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11-12-2009, 06:26 PM
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F Haviland Routh

1893 AHAC Leading Scorer
1893 Stanley Cup Champion
1893 Retro Hart
1894 Stanley Cup Champion
1895 AHAC Leading Scorer
1895 Retro Hart

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Sniper. Speedster. Shooter. These three words best describe the city of Montreal's first great goal-getter, Haviland Routh. The thickly-muscled, mustachioed Amateur Hockey Association of Canada (AHAC) winger was the blazing force behind Cup victories in 1893 and 1894. He was the AHAC's leading scorer in 1893 (12 goals in seven games) and again in 1895 (19 goals in eight games).

Although Routh was capable of skating or stickhandling his way through an enemy line, he was apparently one of the least conscientious defensive players of his time

In 24 contests, Routh scored 39 times.

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He was known in that era as being one of the toughest players on the ice, and in fact many writers took to calling him a "hooligan" or "thug" for what was often perceived as dirty play by fans and opposing players.-HHOF
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Ken Randall was one of the original tough guys. Coined a "Hooligan" and a "Thug", Ken was not afraid of throwing his weight around with opponents or the NHL brass.

Among the more rugged and aggressive players who liked to combine a fair amount of jousting with their play with resultant penalties, Ken Randall stands forth as a good example.

He was an even more chunky player than Pitre and it was remarkable the way he could hustle as a forward.

A good slam bang player who gave his best at hockey and as a fighter, Ken Randall was on four championship teams and two Cup winners.-SIHR
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Among the most rough and uncut characters to grace the page of hockey history was Ken Randall.

Randall was a chunky barrell-chester pug, prone to weight fluctuation. But for a big man, he could hustle. He handled the puck well and had a good shot.

Randall was a colorful slam-bang hockeyist, the kind of bulldog every coach wants in the dressing room. Although he was not enrishned in the Hockey Hall of Fame, he was nonetheless one of the top hockey players in the new NHL.-Ultimate Hockey
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Randall and Cameron were others who participated in roughing things up during the early stages of the game-Globe and Mail
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"Ken" Randall played the beat game he has ever shown on local ice and his rushes were of sensational variety.-Globe and Mail
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Mummery and Randall gave a grand display, and their blocking and rushing was well nigh perfect. The latter had settle down to buisness in earnest, and if anybody stood out last night it was Randall. He completely bewildered the visitors by his sensational rushing and seemed to be able to outguess the defence with ridiculous ease.-Globe and Mail
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Nighbor and Darragh had chances but were stopped up by Mummery and Randall-Globe and mail
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Lindsay had one of his best nights in goal, and Randall at point was probably one of the most effective men on the team- Globe and Mail
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Randall and Noble again bore the brunt of the work for the blueshirts. The former notched three goals after clever end-to-end dashes.-Globe and Mail
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Prodgers, Matte, and Randall played a defence game, and the locals (Ottawa) could not get through-Globe and Mail
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Two players stood out for the wearers of green and white, these being Randall and Noble. The former checked well and was very effective on the attack. His rushes generally led to a shot on goal.-Gloe and Mail
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Ottawa did their checking on their own side of centre ice, and against the five-man defence only Randall could make any headway.-Globe and mail
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The Senators frequently got by the local defence, but came to grief when they encountered the Matte-Randall defense-Globe and Mail
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"Ken" Randall got into more jams than any other player on the ice, and finally wound up his seasons activities by staging a battle with his old friend "Cy" Denney-Globe and Mail
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Randall stepped into the limelight on two occasions in the final period, first by the goal that proved the winner and secondly by stepping into Joe Matte when that person tried to beat the defense single-handed.-Globe and Mail
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Randall made good with a vengance at the rover position. He used his sturdy body to good effect in stopping McKay, Adams, and Skinner, and none of the visitors wasted any time in trying to intimidate him. As a puck carrier, Randall was as good as any other player on the ice and in the first thirty minutes he was the only local player who could make any headway. - Globe and Mail
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In the first period, Randall and Adams mixed it...-Globe and Mail
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Randall was effectrive travelling both ways, and hard hard luck in his shooting..-Globe and Mail
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On the defense, he and "Red" Stuart held the Ottawa Attackers at bay with unexpected skill, and on the attack, Randall bored right in on the net in telling fashion. Severeal times he beat the Gerard-Boucher-Clancy second line [To explain, another quote: "Eddie Gerard and George Boucher had a bad night on defense, and when "King" Clancy was inserted the second line was still shaky"] with ridiculous ease. -Globe and Mail
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Randall played the entire sixty minutes, and his rushing was one of the bright features. -Globe and Mail
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With Langlois and Randall giving him air-tight protection, the local sharpshooters drilled the puck from all angles at all distances..-Globe and Mail
With our 20th selection, the Cairo Desert Dogs proudly select, the "Pepper Kid" himself..



