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10-14-2009, 09:21 PM
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Patrick Sharp to Edmonton

Edmonton need's that special type of forward as we have too many of the same types of guys ( Gagner, Cogliano, O'Sullivan, Comrie, Nilsson, Eberle ) I thought perhaps a type of player like Nathan Horton would be the right player and yet he still may be but he's deffiently not showing it in Florida.

Chicago is very tight against the cap and they need to make cap space to re sign Toews and Kane who COULD deffiently get UP TO $5 - 6.5M a peice.
Sharp has a cap hit of $3.9M and still has 2 more years under contract.

My question is does Chicago look for prospects or are they looking for UFA type players to make sure they have the cap space required to sign their young guns?
Either way I wouldn't expect Chicago to pull a trade till the trade deadline or even the draft but you had to think their gm's really sweating to get those boys signed long term as his job would deffiently be on the line as Toews and Kane are to Chicago as Ovechkin is to Washington, Crosby is to Pittsburgh etc.

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Also if Patrick Sharp isn't available how about a player like Troy Brouwer?


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I doubt Patrick Sharp is the first, second, or third options on who to trade to get cap space. I would think Byfuglien, Bolland, and Versteeg in that order would go before Sharp.

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hahaha. Good luck, no chance.

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It won't happen. If someone eats Sharp's contract it won't be enough to solve the Hawks problems. Edmonton would love to have Sharp, but they lack the cap space and Chicaca doesn't need anything of Edmonton's badly enough to make a deal.

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sharp is chicago's best value contract. He's not going to be the one to move.

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It won't happen. If someone eats Sharp's contract it won't be enough to solve the Hawks problems. Edmonton would love to have Sharp, but they lack the cap space and Chicaca doesn't need anything of Edmonton's badly enough to make a deal.
Yes it would if they decided to waive Brent Sopel or package him with one of their forwards making 3 mil or more.

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I doubt Patrick Sharp is the first, second, or third options on who to trade to get cap space. I would think Byfuglien, Bolland, and Versteeg in that order would go before Sharp.
Bolland isn't moving anywhere and Byfuglien isn't replacable. Sopel, Versteeg, Barker, Sharp is my list right now.

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Edmonton need's that special type of forward as we have too many of the same types of guys ( Gagner, Cogliano, O'Sullivan, Comrie, Nilsson, Eberle ) I thought perhaps a type of player like Nathan Horton would be the right player and yet he still may be but he's deffiently not showing it in Florida.

Chicago is very tight against the cap and they need to make cap space to re sign Toews and Kane who COULD deffiently get UP TO $5 - 6.5M a peice.
Sharp has a cap hit of $3.9M and still has 2 more years under contract.

My question is does Chicago look for prospects or are they looking for UFA type players to make sure they have the cap space required to sign their young guns?
Either way I wouldn't expect Chicago to pull a trade till the trade deadline or even the draft but you had to think their gm's really sweating to get those boys signed long term as his job would deffiently be on the line as Toews and Kane are to Chicago as Ovechkin is to Washington, Crosby is to Pittsburgh etc.
I have to think they are sweating it much like Boston was. I can't see Chicago wanting much from the Oilers. I think what could get a deal done is a package of picks. Something like:

Hawks get Oilers 2010 first and second, 2011 second

Oilers get Sharp

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Bolland isn't moving anywhere and Byfuglien isn't replacable. Sopel, Versteeg, Barker, Sharp is my list right now.
I would assume one forward would be out the door during the off-season. It doesn't make much sense to have 7 forwards making 3 mil plus. That's why I threw Byfuglien and Bolland in there. My thoughts are just going on contracts and generally the newer ones don't get moved that quickly. That's why I would lean towards Byfuglien before Bolland or Versteeg but he can bust out this year and change all of that. However, if Bolland and Versteeg produce similarly, who knows?

I think Sopel is automatic either through a trade or through waivers. With Hjalmarsson stepping up, it is certainly possible to ship out Barker as well.

But with Sharp, unless they get a sweetheart deal where they can ship out Sopel with him and get good value at a low cost back, I don't see it happening.

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I can think of 29 other teams in the league that would like to add Sharp to their roster, and that's just off of the top of my head.

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I didn't see the game tonight but Sharp obviously played well?


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Sharp, Huet for O'Sullivan, Khabibulin,

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Sharp, Huet for O'Sullivan, Khabibulin,
What exactly would that trade accomplish, to make it worth it for either team?

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Sharp, Huet for O'Sullivan, Khabibulin,
yea know.. not just because we just signed Khabi but it's just brutal.

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Sopel obviously, Barker and...not Sharp.

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Sharp isn't going anywhere.

I know 29 teams are having pipe dreams about getting him, but he just isn't.

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What exactly would that trade accomplish, to make it worth it for either team?
Hawks get Khabibulin, Oilers get Sharp. Hawks get cap relief, Oilers get Sharp.

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The Oilers couldn't get Sharp, even if they offered Hemsky for him. Sharp is a goal scorer with wheels, who seems to be able to play and produce with anyone.

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The Oilers couldn't get Sharp, even if they offered Hemsky for him. Sharp is a goal scorer with wheels, who seems to be able to play and produce with anyone.
That's a bit much especially when Hemsky >>> Sharp.
Hemmer is off to a slow start but still has 5 points in 6 games.
Besides Hemsky makes $4Million that contract is amazing for that type of player.

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Sharp, Huet for O'Sullivan, Khabibulin,


I know it's early in the season ... but just wait. You will soon realize that it will cost you a ton to move Khabby's contract. I predict 2 groin pulls and fans screaming by mid march.
Worst part is he is a contract year goalie who will be what 56 - 57 years old when he next comes into a contract year.

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Both teams are going to have cap issues this offseason

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Huet will make the Oilers much worse than they already are. That porous of a goalie will never be offset by Sharps addition

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That's a bit much especially when Hemsky >>> Sharp.
Hemmer is off to a slow start but still has 5 points in 6 games.
Besides Hemsky makes $4Million that contract is amazing for that type of player.
A year or two ago I would say Hemsky > Sharp, but the way Sharp has progressed the last couple of seasons I think Sharp > Hemsky. Hemsky just doesn't seem to be able to take his game to the next level and I'm not sure he ever will. Sharp on the other hand is a better goal scorer and produces regardless of who he plays with.

Plus Sharp makes ~3.9, so contract wise they are pretty much the same (although Hemsky's contract will expire 1 or 2 years? after Sharp).

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That's a bit much especially when Hemsky >>> Sharp.
Hemmer is off to a slow start but still has 5 points in 6 games.
Besides Hemsky makes $4Million that contract is amazing for that type of player.
I disagree, I think Sharp is the better player, it's close, and they are very different types of players, but I'd give the edge to Sharp. No knock on Hemsky, but I just like Sharp's game a little more.

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