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10-16-2009, 03:48 PM
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Top 100 Rangers

A buddy of mine recently bought Russ Cohen's brand new book, "100 Ranger Greats". Looks great, and he definitely recommends it for any hockey fan in your life!

I recommend it as well because it will teach you about the blueshirts long rich history I myself own two similar books ....Maple Leafs Top 100 by Mike Leonettti and John Laboni and Ken Campbells the author of Habs Heroes (Top 100 Les Canadiens of All Time) .....and I enjoy them very much!

can any of you name maybe your own top 20 to 50 lists. Do a top 100 if you want to take a stab at it!



btw in russ's book
Duguay was #49 and barry beck is 62


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10-16-2009, 04:04 PM
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If i had time i would, but Bill Cook has to be in everyones Top 5 if they want to stay true to Ranger history.

His number should really be retired.

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10-16-2009, 04:12 PM
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Just found this online

http://rangergreats.com/2009/10/11/author-notebook.aspx

http://rangergreats.com/ Blog

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10-16-2009, 04:21 PM
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I'm excited to read this book.

I've seen the bottom 50 and the one thing I remember taking issue with is that Nedved was ranked higher than Lundqvist and Jagr. Although Jagr only played for the Rangers for 3 and 1/2 seasons, and Lundqvist is entering his 5th season, I think both players have been more influential than Nedved. Nedved just symbolizes the Dark Ages for me.

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I'm excited to read this book.

I've seen the bottom 50 and the one thing I remember taking issue with is that Nedved was ranked higher than Lundqvist and Jagr. Although Jagr only played for the Rangers for 3 and 1/2 seasons, and Lundqvist is entering his 5th season, I think both players have been more influential than Nedved. Nedved just symbolizes the Dark Ages for me.
Nedved should not be on the list period...

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10-16-2009, 04:32 PM
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Nedved should not be on the list period...
Yeah, I was surprised he even made the list.

But he did play 7 seasons with the Rangers. Unfortunately, the Rangers didn't make the playoffs in any of these seasons except for 1. Nedved is the poster boy for a bad era in Rangers history.

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10-16-2009, 04:34 PM
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My humble, somwhat educated guess.

- Bill Cook
- Andy Bathgate
- Frank Boucher
- Brad Park
- Brian Leetch
- Bryan Hextall
- Ching Johnson
- Jean Ratelle
- Cecil Dillon
- Mike Richter
- Ed Giacomin
- Earl Seibert
- Lynn Patrick
- Rodrigue Gilbert
- Phil Watson
- Bill Gadsby (that I completely forgot in my original list and that might be higher)
- Bun Cook
- Camille Henry
- Neil Colville

Actually, a list that doesn't have Cook at. no. 1 doesn't make much sense.

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10-16-2009, 04:53 PM
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What would be interesting to me would be to put together a top-100 Ranger list and juxtapose that with a top-100 (or 50, whatever) player to wear a Ranger jersey (as in, Gretzky, Jagr, Esposito, Bure...)

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What would be interesting to me would be to put together a top-100 Ranger list and juxtapose that with a top-100 (or 50, whatever) player to wear a Ranger jersey (as in, Gretzky, Jagr, Esposito, Bure...)
Indeed. That's why I had lots of problems coming up with a list, as many more "recent" guys didn't that much time in NY. With the notable exception of Leetch and Richter.

And I don't count Messier's last years for much either.

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10-16-2009, 05:17 PM
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Bill Cook and Frank Boucher

Frank Boucher is without a doubt the greatest Ranger of all time.

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10-16-2009, 06:55 PM
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Messier did lead you guys to a cup

Gump worsley would be high on my list to name another high profile ranger

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10-16-2009, 07:05 PM
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Can we make a Bottom 100 Rangers list? I think that would be much more fun. Who would be #1? Rumun Ndur? John Tripp? Kryzystof Oliwa?

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10-16-2009, 07:13 PM
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Zherdev and Voros better be somewhere on the top 100 list!

Lindros as well.

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My humble, somwhat educated guess.

- Bill Cook
- Andy Bathgate
- Frank Boucher
- Brad Park
- Brian Leetch
- Bryan Hextall
- Ching Johnson
- Jean Ratelle
- Cecil Dillon
- Mike Richter
- Ed Giacomin
- Earl Seibert
- Lynn Patrick
- Rodrigue Gilbert
- Phil Watson
- Bill Gadsby (that I completely forgot in my original list and that might be higher)
- Bun Cook
- Camille Henry
- Neil Colville

Actually, a list that doesn't have Cook at. no. 1 doesn't make much sense.
I agree pretty much with this list.

I would have Ron Greschner on there, without hesitation.

And also Steve Vickers and Walt Tkaczuk.

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one would assume Ulanob, Krapa, Kantplaysky would be high on that list.

I think Jason Muzatti is a clear #1 though. For the first time in his life.

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10-16-2009, 08:10 PM
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one would assume Ulanob, Krapa, Kantplaysky would be high on that list.

I think Jason Muzatti is a clear #1 though. For the first time in his life.
Don't diss Valeri.

And I agree. Muzatti is probably #1.

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10-16-2009, 08:16 PM
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btw in russ's book
Duguay was #49 and barry beck is 62
Barry Beck was a great player on some terrible teams.

Ron Duguay is easily the most overrated Ranger of my lifetime. He was flashy but a horrific defensive player that made him an absolute liability.

He was minus 99 for his career. Look at this stretch:

1983-84 26 Detroit Red Wings NHL 80 33 47 80 -26
1984-85 27 Detroit Red Wings NHL 80 38 51 89 -16
1985-86 28 Detroit Red Wings NHL 67 19 29 48 -30
1985-86 28 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 13 6 7 13 -14

The guy put up 89 points in one season and was minus. He shouldn't be in the top 200 Rangers.

P.S. One of my favorite stats is Bobby Orr being +124 in one season and plus 597 for his career.

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10-16-2009, 10:28 PM
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Yeah, I was surprised he even made the list.

But he did play 7 seasons with the Rangers. Unfortunately, the Rangers didn't make the playoffs in any of these seasons except for 1. Nedved is the poster boy for a bad era in Rangers history.
I wonder where Kovalev / Fleury would fit in.

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Why should his numbers with the wings and pens even be mentioned? Shouldn't we worry about his stats as a Ranger?

And if you're going to list plus minus do you know Leetch's plus minus numbers from 97-01? -36,-7,-16,-18.

Plus minus is a stupid stat.

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If Brian Leetch isn't No. 1 I'm going to start protesting heavily.

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I agree, there's waxing nostalgic, and then there's being realistic. Leetch has to be #1.

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im surprised no one has included messier on their lists so far. i wouldnt put him as number one...but i think he should definitely be a top 20 player in our history. and im all for bill cook as #1....i think its a travesty that his number hasnt been retired yet

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You guys went 54 yrs without a cup Messier is your Moses without the hair

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recently found the hf board so a first-time post

have to agree that leetch is #1. hall of famer, cup winner and career (almost) ranger.

also think bathgate needs to be way up there. a 1st team all star right wing, won the hart trophy when howe and richard were playing and the rangers were a terrible team and my dad was watching from the .50 balcony seats in the old garden.

awkward question: where might rick middleton have ranked?

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i dunno...i heard these guys on the blueshirt banter site, and they were all like...Del Zotto and Gilroy clearly do not look NHL ready, and talking about how Grachev was going to be a bit of a let down, and how he can be lazy at times...

hard to respect an opinion of someone who says stuff like that...i mean, if thats how they judge the play of these players, how do i justify paying money to see where they rank the all time greatest rangers.

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