KEN RANDALL!

Awards and Achievements
2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1918, 1922)

Top 10's
NHL Stats
Goals- 10th(1919)
Assists- 3rd(1919), 3rd(1924), 9th(1925)
Points- 8th(1919)
*Randall played in the multi-league era, but had many other finishes in the 11-20 range within the NHL.

Biography
Randall would be successful before making his NHL debut, earning second team all-star honors in the OPHL and EOPHL First All-Star team honors. He would make brief stops in Port Hope, Montreal, Saskatoon, and Torontom, before settling with the Sydney Millionares of the Maritimies Professional Hockey league for three years. He would be back in Toronto by 1915, playing forthe NHA's blueshirts, where he would truly begin to carve his placei n hockey history.

He would leave Toronto soon after, joining the Montreal Wanderers (a strangley fitting team for him to join), where he would playu ntil the NHL was born in 1917, when he joined the Arenas. He would spend a total of 7 years with the Arena and St.Pats in Toronto, winning two cups and being a fearsome, tough force. His versatility would be appreciated, as for his entire career, Randall played right wing and defense in the same year; even in the same game.

In December of 1923, he would be traded to the Hamilton Tigers for two years before being transferred to the New York Americans and retiring after a little over one season, leaving a legacy was one of the toughest and most versatile of his era with a good scoring touch.

He would die in 1947 of heart-attack, in Toronto at the age of 58.


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That boy has everything. He beat us single-handed last Saturday night to put us out of the playoffs, and don't think we didn't try to handle him with bodychecks. He's as elusive as an eel, and he makes no mistakes when opposition crops up.- Herb Mitchell, boss of Hershey club in AHL.
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He was a fine playmaker and face off man who amassed nearly 200 career assists.-LOH
With our 23rd selection, the Cairo Desert Dogs proudly select...



BILLY TAYLOR Sr.!

Awards and Achievements
1 x Stanley Cup Champion (1942)
1 x NHL Assists leader (1947)

Top 20's
Goals- 7th(1946)
Assists- 3rd(1941), 9th (1942), 4th(1943), 16th (1946), 1st(1947)
Points- 14th (1941), 12th(1942), 5th(1943), 10th (1946), 3rd(1947)

Top 10 playoffs
Playoff Assists- 9th(1941), 2nd(1942), 3rd(1942)
Playoff Points- 4th (1942), 8th(1942)

Biography
Billy "the Kid" Taylor would have a successful junior career with the Toronto British Consols and the Oshawa Generals, leading all scorers in a memorial cup championship. Taylor would split his first pro-season between the Toronto Maple Leafs and the AHL's Pittsburgh Hortnets, both of which he'd find some success with. He would then make the jump and spend three years with the big club, proving to be a valuable playmaker, and he would be an important parti n the Leafs cup run in 1942.

He would two years in millitary service before returning to become a bit more of a goalscorer in his first season back. He owuld be traded to Detroit in 1946, and then lead the league in assists in 1947. He wouldn't last longeri n Detroit however, and spend time with the Bruins and Rangers before being suspened for gambling violations, ending his career.


