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Captain -Messier
Assistant Captains Scott Stevens Rod Brindamour

#12 Steve Thomas- #10 Mark Messier- #13 Mats Sundin
#10 John LeClair- #88 Eric Lindros -#12 Peter Bondra
#10 Butch Keeling -#17 Rod Brind'Amour-#12 Andy Hebenton
#27 Shayne Corson-#11 Murray Oliver- #16 Leo Labine

Depth Players
#8 Dutch Hiller LW- #14 Bill Thoms C - #11 Bob MacMillian RW -#12 Ivan Boldriev, C -#26 Ray Sheppard, RW

#2 Red Horner -#4 Scott Stevens
#2 Wally Stanowski- #3 Ken Danyeko
#5 Barry Beck- #15 Tomas Kaberle

Depth Players
#21 Dr. Randy Gregg D #26 Mike Milbury, D #4 Arnie Brown, D

# 1 Johnny Bower
# 32 Kelly Hrudey
# 30 Cam Ward

Player Bios

#5 Barry Beck
Beck was chosen second overall by the Colorado Rockies at the 1977 Draft.

He was a behemoth on the blueline, a dominant defenceman known as "Bubba" during his distinguished National Hockey league career.

A huge defenceman who could shoot and handle the puck, Barry Beck was dominant at times in the NHL but was often slowed by injuries. He was able to join the rush and use his heavy shot from the point but his strength was playing the body in his own zone.

Even though he was considered a defensive defenceman by some because of the role he played behind gifted offensive minded blue liners Ron Greschner and Reijo Ruotsalainen he did show his offensive creative side when the opportune time presented itself thus allowing him to utilize all of his tools on the ice.He did tallying at least 30 points+ a season in 7 if his 10 NHL campaigns.

At a time when most athletes looked like regular guys, Beck looked like Charles Atlas. The big, aggressive bruiser burst on to the nhl scene by breaking Potvins record for goals by a rookie defenseman with 22 markers. Personable off the ice but fearsome on the ice Beck was the rock that the 1980's Rangers was built on. They were exciting teams. Beck was the constant. Although he didn't score as much or fight as much as the fans wanted him to! Beck's presence in the lineup gave those teams credibility and a force that teams had to recon with. He clearly wanted to be more than a goon. They could have won a championship in another era - but the Islander and Oiler dynasties thwarted him and them. That holds Barry back from being regarded as an all time great defensive defenseman. But he could make any blue line corps on any team in any era.
Legends and Pelletier
RS 615 104 251 355
PO 51 10 23 33
Seasons 10
Era Mid 70's -late 80's
Best Season 1977-78 Colorado Rockies 75 22 38 60
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982)
Finished 2nd to Calder trophy winner Mike Bossy.
Captain of the Rangers for 6 yrs
Ranked Top 100 NY Rangers of All time Book - 62
Role: Defensive Defenseman

#12 Ivan Boldriev, C
Centre Ivan Boldirev was a superior puck handler with a natural touch around the net.Boldriev is more recently known as Stevie Y's mentor and sometime linemate in his(Ivan's) last 2 seasons on the nhl. His career started way back with a deep bruins squad established himself as one of the team's top players replacing mikita as the teams main offensive cog for many seasons.He had an ability to score goals in bunches, consistent productive performer, who throughout his career continued to dazzle fans with his elegant, effort displays of stickhandling.

He was a standout performer in Vancouver's run to the 1982 Stanley Cup Finals, scoring 8 goals in 17 games after a 73-point regular season.
RS:1052 361 505 866
PO:48 13 20 33
Era:Late 60's Mid 80's
Best Season 1983–84 Detroit Red Wings 75 35 48 83
Had 10 straight 50+ seasons
Had five 30+ Goal seasons
Ranks 111th All Time in Goals with 360
Ranks 103rd All Time in Points with 866
Stanley Cup: 1
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1978)
Role:Offensive Relief

#12 Peter Bondra,RW
Peter was drafted by the Capitals in 1990, 156th overall.

Bondra has always been willful, a fighter who does not shy away from rough play but will not tolerate cheap shots. But he is best known as a skilled sharpshooter who can pick off a corner of the net from almost any distance.- Legends of Hockey

Peter was a premier sniper who possessed premier skating ability, with tremendous moves and excellent speed. With great hands and skills, he was a threat to score anywhere from the blue line in. He was just one of the fastest players in league history. Bondra had size and would finish his checks as well as fight through traffic to get his chances. Bonzai was adept at speeding down his wing or jutting through the center ice at the sometime knowing when to pass or to sharp shoot the puck past the enemy netminder. An ever-dangerous penalty killer, he scored a shorthanded goal almost half as often as the opposition scored on the power play. There is nobody in the league like Bondra. When Peter got hot he could melt the ice with his dynamic play.
RS:1081 503 389 892 761
PO:80 30 26 56 60
16 NHL seasons
Era Early 90's Mid 2000's
Played in NHL All-Star Game (93, 96, 97, 1998, 1999)
Finals 1 time
50 Point Seasons -9
70 Point Seasons -6
80 Point Seasons -3
30 Goal Seasons -9
40 Goal Seasons -4
50 Goal Seasons -2
Top 1 Goals Peter Bondra 94-95 Washington 34
Top 4 Goals Peter Bondra 95-96 Washington 52
Top 8 Goals Peter Bondra 96-97 Washington 46
Top 1 Goals Peter Bondra 97-98 Washington 52
Top 4 Goals Peter Bondra 00-01 Washington 45
Top 6 Goals Peter Bondra 01-02 Washington 39
37th player in NHL History to reach 500 goals
94th Highest All Time Point Total with 892
39th Highest All Time Goal Scorer with 503
He holds Capitals team records in:
goals (472),
points (825)
power-play goals (137),
game-winning goals (73)
short-handed goals (32)
and hat tricks (19).
Scored 5 goals in a game
Best Season :1992-93 Washington Capitals 83 37 48 85 70
SparkPlug/Sniper/Speed Demon/Offensive Wizard

#1 Johnny Bower,G
Johnny was one of the swiftest and most graceful goaltenders ever to play the game and it amazes many in the hockey world that such a great goalie took so long to get established in the nhl.Bower, like his other five Original Six brethren, became famous for his fearless play. Maskless, he never shied away from an attacking player and in fact patented the most dangerous move a goalie can make - the poke-check.An aggressive goalie, he used the poke check to stymie opponents. Diving head-first into the skates of an attacking player at full speed, Bower would routinely flick the puck off that player's stick and out of harm's way.Maskless, he never shied away from an attacking player and in fact patented the most dangerous move a goalie can make - the poke-check.Bower was extremely competitive who played best while under pressure.He was one of the finest money goaltenders during the playoffs leading the leafs to 4 cups.


