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10-14-2009, 08:31 PM
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Malakhov's comments

Anybody have a link for this? Just heard on RIS that Vladimir Malakhow said in a newspaper that the french Habs fans are xenophobes towards Russians and that they believe they are the only ones to know hockey because of the 24 Cups the Habs have.

He also said that Vigneault, at the time, forced him to comeback earlier despite the knee injury he had at the time. Reason why he suggests to Markov to take all the time he needs to comeback....

Did he actually kept all that rage for so long???

There are to be a link somewhere isn't it?

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Thanks.

Geez, it's pretty pathetic especially when he used the Kovalev situation to explain how Russians are so badly treated here....

I'll tell you this might affect how Russians sees the team. Pretty sure Perezhogin didn't like the way it ended as well. Valentenko leaving, Emelin's not coming......We would need some Kovalev or more likely some Markov comments in order to keep our relationship with Russians....we have a few kids we are counting on.....

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Anybody have a link for this? Just heard on RIS that Vladimir Malakhow said in a newspaper that the french Habs fans are xenophobes towards Russians and that they believe they are the only ones to know hockey because of the 24 Cups the Habs have.

He also said that Vigneault, at the time, forced him to comeback earlier despite the knee injury he had at the time. Reason why he suggests to Markov to take all the time he needs to comeback....

Did he actually kept all that rage for so long???

There are to be a link somewhere isn't it?
who???

Seriously, totally free comments that isnt representative of the reality.. We are praising Markov like no one even despite the fact he accomplished nothing in playoffs yet.. some are thinking of him as our next captain, and as far as I know Markov is Russian..

This is not a matter of nationality, what I think Habs fans want the most are players giving their all every shifts, thats it thats all and unfortunately Malakov wasnt known for his working habits..


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everyone thats met malkhov will tell you one thing....he's the worlds biggest d bag...
i've had ppl tell me he's asked ppl to pay him for an autograph
to flat out telling a kid to f-off when he asked for an autograph

this guy though he was a superstar so if he was mistreated here good

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was he the guy skiing while he was injured? (I was pretty young back in the time.)

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Its too bad that guy had a loose cannon head because he had some nice talent.

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I wonder if the knee injury Malakhov is referring to is the same one he went skiing on with his family before coming back to play for the team.

While super skilled, many of the Russians that have played for the Habs have been headcases.

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was he the guy skiing while he was injured? (I was pretty young back in the time.)
pretty sure that was breezer

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pretty sure that was breezer
I think Brisebois went to Paris and Malakhov was skiing.

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pretty sure that was breezer
It happened with Malakhov too. Brisebois wasn't hurt to the knee, he was tired mentally and physically, he needed a break.

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was he the guy skiing while he was injured? (I was pretty young back in the time.)
No, that was Brisebois.

I don't mind Malakhov's comments. However, if he were more fair, he should've said that Montreal Canadiens fans, particularly amongst the French speaking side, idealize a more Francophone team partly because of national pride and partly because most of the Montreal Canadiens success has come from having a more Canadian team.

As for hatred towards Kovalev, I can see where he's coming from. As much as he's loved, he's loathed for 'being lazy' and 'being selfish'; two traits which are falsely associated with Kovalev's character and performance. The biggest fall of Kovalev is that sometimes he tries to be too fancy and that makes him counter productive.

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I think Brisebois went to Paris and Malakhov was skiing.
Yep. However, I'm not sure what was the problem with Brisebois going to Paris... wasn't he injured ?

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No, that was Brisebois.

I don't mind Malakhov's comments. However, if he were more fair, he should've said that Montreal Canadiens fans, particularly amongst the French speaking side, idealize a more Francophone team partly because of national pride and partly because most of the Montreal Canadiens success has come from having a more Canadian team.

As for hatred towards Kovalev, I can see where he's coming from. As much as he's loved, he's loathed for 'being lazy' and 'being selfish'; two traits which are falsely associated with Kovalev's character and performance. The biggest fall of Kovalev is that sometimes he tries to be too fancy and that makes him counter productive.
Kovalev's been labeled that way because he's russian, that's the prejudice against russian players : Lazy and selfish. I've heard it many times about many different russian players.

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I think Brisebois went to Paris and Malakhov was skiing.
Right answer!

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Anybody have a link for this? Just heard on RIS that Vladimir Malakhow said in a newspaper that the french Habs fans are xenophobes towards Russians and that they believe they are the only ones to know hockey because of the 24 Cups the Habs have.