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Holy Jeez. I DO NOT want to mess with Ken Randall.

That guy will fight like he's got nothing to lose.

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G Billy Nicholson

1902 Stanley Cup Champion

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William Nicholson was one of the fattest men ever to play hockey at the semi-professional or professional level. Originally the goalie for the Montreal AAA "Little Men of Iron" -- circa 1901 -- he has been called the first true "butterfly" goalie. He was flopping to the ice to make saves at least 10 years before Clint Benedict, the goalie who has been generally credited with pioneering the style.


Throughout most of his career Nicholson was a solid, dependable goalkeeper. He played on some poor teams, such as the 1907-08 Shamrocks and 1912-13 Toronto Tecumsehs. He rounded out his career with the Toronto Arenas in 1916-17.

The sight of Nicholson in full uniform, wearing his trademark toque and weighing anywhere from 250 to 275 pounds, must have been delicious. Apparently, whenever he crashed down onto the ice to make a save, everyone would hold their breath in fear that the ice would crack. He was surprisingly athletic, though, despite the constraints of his plus-sized frame. His career, while not of Hockey Hall of Fame caliber, compares favorably to the goaltending standard of his era.

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Holy Jeez. I DO NOT want to mess with Ken Randall.

That guy will fight like he's got nothing to lose.
You know it

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Coaches love a player who practices as hard as he plays. He was an enthusiastic and gifted skater who fits the previous description.
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He was a tremendous player during his lengthy and successful career.-LOH
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At the time, he became the 13th player to score 200 career goals and won the scoring championship with a then-record 82 points.-LOH

With our 24th selection, the Cairo Desert Dogs proudly select..


HERB CAIN!

Awards and Achievements
2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1935, 1941)
1 x NHL Points Leader (1944)
1 x Second Team All-Star (1944)

Top 20's
Goals- 8th(1935), 16th(1939), 4th(1940), 2nd(1944), 2nd(1945), 17th(1946)
Assists- 18th(1937), 14th(1938), 3rd(1944)
Points- 20th(1937), 13th(1940), 1st(1944), 13th(1945)

Playoff Top 10s
Playoff Goals- 5th(1941), 6th(1943), 3rd(1945)
Playoff Assists- 5th(1940)
Playoff Points- 10th (1940), 10th(1941), 10th(1943), 5th(1945)

Biography
Herb Cain would first blossom in the NHL when he went to the Montreal Maroons in 1933. He would be the shining jewel of the explosive "green line", which would lead the maroons to a stanley cup in 1935.

He would be traded to Boston in 1939, where he would emerge as one of hockey's top players, with his great offensive skills. He would help the Bruins win a cup in 1941In 1944, he would explode, setting an NHL record for points.

His departure from the Bruins would be a bitter one however, as Bruins boss Ross was determined to bury the two-years removed second team all-star in the minors, as Cain was holding out for more money for one more year in Boston, which was uncommon at the time.. Some believe this shame of being sent to the minors had a part in him not being in the hall of fame. He would retire after four years in the AHL,.

He would be diagnosided with Hodgkins Disease in 1955. There was little hope for survival, so he agreed to be a guinea pig with a experimental serum to help cure it. Remarkably, it would be successful, and Cain's health took a turn for the better. He would get a job with a sheet metal company and live another thirty years.

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He was like a coon hound when killing penalties. He chased the puck until he dropped and, if he gained possession, ragged it like nobody's business.” – Hockey-Notes.com
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“He and _______ again advanced in much the same manner to give John Ross something to worry about.... _______ played on a line with _______ and him and this treesome caried the team to victory.” – Habseyeontheprize.com
With our 18th round selection, the Bettman’s are happy to select a defensive specialist and penalty-killer extraordinaire. While he was primarily a defensive player, he managed to come up big in the play-offs. Please welcome “Perk”....