-Beliveau - he was the toughest goalie I ever faced. One time I had the puck in front of a wide open net I shot, lifting my arms , as sure as I ever was that I scored a goal. Miraculously bower had kicked out a leg and stopped my sure fire goal. To this day I can't believe that he stopped that one!-Canadian Hockey Atlas

-Didn't make his mark on a full-time basis until he was 34, when he became the work-horse goalie as Maple Leafs won four Stanley Cups in the 1960s

In 1969, Johnny became the oldest goaltender to appear in a Stanley Cup playoff game, at 44 years, 4 months, and 28 days.

learned my hockey really, when it was around 35, 40 below zero. -Johnny Bower

1963 John Bower G Toronto was a game star in 5 of 10 leaf playoff games. Save percent .949 had 32 and 35 save game shutouts over montreal- Backdated Conn Smythe Award

Perhaps the most remarkable athlete in hockey, Bower has played 10 years for Toronto after being considered washed up in 1958. His lifetime goals against average is under 2.50, the best in the game today. Broke into the NHL with New York.-Hockey Card

RS:552 250 195 90 37 2.51
PO:74 35 34 5 2.47
Era:Mid 50's early 70's
20 win seasons -6
30 win seasons-3
First All-Star Team Goalie 1961.
Vezina Trophy 1961, 1965.
Stanley Cup 1962, 1963, 1964, 1967.
Hall of Fame 1976
Bower's Number 1 is honored by the Leafs.-in 1995
Ranks 2nd all time in leafs goaltender wins with 220
Tied for 3rd most shut out with 33.
Bower fought for Canada in World War II
Top Leafs of all time Book Rank-7

#17 Rod Brind'Amour C/LW
Drafted 9th Overall in 1988.

Rod the bod was noted for having a great work ethic. He was fiercely competitive very consistent gladiator who gave it his all every night on the ice.Was a strong player down low in both ends of the ice and was equally adapt while scoring and defending the play.He had good hand eye coordination which makes him a constant threat to tip in,rebound or just block the goal keep from doing his job. Obviously he was a very steady goal scorer during his 20 odd yr nhl career. Was at one time one of the top face off men in the game.

A great two way player and a NHL iron man for many years who was very underrated for many seasons.Was a very good leader on the ice and in the dressing room.

Had a reputation of being one of the best shutdown centres in the NHL
-scored a goal on his first shot in his first NHL game
-a big game performer tied with claude lemiuex for most playoff goals during the 97 playoffs with 13.
RS 1,404 443 722 1,165
PO 159 51 60 111 97
Seasons 21
Era late 80's -late 2000's
50+ Points Seasons -17
70+ Point Seasons- 9
80+ Point Seasons -4
20+ Goal Seasons -12
30+ Goal Seasons -5
57 Ranked All Time Goals
48 Ranked All Time Points
Captain of the 2006 Stanley Cup Champions
NHL All-Rookie Team (1990)
Frank J. Selke Trophy (2006, 2007)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1992)
Hall of Fame -Very likely
Role: Excellent Two Way Forward/Leader

#4 Arnie Brown,D
Loved by the ny media because he was thoughtful and well spoken.

A boisterous physical stay-at-home rearguard who left the more dynamic play to his defensive partner, Harry Howell. In 1967, Brown served as the backdrop to Howell's Norris Trophy season as the league's top defender.However after a few seasons he slimmed down got in shape and because of Howells influence he became a goal scorer. At one time he was the rangers highest scoring defender with 15 tallies in 68-69

Several years later, Brown teamed up with Brad Park and put in two unprecedented seasons of offensive output. It was the heart of the Bobby Orr era when blueliners began to think and act more offensively. Brown got into the act with 36 points in 1969-70. But during the playoffs of that year, he blew out his knees, which precipitated the demise of his career
RS: 681 44 141 185
PO: 22 0 6 6
Era:Early 60's Mid 70's
Best Season 1969-70 New York Rangers 73 15 21 36
Had 5 straight 20+ seasons
Ranks 93rd all time 100 Ranger Greats
Roleefensive Relief

#27 Shayne Corson, LW
Selected No. 8 overall in the 1984 Draft by les Canadiens

Shayne was a strong skating very hard worker who can score a goals near the front of the net.. When he plays with emotion he is a force while on the forecheck. Has the size strength skill and power to be a great 3rd line forward who can handle all the tough defensive assignments and will be counted on to shut down the top line of the opposition. He is a gritty player who provides a physical presence while on the penalty kill or on the power play where he will own the area alongst the boards
RS:1156 273 420 693
PO:140 38 49 87
Seasons 19
Era Mid 1980's - Mid 2000's
Best Season 1989-90 Canadiens 76 31 44 75
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1990, 1994, 1998)
Cups 1
Twenty Goal + Seasons 5
30+ Point Seasons -11
40+ Seasons 10
50+ Point Seasons-7
70+ Point Sesons 1
Role Two Way Power Forward/Grinder

#3 Ken Daneyko,D
Daneyko was drafted in the 1st round (18th overall) in the 1982 NHL Entry Draft.

Upon his arrival in the NHL, #3 established himself as a stay-at-home defenceman, and soon won fans over with his gritty and self-sacrificing play. As a player who had spent all of his NHL career with New Jersey, Daneyko was nicknamed "Mr. Devil". He is also referred to by the nickname "Dan-o."If there was ever a defenseman defenseman Ken would be it.