He also said that Vigneault, at the time, forced him to comeback earlier despite the knee injury he had at the time. Reason why he suggests to Markov to take all the time he needs to comeback....

Did he actually kept all that rage for so long???

There are to be a link somewhere isn't it?
He's totally wrong they aren't xenophobes towards Russians, but rather towards anyone who is not Quebecois. I don't think the xenophobes in the habs fan base cherry pick a particular group to not like, unless you can call "everyone who's not like me" a group. And I'd argue its not the majority of french habs fans but a very vocal minority.

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Kovalev's been labeled that way because he's russian, that's the prejudice against russian players : Lazy and selfish. I've heard it many times about many different russian players.
says he who lives in Quebec

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Anybody have a link for this? Just heard on RIS that Vladimir Malakhow said in a newspaper that the french Habs fans are xenophobes towards Russians and that they believe they are the only ones to know hockey because of the 24 Cups the Habs have.

He also said that Vigneault, at the time, forced him to comeback earlier despite the knee injury he had at the time. Reason why he suggests to Markov to take all the time he needs to comeback....

Did he actually kept all that rage for so long???

There are to be a link somewhere isn't it?
Considering the **** Jean Perron says on national TV, and the many that eat up his words, I don't find ANYTHING outrageous about Malakhov's comments. Admittedly, he could do without the "francophone" tag, but I'm sure what he meant to say was the FRENCH person that always rags on Russians (PERRON).

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Considering the **** Jean Perron says on national TV, and the many that eat up his words, I don't find ANYTHING outrageous about Malakhov's comments. Admittedly, he could do without the "francophone" tag, but I'm sure what he meant to say was the FRENCH person that always rags on Russians (PERRON).
I'm not even sure 110% existed at that time... and if it existed, at the beginning of 110%, there wasn't any debates.

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I hate this guy but is kinda right when he says that Habs fans think they knows their hockey

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The first Russian to play for the Canadiens was Oleg Petrov in 1992-93 and he was sent to the minors quickly and didn't return until the next year...

He was in and out of the lineup until 1996-97 when he left for Europe. Next, was Malakhov in 1995, Valeri Bure in 1995 and then there was Andrei Kovalenko in 1995 later on.

Who was the first to be blamed for the 1996 first round exit against the Rangers? Why, Kovalenko, of course, and they were clear about that and there were suggestions that it was because of his origins... the heartless Russian stereotype.

I guess they were fair and sacrificed the Quebec player, Pierre Turgeon, next, but with Petrov, Kovalenko and Malakhov and the reputations they got, you can't say that this was a good experience between Russian players and the Canadiens.

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It's pretty pathetic he took some of his own time to phone call Kovalev and try to make sure he didn't sign with us after the lock-out.

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The first Russian to play for the Canadiens was Oleg Petrov in 1992-93 and he was sent to the minors quickly and didn't return until the next year...

He was in and out of the lineup until 1996-97 when he left for Europe. Next, was Malakhov in 1995, Valeri Bure in 1995 and then there was Andrei Kovalenko in 1995 later on.

Who was the first to be blamed for the 1996 first round exit against the Rangers? Why, Kovalenko, of course, and they were clear about that and there were suggestions that it was because of his origins... the heartless Russian stereotype.

I guess they were fair and sacrificed the Quebec player, Pierre Turgeon, next, but with Petrov, Kovalenko and Malakhov and the reputations they got, you can't say that this was a good experience between Russian players and the Canadiens.
Malakhov WAS lazy. Any team that had them said the same: he could have been a Norris trophy winner, but he was too laid back. It's in his nature. Like it's in Guillaume's nature.

As for Kovalenko, like many hockey players (not only russians), he was a known a-hole. Very FEW teammates liked him. It was said in the Colorado room after he left, and in Montreal.

People in Montreal LOVE Markov and ADORED Kovalev, even though they hated his dangling (which they should, because it's not hockey). I mean, I've never seen a hockey player in modern Montreal been able to have a public rally to force the Habs to keep him.

The difference between the Malakhov/Kovalev generation and today's russian one (Like Malkin and Ovechkin) is that they are more intense and exuberant. What used to be a north american trademark is now international.

I guess you guys are too young to remember Boris Mikhailov scoring a game winning goal and not even rising his stick up, or, heck, even smiling.

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I hate this guy but is kinda right when he says that Habs fans think they knows their hockey

They do. Most of them. Moreso than anywhere else in the NHL. If you've visited other rinks, you probably noticed the difference.

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