Percy Galbraith!!!

Awards and Acheivements:
Stanley Cup Champion (1929)
3 x Stanley Cup Finalist (1927, 1929, 1930)

CHL 1st Team All-Star (1926)

Ultimate Hockey awarded him:
“Best Defensive Forward” of 1920-29
“Best Penalty Killer” of 1920-29
“Best Shadow” of 1920-29

Scoring:
Assists – 8th(1927)

Play-off Points – 1st(1927), 3rd(1930)
Play-off Goals – 3rd(1927), 5th(1928)
Play-off Assists – 1st(1927), 2nd(1930)

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“He was a true gentleman, a honey of a skater, a natural goal scorer, and a diligent checker.” – Hockey-Notes.com
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“He is said to have had a profound influence on one of the greatest hockey minds of the twentieth century, Lester Patrick. As a youngster, Patrick would go and watch the Montreal AAA players practice. On one occasion, he mustered up the balls to ask the great man if he could carry his sticks and equipment bag.” – Hockey-Notes.com
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“it was he who taught me to carry myself with a certain air and act with class.” – Lester Patrick
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captaining the Canadian national lacrosse team in the 1908 Summer.” – Hockey-Notes.com
With our 25th selection, we are happy to select an amazing two-way player to start our minor league team. Please welcome Lester Patrick’s boyhood idol.....



Clare McKerrow!!!

Awards and Achevements:
2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1902, 1903)
Art Ross Trophy (1897)
Rocket Richard Trophy (1897)

Ultimate Hockey awarded him:
2 x Retro Selke Trophy (1898, 1899)
“Most Underrated Player” of 1887-1899

Scoring:
Points - 2nd(1896), 1st(1897), 2nd(1898), 2nd(1899)
Goals - 2nd(1896), 1st(1897), 2nd(1898), 2nd(1899)

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“During his career, he had often been chided for playing too defensively.” – Legends of Hockey
With our 11th round selection, the Bettmans are thrilled to select the perfect center for our two-way unit. While he's an excellent two-way player, he was also one of the most gifted playmakers of his time. He will fit in perfectly with "Nibs". Please welcome Arthur.....



Art Chapman!!!

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“If you can stop them from scoring, you'll get a goal in time.” – Art Chapman
Awards and Achievements:
Allan Cup (1926)
Second Team All-Star (1937)

Scoring:
Points – 6th(1935), 4th(1936), 17th(1937)
Assists – 1st(1935), 1st(1936), 5th(1937), 2nd(1938), 18th(1939)

Play-off Assists – 5th(1936)

Led CAHL in assists in 1929

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“The Chicago Blackhawks’ success in their early National Hockey League years can be credited in large part to him.” – Who’s Who in Hockey
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“He was a fiery little right wing who played his entire career of 17 years with the Chicago Blackhawks.... The Hawks were one of the worst teams in the NHL at that stage, but thanks to some timely scoring by him, they soon became a Stanley Cup contender.... quietly being one of the most feared units in hockey. The line was driven by the diminutive man. Just 5'5" and 155lbs, the spunky right winger mixed it up with the roughest players in the league, as his penalty records attest. His timely scoring and abrasive approach made him very popular with the Chicago fans and became the standard of comparison for all right wing candidates for the team....the mighty mite carried on at right wing and continued his unselfish play
With our 20th round selection, we are happy to select a spark-plug who can get it done offensively and defensively. He has always been willing to fill any role, and he will be perfect in a fourth line role. Please welcome Harold....



Mush March!!!

Awards and Acheivements:
2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1934, 1938)
Stanley Cup Finalist (1931, 1934, 1938, 1944)
Retro Selke Trophy (1939)
All Star Game (1937)

Scoring:
Points – 11th(1936)
Goals – 8th(1936)
Assists – 7th(1936), 9th(1942), 13th(1943)

Play-off Points – 9th(1934), 7th(1936), 5th(1938), 10th(1941)
Play-off Goals – 6th(1931), 8th(1934), 10th(1936)
Play-off Assists – 7th(1934), 5th(1936), 2nd(1938), 9th(1941)

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The Cairo Desert Dogs are happy to select a defenseman who Legends of Hockey described as “an intimidating presence”, “a rugged defender”, and “a solid force”.....