He was a rugged and intimidating rearguard who played a solid stay at home game. "Dan-o"excelled at taking the body and providing room around the crease for Marty Brodeur by utilizing his tremendous strength and positional smarts. Tough as nails unsung hero who was a true leader on the ice and in the dressing room.Ken was well recognized as a total team player who did all of the teams dirty work for 20 yrs. He could fight with the best of them, block shots, clear the front of the net and was an exceptional penalty killer.

Definitely put him on one of your two PK units - that's where he really excelled. Back when the Devils were among the league leaders in penalty killing for about a decade straight, Daneyko - not Niedermayer - was the guy paired with Stevens on the top PK unit. -devil hockey fan

Daneyko's effectiveness was not measured by how many pucks he put in the net, but by how many pucks he kept out. Daneyko was used primarily as a shadow defenceman, and often got physical in front of the net if a forward parked himself in the crease looking for a rebound.
legends of hockey

RS:1283 36 142 178
PO:175 5 17 22
Seasons 20
Era -Mid 80's -mid 2000's
Had a iron man streak of 388 games
The Devils retired his sweater number (#3) on March 24, 2006
Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy (2000)
Stanley Cups 3
Role: Defensive Defenceman

#21 Dr. Randy Gregg, D
Gregg was a smart and steady defenceman who was a winner on and off the ice.He was one of seven players to play for all five championship teams. Randy was a valued member on the Oilers Stanley Cups teams and also Canada Cup in 1984 with the national team. In his Oilers’ career, he played in 453 regular-season games, earning 188 points. Although not a goal scorer, he was a defensive specialist that earned him a solid reputation throughout the league
RS 474 41152 193
PO 137 13 40 53
Seasons 10
Era Early 80's Early 90's
Best Season 1983-84 Edmonton Oilers 80 13 27 40
Stanley Cups 5
Role Defensive Defenceman

#12 Andy Hebenton, RW
We are very pleased to add the perfect team player to our ATD Squad. He was a quite leader who lead by example.Andy was a NHL ironman who played 630 straight games.Hebenton was a hard-working, clean player who averaged only nine penalty minutes per season. He won the Lady Byng trophy for gentlemanly play in 1957.

He was a phenomenal hard worker who was never afraid to do the dirty jobs and those jobs always got done.He was considered to be one of the leagues best back checkers and penalty killers during his playing era.
RS 630 189 202 391 83
PO 22 6 5 11
Seasons 9
Era Mid 50's - Mid 60's
Lady Byng Trophy (1957)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1960)
Role: 2 Way forward Checking/ Penalty Killing Specialist

# 8 Dutch Hiller LW
Grew up playing hockey on ponds and in rinks along with Milt Schmidt, Woody Dumart and Bobby Bauer alllearned their trade along with young Hiller.

According to those from hockey circles back in the 30's and 40's Dutch was considered to be the fastest player of his era.Nobody could keep up with Hillier. Some say he was even the fastest player to have ever laced up the skates for the Broadway Blueshirts.This puts him in the same category of speedsters such as Murray Murdock, Danny Lewicki, Pat Hickey, Reijo Routsalainen and more recently Mike Gartner. This surely entrenches how fast Duch really was.

Wilbert Carl Hillier was a fine primary a defensive player who could chip in offensively whenever called upon.Tallying 10 goals plus 4 times and 20+ once.

Dutch was a tough, speedy player who was part of the "Roughneck" line, he joined Phil Watson and Bryan Hextall in making life difficult for the opposition

Contributed six points in 12 games during the Rangers' run to the Stanley Cup. They wouldn't win another for 54 yrs.

Failing eyesight precipitated his departure from the NHL in 1946.
RS: 383 91 113 204
PO:48 9 8 17
Seasons 9
Era: Mid 30's Mid 40's
Adjusted Career Points 383 112 172 284
Adjust Career Playoff Points 48 11 10 21
Adjusted 20 Goal+ Seasons -4
Adjusted 30 Goal+ Seasons 2
Stanley Cups 2
Role: Checker/Speed Demon

#2 Red Horner,D
Red believed that hard work and complete effort was the one way to get ahead!

Known as one of the most competitive and toughest defensemen to play during his era. He carved out his niche as a leader on the ice by taking on all comers by playing a very physical game.Always prepared to use his robust style to serve notice to anyone in an opposing sweater that he would not stand idle and watch his team get pushed around. He wasn't a one dimensional player he was considered a two way rearguard.Reg could move the puck up ice quickly, usually feeding a tape-to-tape pass while having two forecheckers bearing down on him.

At 190 Horner was in great shape, He was always ready for action, and in his case, the more physical the better.He was naturally a heavy hitter. Red use to break fast from the blueline, hit somebody and the puck would still be at his feet. "You had to break fast. I worked hard at it." Reg said.

Horner started his nhl career as a bruising defenseman in 1928-29 along with a two parts of the Kid Line with Joe Primeau, Charlie Conacher and Busher Jackson joined the buds a year later.

Horner was one of the team's most valuable assets. Not only was he a rock-solid, two-way defenceman, Horner was the Leafs' "policeman,'' the tough as nails, aggressive protector of his mates. His mere presence on the ice allowed the leafs to be one of the most successful teams in the nhl during the 1930's.

The the Leafs won their first Stanley Cup in the 1931-32 season, then were a top contender through the NHL's most competitive decade, the hungry '30s when seven different teams won the Cup.

"No one, not even the toughest guys in the NHL, took liberties with the Leafs,'' Clancy once said.

"Do one of us dirt and you had to deal with Red. That was absolutely no fun at all. He was as tough as any man who played the game, an excellent body-checker who fought only when necessary."

Horner led the NHL in penalty minutes in a record eight consecutive seasons from '32-33 to '39-40.

"He has his elbow in your kisser or his fanny in your face every time he is on the ice," said Marlie captain "Shrimp" MacPherson.

In 1933-34 Red scored 11 goals, only Earl Seibert had more goals among the defensemen (13). And in 1937-38 he led all defensemen in assists (20) and points (24).

Horner was involved in the opening ceremonies for the 65th anniversary of Maple Leaf Gardens and its closing the same day. Horner was also involved in the opening of the Air Canada Centre.

