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10-19-2009, 05:24 PM
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To Chicago
Andy Sutton/Brendan Witt
Dwayne Roloson
David Toews

To NYI
Huet
Barker
I think I would do this.

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10-19-2009, 05:29 PM
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To Chicago
Andy Sutton
Dwayne Roloson
David Toews

To NYI
Huet
Barker
...Hell id do that

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10-19-2009, 05:30 PM
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To Chicago
Andy Sutton/Brendan Witt
Dwayne Roloson
David Toews

To NYI
Huet
Barker
We do this then waive Huet (just make it Andy Sutton).

Done!

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10-19-2009, 05:57 PM
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Why wouldn't you just trade Biron for Huet, in a change of scenery kind of trade... the Islanders have the cap space for it, and the Hawks could definitely use the cap relief in the hunt to space to get their RFA's resigned.

I think it makes perfect sense for each team. The Islanders get a better goaltender, and if Niemi proves himself, Biron can be a capable backup, and a starter if needed if Niemi folds after the trade, while saving about 3 million dollars in cap space.

It doesn't matter that the nyi have cap space.they aren't wasting it on a struggling Huet and his overpaid contract.

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10-19-2009, 05:58 PM
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To Chicago
Andy Sutton
Dwayne Roloson
David Toews

To NYI
Huet
Barker
Love it.

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10-19-2009, 06:03 PM
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were not taking huet due to an internal salary cap..

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10-19-2009, 06:03 PM
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We do this then waive Huet (just make it Andy Sutton).

Done!
Huet has 3 yrs/$16m left on his deal(including this yr).

Sutton is in the last yr of his deal($3m).

The isles aren't one of those teams that can afford to just waive expensive contracts and bury players in the AHL.

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10-19-2009, 06:30 PM
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were not taking huet due to an internal salary cap..
Huet - 5.6m
Barker - 3.0m

Witt - 3.0m
Roloson - 2.5m

I don't think 3mil is a big deal considering Sutton is coming off the books this year.

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10-19-2009, 06:51 PM
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Huet - 5.6m
Barker - 3.0m

Witt - 3.0m
Roloson - 2.5m

I don't think 3mil is a big deal considering Sutton is coming off the books this year.
Huet is struggling,while making $5.6m.He's got 3 yrs left on his deal.

The isles lost out on Tanguay because they wanted him to sign the same type of cheap,team friendly contract that Biron signed($1.4m).You really think the isles are taking a a struggling Huet,due over $16m?


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Huet is struggling,while making $5.6m.He's got 3 yrs left on his deal.

The isles lost out on Tanguay because they wanted him to sign the same type of cheap,team friendly contract that Biron signed($1.4m).You really think the isles are taking a a struggling Huet,due over $16m?

No, but I would if it meant we get Barker and dump Witt and Roloson.

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10-19-2009, 09:10 PM
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To Chicago
Andy Sutton/Brendan Witt
Dwayne Roloson
David Toews

To NYI
Huet
Barker
Where do I sign?

I'd take on Huet's contract for Barker! We'll just buy-out Huet.

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10-19-2009, 09:15 PM
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Huet is struggling,while making $5.6m.He's got 3 yrs left on his deal.

The isles lost out on Tanguay because they wanted him to sign the same type of cheap,team friendly contract that Biron signed($1.4m).You really think the isles are taking a a struggling Huet,due over $16m?

To me...id do it based on getting Cam Barker nothing else.

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10-19-2009, 09:32 PM
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To me...id do it based on getting Cam Barker nothing else.
Same. I'd take Barker over everyone defenseman on our team not named Streit.

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10-19-2009, 09:40 PM
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To me...id do it based on getting Cam Barker nothing else.



Sutton's on the last yr of his deal.The isles are down to 2 yrs on Witt's deal.

Getting Barker would be nice but there's no way the isles would take Huet (who's playing like crap) and his 3 yr/$16m contract.

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10-19-2009, 09:42 PM
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To Chicago
Andy Sutton/Brendan Witt
Dwayne Roloson
David Toews

To NYI
Huet
Barker


NO!

Roloson will be 40 and even though we get to dump Huet I would not do that!

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10-19-2009, 09:43 PM
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Sutton's on the last yr of his deal.The isles are down to 2 yrs on Witt's deal.

Getting Barker would be nice but there's no way the isles would take Huet (who's playing like crap) and his 3 yr/$16m contract.
Yes, but we are dumping Witt who has played like crap since last year and Roloson who has been pretty bad so far (yes i know the season just started) I think that would soften the blow of taking on Huet's salary.

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NO!

Roloson will be 40 and even though we get to dump Huet I would not do that!
Mr. "I'd rather have Darren Pang come out of retirement than have Huet"!


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10-19-2009, 10:02 PM
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Yes, but we are dumping Witt who has played like crap since last year and Roloson who has been pretty bad so far (yes i know the season just started) I think that would soften the blow of taking on Huet's salary.
If DiPi comes back,the nyi will have over $10m a yr tied up in 2 goalies.Way too much imo.