Gord Fraser!!

Awards and Achievements:
Stanley Cup Champion (1925)
2 x Stanley Cup Finalist (1925, 1926)

PCHA Second All-Star (1923)
PCHA First All-Star (1924)
WCHL Second All-Star (1925)

Top-10s:
PCHA Scoring
Points for Defensemen –4th(1922), 2nd(1924)
Goals for Defensemen – 3rd(1922), 2nd(1924)

WCHL Scoring
Points for Defensemen – 5th(1925)
Goals for Defensemen – 5th(1925)

NHL Scoring
Points for Defensemen – 20th(1928), 14th(1930)
Goals for Defensemen – 18th(1928), 12th(1930)
Assists for Defensemen – 17th(1928), 19th(1930)

Play-off Scoring
Play-off Points – 6th(1925)
Play-off Goals – 5th(1925), 8th(1927)
Play-off Points for Defensemen – 1st(1925),
Play-off Goals for Defensemen – 1st(1925),

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After playing 2 years in Calgary of the Big 4 League, Gord Fraser joined the Seattle Metropolitans of the Pacific Coast Hockey Association. He played 3 solid seasons in Seattle, and earned 1st and 2nd all-star selections before being traded to the Victoria Cougars. In his first season in Victoria, Fraser was a 2nd all-star, but more importantly, he led defensemen in play-off scoring and helped lead the Cougars to a Stanley Cup. After one more season in the Western Hockey League, Fraser joined the Chicago Blackhawks. In his first NHL season, he led all defensemen in goals and points, yet still remained a solid defensive and physical presence. After this season, his offense dried up, but he remained a steady defender. He bounced around until 1931 before dropping down to the IHL.


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LF, I already showed you last draft that Fraser was not a defenseman in the 1927 season.

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“Flashy or not, he was undeniably a good player. The short, chubby (190 lbs on a 5'8" frame) was a tough competitor with a flair for making the big play. He was a good puck carrier, and could move quickly with his short, choppy strides. He could also hand out some stiff bodychecks and was one of the reasons the Maroons had an on-ice reputation as the "Marauding Maroons".” – The Montreal Maroons
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“Despite the new "anti-defense" rule, they managed to get away with playing much of the rest of the game in a defensive cocoon. the Canadiens kept coming, but he and _______ hung tough on defense... Morenz had been given some rough treatment all night, especially by him, who knocked him down whenever possible, and the Canadiens' star was showing signs of exhaustion.” – The Montreal Maroons
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He was one of hockey's great leaders.... He captained the Toronto Granites.... He was the captain of the Olympic team as well.... Despite being one of the younger players on the first year Maroons team, he was named captain again.” – Joe Pelletier
With our 18th round selection, we are pleased to select a stabalizing influence for our 3rd defence pairing. He may not be flashy, but he’s steady, he’s tough, and he gets the job done. One of the best leaders in the history of the game...



Dunc Munro!!!

Awards and Acheivements:
2 x Allan Cup Champion (1922, 1923)
Olympic Gold Medal (1924)
Stanley Cup Champion (1926)
2 x Stanley Cup Finalist (1926, 1928)

Scoring:
Assists – 10th(1926)

Points among Defensemen – 7th(1925), 7th(1926), 10th(1927)
Goals among Defensemen – 5th(1925), 8th(1930)
Assists among Defensemen – 1st(1926), 7th(1927)

Play-off Points among Defensemen – 1st(1928), 3rd(1930)
Play-off Goals among Defensemen – 1st(1928)
Play-off Assists among Defensemen – 1st(1928)

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"He was a good one," (undrafted player) said of this player. "One of the real stars of the league. He was known at that time as one of the defensemen who could shoot a heavy puck and was one of the hardest shots in the league. He was a hard-nosed player, but a real nice fellow."-Ultimate Hockey
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He was a member of two Detroit teams that won the stanley cup in successive years and was a driving force in those victories. - Globe and Mail
A star not afraid to lead..