Horner was last surviving member of Toronto 1932 Stanley Cup team. He was also the oldest living member of the Hockey Hall of Fame and believed to be the oldest living NHL player at the time of his death in 2005 a few weeks shy of 96.
RS 490 42 110 152
PO 71 7 10 17
Seasons 12
Era late 20 early 40's
Stanley Cup -1932
Finals- 7 times
First Place Team -5 times
Hockey Hall of Fame- 1965
The heavy hitter collected 1,264 pim
Captain of the leafs for 2 yrs.
All Time Leafs Book -Ranked 26th

# 32 Kelly Hrudey
Kelly Hrudey is one of the golden boy's of hockey. Everyone who ever meet him , played with him or watched him on HNIC likes the guy.

Hrudey was selected in the 2nd round of the 1980 NHL Entry Draft, 38th overall, by the New York Islanders.

He saw a lot of pucks with the always gunning kings teams in the Gretzky era and because of that he often had to be brilliant if they stood a chance to win. Hrudey played hockey as a stand up goalie ,a superb skater, very talented puck-handler. Excellent concentration through screens. Kelly possessed very a quick glove hand recovers well for rebounds. He had great lateral movement which allowed him to get a piece of the pucks being shot his way. He was one of the best goalies in the late 80's till the mid 1990's.
RS: 677 271 265 88 17 3.43
PO:85 36 46 0 3.29
Seasons 15
Era Early 1980's -mid 1990's
Best Season 91-92 Los Angeles Kings 60 26 17 13 1 3.37
Stanley Cup Finals 1
Role:Back Up Goalie / Team Glue

#15 Tomas Kaberle,D
Tomas Kaberle was drafted 204th overall in 1996 NHL Entry Draft by the Toronto Maple Leafs. In his first season Kabs wasn't even suppose to make the leafs at all but when he suited up for his first game in the NHL he played an amazing 29 minutes for the blue and white. Proving he was a thoroughbred horse that the leafs could steadily ride for the next decade to follow. He likes to keep the play in the leafs back end crisp and precise. This simplifies the game in the leafs zone before he decides to wheel up the ice or simply pass the puck to his teammates.

Tomas has become an all round star on the blue line in the Mecca of hockey. A fluid elegant swift skater, he can wheel with the puck, is an excellent accurate passer who loves to join the attack.

Kabs has superior hockey sense and this allows him to play with a healthy self-confidence. He collects plenty of points because he possesses tremendous hockey smarts and has the ability to find his teammates on the ice.Tomas provides constant support for his team while becoming one of the elite defencemen in the entire league.

He is now 3rd all time highest scoring defender for the blue and white.Trailing only Borje Salming 768 PTS and Tim Horton 458 PTS while Tomas Kaberle has 437 PTS

Since the lockout only superstars Lidstrom and Niedermayer have out gunned Kaberle: Lidstrom 274, Niedermayer 216 Kaberle 214, XXX 214, XXX 213, Rafalski 213, Pronger 211, Gonchar 208, XXX 201, Chara 190, XXX 189, XXX 182 and Zubov 164.
Kabs is a stalwart on defence that can long 25 minutes+ a game.Very well respected across the nhl for his superb all round game.Great puck possession because he plays with a small stick.The only draw back is he can't pokecheck very well and he isn't overly physical. Well known for his ability to execute the perfect outlet pass. At one time he was considered as just a set up man for XXX and now a days for XXX. He is an effortless skater who can zoom up the ice faster then most players.Tomas possesses great hockey sense and his team benefits from his excellent positional play. His head is always up and he uses his tremendous vision on the ice to make the perfect play. Kaberle always displays the ability to do the proper thing and the right play at the right time.Definitely one of the best puck movers in the game.
-Dave Ried-reworded
RS:74 73 364 437
PO:77 6 22 28 22
11 NHL Seasons
Era Late 1990's -present
Played in NHL All-Star Game (2002, 07,08,09)
Top 10 Assists Tomas Kaberle 05-06 Toronto 58
Best Season :2005-06 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 9 58 67 46
-3rd highest scoring Defenceman in leafs history
-Ranked 54th -100 All Time Leafs Book
Role:Offensive Defenceman/Speed Demon

#10 Butch Keeling,LW
Here's a table of how Keeling ranked over the 12 years he played (26-27 to 37-38) and all-time through 38. I'll throw in Gagne over his first 9 years.

27-38 5 T11 61 27 42 T8 T12 T9 T9 T27
18-38 14 16 65 32 49 T10 T15 T10 T9 T31
SG 00-09 134 20 84 51 T507 T59 T22 T156 T58 T275

Accounting for league size, Gagne is clearly a better scorer in the regular season, but not in the playoffs.

Note that Keeling scored a playoff OT goal and assisted on Bill Cook's OT Stanley Cup winner, and that the Rangers only played 8 playoff OT games during his Ranger career, and they lost 3 of them.

Left-winger Butch Keeling was a fine goal scorer who also competed well in the playoffs. He spent a dozen years in the NHL, mostly with the New York Rangers, and won a Stanley Cup in 1933 with the Blueshirts.

Keeling enjoyed a fine debut in the NHL by scoring eleven goals in 30 games with the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1926-27. He spent one more year with Toronto before he was traded to the Rangers with John Ross Roach for Lorne Chabot and Alex Gray. Keeling became a constant in the Blueshirts' line-up over the next decade and some of his linemates included Babe Siebert and Murray Murdoch. On March 21, 1929, he scored only the second overtime goal in Rangers history when he accounted for the winner in the quarter-finals versus the New York Americans
Most playoff points — 1929
Most playoff goals — 1929

Most goals — 1936-37
Most playoff points — 1929, 1930 (tie)
Most playoff goals — 1929, 1935 (tie), 1937 (tie)
Most playoff assists — 1930

After coming to the Rangers in a blockbuster deal that sent goaltender Lorne Chabot to Toronto, Keeling quickly won a following in New York and lasted 11 seasons with the Blueshirts. A steady winger, he was part of the 1933 championship team and led the Rangers in goals four years later at the age of 30.
- New York Rangers All Time Roster

Keeling had finally won the Stanley Cup, but his finest campaign as a professional was still yet to come. In 1936–37 he led the Rangers with a career-high 22 goals (third in the league) and matched his previous career best with 26 points. He was fourth in team scoring for the fifth time (he never did place higher than fourth in any of his NHL seasons) and also posted high-water marks in the playoffs, notching three goals and five points as the Rangers advanced to a fifth and deciding game in the Stanley Cup final against the Detroit Red Wings.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Keeling

Butch Keeling started with Toronto St. Pats and in his first year played on a line with ... when Hap Day was moved back to the defense.