Witt struggled last yr in Gordon system.Yet Botta indicated Snow was holding out for more then a 2nd+4th.Botta's info implied some team would have taken a chance on Witt with 2 yrs/$6m left on his deal.By the time this yr's trade deadline comes around,we'll be down to just 1 yr left on Witt's deal,making him hopefully more attractive trade bait.Heck I'd be happy with a 2nd for him.

I think Biron will be the goalie Snow looks to move.He's played better then Rol and is on a shorter,cheaper contract.

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10-19-2009, 10:06 PM
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If DiPi comes back,the nyi will have over $10m a yr tied up in 2 goalies.Way too much imo.

Witt struggled last yr in Gordon system.Yet Botta indicated Snow was holding out for more then a 2nd+4th.Botta's info implied some team would have taken a chance on Witt with 2 yrs/$6m left on his deal.By the time this yr's trade deadline comes around,we'll be down to just 1 yr left on Witt's deal,making him hopefully more attractive trade bait.Heck I'd be happy with a 2nd for him.

I think Biron will be the goalie Snow looks to move.He's played better then Rol and is on a shorter,cheaper contract.
I'd be happy with anything for Witt at this point.

And I agree, much better chance we see Biron moved than Roloson

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Mr. "I'd rather have Darren Pang come out of retirement than have Huet"!

Well Panger wouldn't come with Roloson's cap hit and extra year which is alway's a risk that vet retires and screws team's cap

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10-19-2009, 10:41 PM
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Rollie is the better goalie and the extra year should make him cheaper to acquire.

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Did he really? I really didn't see much of him playing with EDM and I wanted to find out if has always been this bad in shootouts so thank you for answering that for me, that does worry me.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. He's looked bad going down laterally. Marc Savard put a nice, but not great move on him in the shootout, and he just looked like a jellyfish on the ice. It seems like almost any shooter that can deke him in close and make him move laterally while going down can score on him at this point. Maybe he's hurt and not saying something, but he hasn't looked good at all. Standing up and facing shots he looks alright, and moves just fine, but going down and moving laterally is a whole different ballgame with Rollie at this point.

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to write off DP at this point is wishful thinking for competitors. DP is a driven individual and he is out to prove that 2 years of injuries do not make a career He was just starting to scratch the surface on his potential after playing as a 18-19-20 years old on some piss poor NY Isles teams.

DP swallowed his ego rode the AHL buses, worked him self back on the Isles and carried mediocre teams to the playoffs multiple of times while learning on the job. For example, two NHL Vets in Biron and Roloson are clearly struggling on a Defense that DP reached All Star Levels with .

DP, on all all reports is working himself too death and looked good in the meantime backstopping shots and moving from post to post. Just hope some folks are patient with him when he gets back becuase the guy missed 2 years of competitive hockey. Hope he is back for thanksgiving and by years end is hitting his stride so 2010-2011 the ISles get their #1 tender back better than ever.

time will tell
I'm not going to sit here and bash DiPietro, but let's be real, that's A LOT to be banking your hopes on.

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Huet for Roloson, straight up. I love it.
I'll tell you right now, Biron is the better choice of the the two Islander goaltenders at this point, especially if you're looking for someone who can be a viable starter in case Niemi falters.

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We dont...last thing we need are more bad contracts.

Besides how would getting huet help us?

Makes no sense on our part...

Defense is something we sorely need ...anyone decent there & picks and Birons yours.
Huet would be the best, most consistent, and most reliable goaltender on the Island if acquired. Sure, he's struggling right now, but so are Biron and Roloson, and if you're going to put all of your eggs in one basket with DiPietro, you should just make sure the chambers are filled, the safety's off, and put the gun to your head. Not a wise decision at this point. Maybe later on in the season when he proves that he's at least showing legit signs of getting back to form soon, you can bank it all on him.

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It doesn't matter that the nyi have cap space.they aren't wasting it on a struggling Huet and his overpaid contract.
Overpaid? He'd be the best and most reliable option for the Isles in net. He may be struggling, but he's been on a team that's been past the 1st round of the playoffs, he's not nearly as hurt as DiPietro, and he's not dead-to-rights when asked to move laterally while going down like Roloson is.

Hey, argue with me all you want, but right now, on a reliability scale of 1-10, none of the current Islanders goaltenders register anything more than a 4.

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Rollie is the better goalie and the extra year should make him cheaper to acquire.
Watch more of Roloson before you say that... If you did, you'd much rather have Biron at this point.

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Would prefer a D rather than Sweatt.
But he looked so good between Blud and Teers

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I'm sorry if this offends Isles fans or something but this is a terrible trade offer.

First of all, why Biron? The guy is inconsistent and hasn't proven he can play well in the playoffs or even at a really high level.

Second of all, we're not trading away one of the best college prospects in hockey. I've seen Sweatt play and that guy is talented. I'm really looking forward to seeing him play with the Indian Head.

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I'm sorry if this offends Isles fans or something but this is a terrible trade offer.

First of all, why Biron? The guy is inconsistent and hasn't proven he can play well in the playoffs or even at a really high level.

Second of all, we're not trading away one of the best college prospects in hockey. I've seen Sweatt play and that guy is talented. I'm really looking forward to seeing him play with the Indian Head.
The logic would be that both Biron and Huet could use a change of scenery.

I think a straight up trade of the two is a basis of a good trade.

Feel free to tweak it.

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