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A determined, tough player, who can fight and can recover well after a loss..

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Ebbie Goodfellow's aggressive tactics were wasted, as the Bruins regained their winning stride after two setbacks. Goodfellow engaged in two fist-fights during the game and divided the honors with the Boston fisticuffers. Goodfellow's first-period bout with Jack Portland, 215-pound defenceman, was short and sweet, and the Red Wing was sent sprawling by a right to the jaw. In the next frame, however, Goodfellow had all the better of the battle with Ray Getliffe, and, after he connected about five times on that Bruin's jaw, both drew major penalties.-Globe and Mail
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At the Toronto defence he collided with Kampman. The two went down in a heap, locked arms, tossed punches, and then got up on their skates to continue the brawl.-Globe and Mail
Clearly, a valuable player that helped hold his teams together.

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Back in December of January, the idea that the Detroit defence could have stumbled thro9ugh a game, much less three tough playoff games in a row, without the assistanmce of Goodfellow was unthinkable. Less than a year ago, Goodfwellow was voted the most valuaple player in the league. Although his physical exploits have been less strenuous this year, the belief persisted that he was holding his team together, giving it leadership and stability that only the Goodfellows, Clappers, and the Shores could supply.


With our 4th selection, the Cairo Desert Dogs proudly select, a really swell guy..


EBBIE GOODFELLOW!

Awards and Achievements
Hockey Hall of Famer
3 x Stanley Cups (2 as captain)
2 x First All-Star Team Defense (1937, 1940)
1 x Second All-Star Team Defense (1936)
1 x Hart Memorial Trophy (1940)
* also finished 3rd (1937) and 4th (1931) in Hart voting

Top 10's
Goals- 4th (1931)
Assists-3rd (1931), 9th (1935)
Points- 2nd (1931)

Defenceman Goals- 3rd (1936), 1st (1937), 2nd (1939), 1st (1940), 5th (1941),
Defenceman Assists- 1st (1936), 2nd (1937), 9th (1939), 2nd (1940), 1st (1941),
Defenceman Points-1st (1936), 2nd (1937), 6th (1939), 1st (1940), 3rd (1941)

Playoff Goals- 2nd (1934), 8th (1937)
Playoff Assists- 4th (1934)
Playoff Points- 3rd (1934), 10th (1937)

Playoff Defenceman Goals- 6th (1936), 2nd (1937)
Playoff Defenceman Assists- 2nd (1937), 2nd (1940), 9th (1941)
Playoff Defenceman Points- 9th (1936), 1st (1937), 5th (1940)

Biography
Ebbie Goodfellow began his career in Ottawa with the Ottawa Montagnards of the OCHL where, in 1927-28, he was an All-Star centre and leading scorer in the playoffs as the Montagnards won the City Championship. He was spotted by the Detroit organization, and would start his great NHL career in 1929-1930 with the Detroit Cougars, scoring 17 goals.

He began his career as a centre, where he would have success, but he was moved to defence in the 1934-1935 season. It would pay off. He would become one of the league's best defenceman, making the second all-star team in 1936, twice make the first all-star team (1937 and 1940), and was awarded the Hart Trophy in 1940. He spent his entire career in the Detroit organization, who he would win 3 cups with. He retired in 1943, and was inducted to the hockey hall of fame in 1963.


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Defenceman Points-1st (1936), 1st (1937), 5th (1939), 1st (1940), 2nd (1941)
that's 1st, 2nd, 6th, 1st, 3rd.

In 1937, he was behind Babe Siebert.

in 1939, Hollett, Clapper, Heller, Pratt, and Shore topped him. I am assuming you missed Clapper.