Keeling was a big and strong player who was fated to perform always in the shadow of the great Cook-Boucher-Cook line. But the second lines of Keeling-Murdoch-Thompson or Keeling-Murdoch-Dillon were no pushovers. They more than held their end up as the Rangers made the playoffs nine of the ten years Keeling was with them.

Butch was a clean player and very seldom started fights but knew how to take care of himself.

He was on a Cup winning team in 1933 and almost made it again in 1937 when in his eleventh year he led the team in scoring, on a line with Phil Watson and Cecil Dillon.
- The Trail of the Stanley Cup Vol. 2

There have been few sturdier forwards in the NHL than Melville "Butch" Keeling.He was always revered on Broadway for assisting on Bill Cook's sudden-death goal in 1933 that won the Rangers their second Stanley Cup.
- Who's Who in Hockey

Left-winger Butch Keeling was an early sharp shooter who started his NHL career with the Leafs and then got traded to Rangers where he stayed for 12 yrs . Butch was a consistent fine goal scorer who also excelled when competing in the playoffs.

Keeling was one of the most underrated players of his day. He was a consistent reliable player who could do it all when the game was on the line and that included taking important faceoffs, scoring big goals as well as playing on both scoring and checking lines.
RS:525 157 63 220 331
PO:47 11 11 22
Era:Mid 20's - late 30's
Seasons 12
Best Season 1936-37 New York Rangers 48 22 4 26
Adjusted Points RS 525 276 208 484
Adjusted Points PO 47 19 19 38
Adjusted Points 20 Goals+ 8 Times
Adjusted Points 30 Goals+ 3 Times
Won a Stanley Cup in 1933 with the Blueshirts.
Ranked 45th Greatest Ranger of All Time
Role: Two Way Forward

#16 Leo Labine
Labine was a tough and feisty hockey player who could not only score, but also get under the skin of the superstars by checking them into the ice. An early pioneer of "trash talk," he used every trick, foul or tool available to terrorize and needle his opponents. He had an above-average scoring touch and a ferocious sense of team spirit that was not unlike his spiritual cousin, "Terrible" Ted Lindsay.To give you a clearer picture of the game Leo LaBine played, perhaps my good friend John Larrabee's memory of the first time he saw Terry O'Reilly play can say more than I can. John remembers saying the first time he saw Terry play, that there was the next Leo LaBine.
- Memorable events in sports history need a stage on which to be played out, and Leo Labine was a man who could set that stage.

The hard-rock right winger who played 11 bone-rattling seasons in the National Hockey League with the Boston Bruins and Detroit Red Wings played a key role in one of hockey's most dramatic Stanley Cup moments, and in one of the league's most historic events.

Mr. Labine was a legendary hard hitter in the six-team era of the NHL. He had ample skill, scoring 128 goals and 321 points in 643 career games, and still holds a Bruins club record of five points in one period against Detroit on Nov. 28, 1954, the night after Hurricane Hazel had torn through the Great Lakes region. That mark endured even through the high-flying days of Bobby Orr and Phil Esposito.

Mr. Labine's stock in trade, when he came out of his native Northern Ontario and through St. Michael's College in Toronto, was as a feisty winger who could make his 170 pounds hit with the robustness of a 200-pounder. He also collected 730 penalty minutes in 643 games.

RS-643 128 193 321
PO-60 12 11 23
Era:ears 1950's easy 1960's.
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1955, 1956)
Best season 1956-57 Boston Bruins 67 18 29 47
Stanley Cup Finals:
Two Way Winger/Grinder

#10 John Leclair LW
Drafted 33rd overall, 1987 by les Habitants

Among the best and most respected power wingers of his era.With his size and grit, left winger John LeClair was made for the modern NHL game. He had the ability to win the battles in the corners and the speed to be dangerous on the rush he simply just had all the tools to dominated the oppositions end.. He had a superbly accurate canonizing shot of 100 mph

Though a slow starter in terms of goal scoring, LeClair made up ground fast, becoming the first American-born player in the history of the league to score more than 50 goals in a season three times.

LeClair's first full season with the Flyers began a streak of three consecutive 50-goal seasons, making him the second Flyer to accomplish such a feat after Tim Kerr.

Any GM who builds teams loved John because of his ample size, toughness and skill

In the Finals in 93' LeClair scored the overtime winner in two consecutive games, the first time any player had done that in the history of the playoffs.

Was the 1st American to score 50 goals in three straight seasons

A perfect fit on my ATD teams because I love to build teams that have ample size, toughness and skill,
RS: 967 406 413 819 501
PO :154 42 47 89 94
Era -Early 1990's -Mid 2000's
Seasons- 16
-NHL First All-Star Team (1995, 1998)
-NHL Second All-Star Team (1996, 1997, 1999)
-World Cup All-Star Team (1996)
-Plus/Minus Award (1997) (1999)
-Played in NHL All-Star Game (1996,97,98,99, 2000)
-2002 Olympics First All-Star team
-three consecutive 50-goal seasons
-Stanley Cup 1993
-Elite Power Forward/Sniper/Leader

#88 Eric Lindros C
The Big "E"was called "the Next One" as a youngster, when expectations for the burly center matched those of his superstar predecessors, Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux

Before he ever stepped out on an NHL ice surface, Eric Lindros was heralded as the next great superstar. While still a boy he dominated NHLers physically, as he proved that in the 1991 Canada Cup. He was once billed as the closest thing to a perfect hockey player ala Gordie Howe.

