly he was pursued this off-season. If his agent didn't get the entry-level contract full of performance bonuses, he needs to be fired right away.

On a more factual note, goaltender bonuses are not aggregate based (once the 30 games barrier is crossed), but average based, so if the Leafs D figures out their problems (a big IF, admittedly), there's no reason why Gustavsson can't hit those bonuses.

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10-13-2009, 04:23 PM
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Bonuses count against the cap until no longer obtainable even if extremely unlikely.

Budaj will let in 2 softies.

Duchene will have 2 great chances and bury neither.

O Reilly will have a terrible giveaway resulting in a goal against.

Tucker will score

Svatos will be invisible.

Wolski will get benched.
Those are all really safe predictions, except, I think Wolski will have another really good game. He is an Ontario boy and I bet him and Duchene play really good games.

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10-13-2009, 04:28 PM
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Meh, Stewart has just never crossed me as a guy that will get out of the fifteen goal range.
He had 11 in 53 games on a line with Ben Guite...

I do agree that Jones is probably the best fit for Duchene's line mate, notably because of his speed.

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10-13-2009, 04:32 PM
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He had 11 in 53 games on a line with Ben Guite...

I do agree that Jones is probably the best fit for Duchene's line mate, notably because of his speed.
And? The fact that he never got off that line shows something about his goal scoring ability.

Anybody that believes Stewart will someday be a sixty, seventy point scorer and score thirty goals is kidding themselves. He will one season cap out at around thirty-five points, and that's about it. His eleven in fifty-three is much like McLeod's fifteen last season.

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10-13-2009, 04:35 PM
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Any word on whether Hensick gets back in and if Wilson gets to play?

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10-13-2009, 04:43 PM
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What's even worse for him is that Toskala might be hurt from having a guy cross-checked into him last night, which will significantly limit the chances for Gustavsson to get playing time.
Wouldn't that increase his chances of getting playing time?

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10-13-2009, 04:53 PM
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Wouldn't that increase his chances of getting playing time?
I do believe that was sarcasm.

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10-13-2009, 04:57 PM
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And? The fact that he never got off that line shows something about his goal scoring ability.

Anybody that believes Stewart will someday be a sixty, seventy point scorer and score thirty goals is kidding themselves. He will one season cap out at around thirty-five points, and that's about it. His eleven in fifty-three is much like McLeod's fifteen last season.
And...you said you can never see him scoring 15, when his 11 in 53 was pace for 17. In his rookie season. Mostly playing with grinders.

No one thought that when he was drafted, and no one thinks that now. His ceiling is probably 25-30 goal, 50 point seasons.

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10-13-2009, 05:01 PM
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I do believe that was sarcasm.

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10-13-2009, 05:03 PM
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And...you said you can never see him scoring 15, when his 11 in 53 was pace for 17. In his rookie season. Mostly playing with grinders.

No one thought that when he was drafted, and no one thinks that now. His ceiling is probably 25-30 goal, 50 point seasons.
I believe my words were I never saw him getting out of the fifteen goal window. Fifteen goal window incorporates 10-20, or even 13-17 if you want to nitpick.

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10-13-2009, 05:04 PM
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Why all the hate for Stewie? No one herd of a slow start, or sophmore curse? Hell he is a power forward and it may be a few more years before we see what he can actually do. For now the fact that he made the team has already surpassed my expectations.

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10-13-2009, 05:05 PM
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And? The fact that he never got off that line shows something about his goal scoring ability.

Anybody that believes Stewart will someday be a sixty, seventy point scorer and score thirty goals is kidding themselves. He will one season cap out at around thirty-five points, and that's about it. His eleven in fifty-three is much like McLeod's fifteen last season.
I hate reading posts like this. On the one hand, I can't help but agreeing to an extent, because Stewart will never be a superstar. On the other hand, he's 21 years old. Give him a freaking break. Assuming he keeps improving year-by-year, he'll have at least 5 years to figure out how to get better and make a bigger impact in the NHL. You're basically arguing that Stewart's 11 goals will be his career year. He was 21! Not many guys have career years that early, especially power forwards.

You sound like the kind of guy who would say after Jarome Iginla's 13-goal season in 1997-98 (when he was 21) that Iginla's a bust and would never be a star in the NHL.

Assuming Duchene continues to develop over the next couple years, there's no reason to believe that his wingers won't be the beneficiaries of some easy goals created by his speed and playmaking ability. If Stewart's on that wing for any length of time, 11 goals will be easy.

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10-13-2009, 05:15 PM
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Anderson starting according to ADater's twitter

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2009...gainst-leaves/

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10-13-2009, 05:19 PM
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Anderson starting according to ADater's twitter

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2009...gainst-leaves/
Interesting. I thought Peter was going in for sure, back to back games, plus he played his Junior hockey in Toronto.

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Interesting. I thought Peter was going in for sure, back to back games, plus he played his Junior hockey in Toronto.
Didn't Sacco say he was going to play on the road. What better time??

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I'm glad Anderson is starting. If Colorado wants any shot at making the playoffs, they have to pick up points against teams like Toronto. The 3-1-1 start isn't good enough to throw in the back-up goalie yet.

If Budaj were to go out there and blow it, suddenly a 3-2-1 record (which is still a strong possibility) is looking pretty crappy, especially with Detroit coming up on Saturday.

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Changing my prediction with Andy in net.

Avs 4 Leaves 2 Duchene still scores.

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Cool to see that AD is on Off The Record

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Anderson starting according to ADater's twitter

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2009...gainst-leaves/
Then he'll start Budaj at Montreal , A cold Goalie against a team that returns home from a bad road trip, on it's home opener after a 4 days rest ... ouch

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