In 1941, Clapper and Hollett topped him. Again, I'm assuming you missed Clapper.

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that's 1st, 2nd, 6th, 1st, 3rd.

In 1937, he was behind Babe Siebert.

in 1939, Hollett, Clapper, Heller, Pratt, and Shore topped him. I am assuming you missed Clapper.

In 1941, Clapper and Hollett topped him. Again, I'm assuming you missed Clapper.

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Thanks.

I know the limitations, and have been working to look at multi-positioners when compiling defencemen numbers lately (some will slip by). I don't really have any better sources available to me (unless hockeydb does something convenient in this regard I am not aware of..)

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“He then spent three years as a solid offensive player in the NHA with the Shamrocks and Blueshirts of Toronto as well as the Ottawa Senators.” – Legends of Hockey
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“He was just a good, solid pro who could be counted on to give you top-line minutes and production.” – pensionplanpuppets.com
With our 21st round selection, the Hamilton Bettmans are pleased to select a very versatile spare. He can play any forward position, and he provides great speed, as well as good all-around offensive abilities. He’s much more than Cy’s little brother....



Corb Denneny!!!

Awards and Acheivements:

2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1918, 1922)
3 x Stanley Cup Finalist (1918, 1922, 1923)

PCHA Second Team All-Star (1923)
WHL First Team All-Star (1926)

Retired as the NHL’s leading all time leading goalscorer.

Scoring:

NHA
Points – 6th(1916), 9th(1917)
Goals – 3rd(1916), 7th(1917)
Assists – 9th(1916)

NHL
Points – 5th(1918), 13th(1919), 4th(1920), 9th(1921), 6th(1922)
Goals – 5th(1918), 10th(1919), 4th(1920), 5th(1921), 6th(1922)
Assists – 4th(1918), 13th(1919), 3rd(1920), 12th(1921), 9th(1922)

WCHL
Goals – 10th(1925)

WHL
Points – 3rd(1926)
Goals – 6th(1926)
Assists – 1st(1926)

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“He was a stellar goalkeeper, putting together solid efforts from 1887 through the 1894 season. The short time he did spend playing for the AAA was well spent indeed. He was, simply put, a gem.

In the 1889 final match, the AAA bashed the Montreal Victorias 6-1, thanks in large part to his work between the pipes. According to records, he singlehandedly kept the AAA in the game long enough to ensure the victory.” – Hockey-Notes.com
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With our 23rd round selection, we are pleased to select a proven winner as our back-up goaltender. Comprehensive statistics may be lacking, but he does know how to rack up the most important stat: Wins. Please welcome the first goalie to hoist the Stanley Cup....



Tom Paton!!!

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Stanley Cup Champion (1893)
6 x AHAC Champion (1888, 1889, 1890, 1891, 1892, 1893)

5 x Best G.A.A (1888, 1889, 1890, 1891, 1893)
4 x Most Wins (1888, 1889, 1890, 1891)

Ultimate Hockey awarded him:
“Best Goalie” of 1887-1899
“Best Glove Hand” of 1887-1899
Retro Hart Trophy (1889)
3 x Retro Vezina Trophy (1890, 1891, 1893)

First known hockey award – given to Tom Paton in 1885


Tom Paton’s Championship medal from 1888


First ever Stanley Cup Championship ring – worn by Tom Paton


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“Although solid defensively and strong as a bull, it was his "old-time runs" that drew the most applause. He was a marvelous skater, a smooth stickhandler and among the best in the league at scoring goals, or, as they used to say, "doing the needful". He was the first true "franchise player" (before the word 'franchise' could be applied to a hockey club), and consequently the first star player to be consistently double- and triple-teamed by enemy checkers.” – Ultimate Hockey
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With our 24th round selection, the Bettmans are happy to select one of the original offensive defensemen. While he was solid on defence, his offensive skills made him famous. Please welcome.....