A franchise player who was the best player in the NHL for a few yrs while at the peak of his career. Eric played over 30 minutes a night and was the most intimidating physical player in the NHL for a time. He had great size , very potent powerful skater, was very creative and intelligent with the puck because of his keen hockey sense. An unstoppable player because of a great work ethic..He passed well but was at his utmost best when finishing the play. He unloaded his shot very quickly, it was so pin point accurate shot that he used it to score from any point on the ice. His ability to check during his prime made the opposing players tentative forcing them to loose focus.

Lindros is the kind of centerman that all GM's look for when they want a big, powerful offensive centre. There aren't many out there.No one could fault another GM for picking him because he's so big and so talented.

When considering if he is a Hall of Fame consider his career as compared to Cam Neely with a higher peak

Players like Guy Lafleur and Cam Neely for their short-but-brilliant peaks, then I feel we can do the same for Eric. 6+ seasons of being amongst the very best in the game.

He may be the most physically imposing forward ever, and was talented enough to win a scoring race. Prior to "the hit", his offensive numbers were elite, especially when you account for the era he played in. 695 points in 486 games, 57 points in 50 playoff games, +215. He's won the Hart, Pearson, tied for a scoring title, and lead the playoffs in scoring. Viciously physical, elite offensive talent, very solid defensively, excellent on the draw.

No other centers bring the physical intimidation that Lindros was capable of during his prime.

He was the sixth fastest player in NHL history to score 600 points, joining the elite company of Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Peter Stastny, Mike Bossy and Jari Kurri.

Lindros finished his career with 372 goals and 493 assists for 865 points, in 760 NHL games.
Seasons 13
Era Mid 1990's to mid 2000's
Won a Memorial Cup
OHL MVP (1991)
Canadian Major Junior Player of the Year (1991)
NHL All-Rookie Team (1993)
WC-A All-Star Team (1993)
Best Forward at WC-A (1993)
NHL First All-Star Team (1995)
Lester B. Pearson Award (1995)
Hart Memorial Trophy (1995)
Runner up for the Art Ross Trophy in 95
NHL Second All-Star Team (1996)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (94, 96, 97, 98, 1999, 2000)
Lead Philadelphia to the Cup finals, leading all playoff scorers with 26 points in 96 before losing to the Wings.
Won a Canada Cup
Team Canada's captain for the 1998 Nagano Olympics.
Gold Medal playing for Canada in the 2002 Winter Olympics
Seven 30+ Goal Seasons
Eight 70+ Point Seasons
Cups- nada
Hall of Fame- Most likely
Role: Generational player-Franchise Forward

#11 Bob MacMillian RW
Bob MacMillan was a first round draft pick of the New York Ranger.

"Mack the Knife" started his profesional career in the WHA with the Minnesota Fighting Saints before jumped to the NHL in 1974.

MacMillian was a typical east coaster known for his energetic skating style, quickness, work ethic and hustle and was reputed with the reputation as a very good team player.He was known for his abilities to win faceoffs,a deft passer,good checker who used all these tools to excels as penalty killer.

Bobby was a versatile forward who played all 3 positions, although his best years came playing on the right wing, a hustling two-way player who increased his points total each season for the first five yrs of his NHL career before peaking with an explosive season collecting 71 assists and 108 points

Not only was his offensive prowess impressive, but he only received just fourteen minutes in penalties during the entire season and was given the Lady Byng Trophy as the league's Most Gentlemanly Player.
- The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1978 Edition
- Hockey Draft Central
- Legends of Hockey
RS:753 228 349 577
PO:31 8 11 19
Seasons 14
Era: Early 70's - Mid 80's
Best Season 1978-79 Atlanta Flames 79 37 71 108
20+ Goal Seasons- 6
30+ Goal Seasons 3
100 Point Seasons 1
Atlanta (MVP): 1977-78
1978-79 poll of coaches found him to be the NHL's most underrated player.
Became first player in Atlanta/Calgary franchise history to break 100 points in 1978-79
Lady Byng Trophy: 1978-79 (Atlanta)
Role Offensive Relief/Penalty Killer

#11 Mark Messier LW/C
Mark Messier's nickname, "the Moose," is a tribute to his size, strength and determination. A player renowned for his leadership abilities and one of the all-time leading NHL scorers, Messier emerged from the great Edmonton Oilers teams of the 1980s to become a hockey superstar. He was a powerful skater who combined playmaking skill and a goal-scoring touch with the toughness necessary to survive and thrive in the corners. Six times his teams sipped from the Stanley Cup and on two occasions Messier took home the Hart Trophy as the league's most valuable player.

Like Gordie Howe, Messier is credited with being the most complete player of his generation. He was a power forward, a two-way left winger and sometime center with talent and overwhelming power and size and an unpredictable mean streak. Messier acquired his multidimensional game during a childhood filled with hockey in his home town of Edmonton as he grew up watching his dad play in the minor leagues.

He was a very intimidating force on the ice who made his opponents freeze on eye contact like deers caught in headlights. He was a goal scorer a playmaker a checker a fighter a leader on and off the ice. What he is best known for is as a winner. He made the oilers win and he was always expected to score the winning goals in tight games in hostile arenas

We have the best player in the world out. said sather once while gretzky was hurt, "and the second best plays like he is the best"

Edmonton provided a stage to to establish messiers reputation as a winner but NY immortalize it.

" He could beat you with strength, speed and passion.."He could play inside the rules and outside the rules, which allowed him to assume those other things. Mark was the most complete player who ever played the game." - Adam Graves
Seasons -25
Era late 70's- Mid 2000's
RS:1756 694 1193 1887
PO:236 109 186 295
Stanley Cups - 6
NHL 1st All-Star Team (1982,83,90,1992)
NHL 2nd All-Star Team (1984) Conn Smythe Trophy (1984)
Lester B. Pearson Award (1990, 1992) Hart Trophy (1990, 1992)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (82,83,84,86,88,89,90,91,92,94,96,97,98,00,2004)

#26 Mike Milbury, D
Mike Milbury was a rugged defenceman played over 750 games for the Boston Bruins in the 1970s and '80s. His defensive zone coverage was exemplary and he used an assortment of tactics to thwart opposition forwards.