Jack Campbell!!!

Awards and Acheivements:

League Champion (1887, 1888)
Art Ross Trophy (1888)
Rocket Richard Trophy (1888)

Ultimate Hockey awarded him:
2 x Retro Hart Memorial Trophy (1887, 1888)
Retro Norris Memorial Trophy (1888)
“Best Passer” of 1890-1899

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Points – 4th(1887), 1st(1888)
Goals – 4th(1887), 1st(19888)

Points among Defensemen – 1st(1887), 1st(1888)
Goals among Defensemen – 1st(1887), 1st(1888)

While statistics aren’t available, it is very likely that Campbell was among the leaders for defensemen scoring in many of the seasons between 1884 to 1891.

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Statistics are available. See Total Hockey 2. There is a section that mimics The Trail Of the Stanley Cup, Vol. 1 in format and language, in an attempt to extend the scope of the book back 6 more years.

In 1884-1886, there wasn't really a league, just games that took place at the yearly carnival in Montreal. The AHAC came into being for the 1887 season. There were still carnival games but they were not part of the league.

Campbell was listed as 3rd in scoring in 1887 with the Victorias, who played 6 games. The Crystals played 5 and McGill, Montreal AAA, and Ottawa played 1 each. All 3 of the top-leading scorers were Victorias. the Crystals were somewhat of a rag-tag bunch, with only one player playing all five of their games. I can't really come to a conclusion about this season because it wasn't really a season. It was a challenge series of games that led to the disparate GP totals.

In 1888, Campbell was 2nd in the league in scoring. This time there were 4 teams who each played 6 games. Campbell's Crystals were 5-1. Campbell is actually listed in 2nd with 8 goals in 7 games, but is behind Arnton, who apparently had 4 goals. I added up all Vics players and they add up to 29 goals, yet the game results and standings indicate the team scored 24. So I'm not sure what's up. but in any case Campbell had to be the top-scoring blueliner around. (The Vics really beat up on the poor McGill team, allowing players like Campbell to pad their stats, but other teams had that benefit too)

In 1889, Campbell was on the wrong end of the challenge system, which they had switched back to. He got into one official game, and did not score.

In 1890, they again used the challenge system. Campbell played 3 games and scored once. The Vics scored only 4 goals in these games. Allan Cameron appears to have been the top offensive blueliner with 2 goals in 6 games.

In 1891 and 1892, Campbell is not listed as having played at all. I think his career was over, as he does not show up in The Trail, either.

Total career stats: 17 GP, 12 G.

Allan Cameron, by my count, played 43 games and scored 3 goals, yet was apparently the better all-around player (and yeah, we are relying entirely on Ultimate Hockey for this info) and was of course the leader of whatever semblance of a dynasty it was possible to put together back then, with 5 straight AHAC championships followed by an AHA Championship which automatically meant the inagural Stanley Cup, then a season in which there was a 4-way tie for first (each 5-3, with the other team 0-8) which they capped off with two one-game victories in the first cup decided by a playoff.

I don't even know who I would call their contemporary for comparison. Mike Grant played his first season just as Cameron played his last. It's just so hard to get a read on these guys and we really are relying on a single source.

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In 1888, Campbell was 2nd in the league in scoring.
I have him with 8 goals - tied for the lead with some guy named D.A. Elliot.

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finsihed the last of my bios

did 8 of them over the last 2 days

They are in the roster page.

would love to have more info on dr randy gregg and bob macmillian
but what can u do!

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finsihed the last of my bios

did 8 of them over the last 2 days

They are in the roster page.

would love to have more info on dr randy gregg and bob macmillian
but what can u do!
Make sure you put the quote from Don Cherry in there!

"Jeez, how'd you like that guy performing surgery on you with hands like that?"


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Make sure you put the quote from Don Cherry in there!

"Jeez, how'd you like that guy performing surgery on you with hands like that?"

i missed that umm what as he chatting about?

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