Beginning in 1976-77, the tenacious defender was a regular on the Boston blueline for eleven years. He helped the club reach the Stanley Cup final in 1977 and 1978 and continually finish with one of the best goals against records in the NHL. During the club's rebuilding phase in the '80s, Milbury's leadership on and off the ice was a factor in keeping the club competitive despite the large number of new faces in the line up
RS 754 49 189 238
PO 86 4 24 28
Seasons 12
ERA Mid 70's mid 80's
Best Season 1977-78 Boston Bruins 80 8 30 38
Stanley Cup finals 2
Role: Defensive Defenceman Crowd Controler

#11-Murray Oliver,C
Oliver was a slick playmaking centre who could kill penalties and create chances on the power play. He was blessed with excellent hockey sense and scored over 700 career points on four different teams. The tricky forward was considered one of the best in the league at pulling off the fake pass.A smart, slick, skilled centre with excellent hockey sense. Very good two-way centre and a reliable penalty killer.
RS 1127 274 454 728 320
PO 35 9 16 25 10
NHL Seasons 17
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968)
Seasons 30 + Points 16
Seasons 40+ Points -9
Seasons 50+ Points-5
Seasons 60+ Points-3
20 Goal Seasons -5
Top 9 Goals 63-63 -Murray Oliver Boston 24
Top 9 Points 63-64 -Murray Oliver Boston 68
Top 9 Points 62-63 -Murray Oliver Boston 62
Top 10 Points 65-66 -Murray Oliver Boston 60
Best Season :63-64 Boston Bruins 70 24 44 68
Role:Two Way Forward

#26 Ray Sheppard,RW
Sheppard was selected 60th overall by the Buffalo Sabres in the 1984 NHL Entry Draft

A natural born goal scorer Ray was a sharpshooter with a great wrist shot who relied on quick hands and a flair for being at the right spot at the right time to score.He was very good at potting goals after deflections . Never the fastest player he had keen offensive instincts and a nice pair of hands. He was one of the nhl's best garbage men of the1990's. During a 5 yr span in the 1990's only he and Jagr scored at least 30 goals per campaign
RS 817 357 300 657
PO 81 30 20 50
Seasons 13
Era Mid 80's Early 2000's
Best Season 1993–94 Detroit Red Wings 82 52 41 93
Stanley Cup Finals 2
NHL All-Rookie Team (1988)
Once sold to the NY Rangers by Buffalo for a buck.
Scored first playoff goal in Florida Panthers history
First NHLer to score 20 goals with 6 different teams
Role Relief Sniper

#2 Wally Stanowski D
Stanowski was one of the first rushing defenceman. He loved to lead the attack as often as he joined it when he did he would amaze by making dashing spectacular rushes up the ice.

Stanowski was a clever defensive player who excelled in his own zone first and foremost. The Whirling Dervish was a very mobile and aggressive defenceman who was a skilled bodychecker who became very well know for his exceptional skating mobility and the smarts to keep up with any speedster.

Wally also possessed the strength to battle anywhere on the ice.He used his size strength and skating ability to dominant anytime he wanted to using superior puck poise. Once the puck got onto Wally's stick it was going to be very difficult for the opposition to get it back. Any player who can skate the puck out of danger and create offense with his superior skills is a very valued player.

As creative and valued as he was because of what he brought to the teams offense he was also considered to be a rock defensively often pairing up with his defensive partners to create a wall in the leafs defensive zone.

Winner of Four Stanley Cups and was a first-team. all-star in 41 and made another all star appearance in 47:
RS: 428 23 88 111
PO: 60 3 14 17
-Era late 30's early 50's
-Seasons 10
-Turnbull Cup MJHL Championship (1938)
-Memorial Cup Championship (1938)
-NHL First All-Star Team (1941)
-Stanley Cup Championships (1942, 1945, 1947, & 1948)
-Played in NHL All-Star Game (1947)
-Lost 4 yrs to the war
-Ranked 51 in the All Time leafs Book
-Inducted into the Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame and Museum in 2004
-“Honoured Member” of the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame
Role -Two way Defenceman.

#4 Scott Stevens,D
Tough, mean, monster hits, leadership,skilled, air tight defensive play, excellent shot blocker, Inspirational leader and workhorse. Scott protected the fort with his usual uncompromising ferocity during the post season but also shows a offensive flair by opening up defenses with long probing strikes or he would strike using his venomous slapshoot.

Scott Stevens was one of the most complete defenceman in the nhl. When the Devlis need a timely goal Stevens would power a shot from the left point. Although he lacked the speed of a Coffey Stevens moved from point "A" to "B" as well as one on the game. He was very strong and stable on his skates almost impossible to knock down. When Scott hits you other players would admit that the pain lasted for days. He was very physical and smart about it. Scott doesn't take penalties and was great in front of his own net.

One of the games fiercest competitors Stevens handled all the toughest assignments and would set the physical tone utilizing crushing open-ice hits that motivated everyone in a new jersey sweater.
RS:1635 196 712 908 2785
PO:233 26 92 118 402
NHL Seasons 22
Stanley Cups 3
Conn Smythe Trophy (2000)
NHL All-Rookie Team (1983)
NHL First All-Star Team (1988, 1994)
NHL Second All-Star Team (1992, 1997, 2001)
Hall of Famer 2007
50 + Point Seasons -8
60 + Point Seasons -5
70 + Point Seasons -2
20 + Goal Saeasons -1
Best Season :1993-94 New Jersey Devils 83 18 60 78 112 +53
Role: Defensive-Franchise Player
Defenceman/Inspiration Leader/Generational Defensive Talent

#13 Mats Sundin
Captain Mats was one of the games biggest 1st line power forwards ever to have graced an nhl ice surface. Sudden Sundin was a very durable elite forward who had an excellent package of size strength and finesse. He used his reach to a degree that it is very hard to get the puck from him. Was extremely slick, loved to find the holes and had a wide variety of shots. Consistency was the name of his game.His shot was feared because of its accuracy.He was used in all game situations power play penalty killing and was a great faceoffman especially when the game was on the line.

In his last season as a leaf he was as dominant now as he was when he first came to the leafs some 14 seasons ago. Mats had never been flanked by top line talent on his line. He always centered past prime free agent gap players who were good enough to be propped up by Mats ability to make other players appear better then they were.

Mats had a very long successful career despite MSLE pursuit of the almighty dollar instead of Stanley Cups but in the eyes of leaf fans Mats is a winner on and off the ice.

His shots were quick, hard, and accurate, his passes crisp and sharp, but soft and tape to tape. you can't ask for a better on ice performance.- Leaf Fan

faster then he appeared, stronger then most players, terrific on the draw, difficult to defend against. Very professional always gave his all and was a great leader - ray ferraro

was one of the best player in maple leaf history and he was a honest everyday performer who was very dependable - pat quinn

all time leading Swedish scorer in NHL history

"The greatest thing about all leaders is they don't talk about it, they do it," said Glen Heal of Mats Sundin

"You look at his game-winning goals, his overtime goals, he's the guy who, if the game was on his stick he did it. He got it done."

"He always wanted the puck when the game was on the line, and that's what true great leaders do. They want to be on the ice and they want the puck." Tie Domi

"Mats was just a big horse of a player," "He played hard, and he always carried his weight. He could play in any situation."
Wendel Clark

. "Even in his last few year, he was still one of the top 20 players in the world. And in his day, he was top five. He had it all, size, strength, speed — he's competitive beyond belief. I think maybe that's the thing people don't recognize, just how competitive he was." Glenn Helay

25th All Time in NHL Overall Career Points
20th All Time in NHL Overall Career Goals
Games 1346 Goals 564 Points 1349 +73 PIM 1093 SH 31 GW 96
Playoff Totals 91 38 44 82 74
NHL Seasons 18
Era: Early 1990's -late 2000's
Swedish World All-Star Team (1991, 1992, 1994, 1997)
Canada Cup All-Star Team (1991)
WC-A All-Star Team (1992)
Named Best Forward at WC-A (1992)
World Cup All-Star Team (1996)
NHL Second All-Star Team (2002, 2004)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000,01,02,04)
Longest serving euro captain in the biggest hockey market in the world
Leads the Leafs in nearly every offensive category,
4 olympic golds (captain for 2 golds, a silver and a bronze),
leads NHL in OT goals,
first Swedish 500 goal scorer,
9 time first All-Star,
and may end up top 15 in overall points and goals in the NHL.
20 + Goal Seasons -17
30 + Goal Seasons- 13
40 + Goal Seasons- 3
70 + Point Seasons -15
80 + Point Seasons -6
90 + Point Seasons -2
110 + Point Seasons -1
Top 10 Goals Mats Sundin 97-98 Toronto 33
Top 2 Goals Mats Sundin 01-02 Toronto 41
Top 8 Goals Mats Sundin Toronto 37
Top 10 Assists Mats Sundin 98-99 Toronto 52
Top 7 Points Mats Sundin 96-97 Toronto 94
Top 4 Points Mats Sundin 01-02 Toronto 80
Best Season :1992-93 Quebec Nordiques 80 47 67 114
Ranked 12th -100 All Time Leafs Book
Role: Stud Forward/Game Breaker/Clutch Forward
Future Hall of Famer

#32 Steve Thomas RW
Signed as a Free Agent by the leafs in 84 Thomas became a fan favorite because of his skill desire and everyman appeal. Stumpy was one the more consistent clutch scorers in the game during most of his 20 yr career.

Thomas was a high energy player, relying on explosive speed bursts to key a ferocious fore-check.

Thomas is one who immediately comes to mind when the discussion of the most underrated players comes up. He always worked hard and was a great team guy.

Thomas, who essentially was an opportunistic mucker and grinder. His physical game made him popular wherever he played.
-Joe Pelletier

Thomas had a very strong desire to succeed.Speedy Steve thrived with a play making forwards.A very quick shooting with great instincts. A tough nosed player who would go anywhere on the ice to get a chance to score. He had a high on ice IQ hockey sense wise. Had a pair of decent hands and he could slam a blast past any goalie from any angle on the ice. He was not afraid to tread into the rough stuff on the ice. Stumpy was competitive and a combative fore checker. Can ride shotgun on any top line because he was always willing to pay the price to get his team ahead.

He had a rep as one of the best big game players during his era.Shown his courage and toughness night in and night out especially when all was on the line.
RS: 1235 421 512 933
PO: 174 54 53 107
Era: Mid 80's Mid 2000's
Seasons 20
Best Season 1992–93 New York Islanders 79 37 50 87
Stanley Cup Finals 1
60 Points+ Seasons -8
20 Goal Seasons + 10
30 Goal Seasons+ 5
40 Goal Seasons 2
Game winning Goals 23rd all time with 78
Overtime Goals 12th all time with 10
Playoff Shots on Goal All Time 20th with 444
70 career game winning goals, ranking him among the all time best of ll time
All Time Points - 85th with 933
All Time Goals- 68th with 421
Highest All Time Scoring player from England
Toronto Maple Leafs Top 100 Book Ranked 64th
Role: Sniper/Clutch Player

#14 Bill Thoms, C
Bill Thoms was a very underrated talent who played over 500 NHL games in the 1930's and 40's for mainly the Leafs and the Blackhawks .Bill was a fine goal scorer who was equally proficient at creating chances for his linemates.
RS:548 135 206 341
PO: 44 6 10 16
Adjusted Stats -RS:548 205 365 570
Adjusted Stats -PO:44 10 19 29
Era:Early 30's mid 40's
Best NHL Season 1941-42 Chicago Black Hawks 47 15 30 45
1935-36 NHL NHL All-Star Team (2nd)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1934)
Goals 1935-36- 23 (1)-Lead the NHL
Assists 33-34 18 (9th) 37-38 24 (5th) 41-42 30 (4th)
Points 35-36 -38 (4th)37-38- 38 (7th),41-42 0 45 (6th)
Lead Team in Scoring 35-36 Toronto 40-41 Chic, 41-42 Chic
Adjusted 10 Goal seasons 10
Adjusted 15 Goal Seasons 5
Adjusted 20 Goal seasons 3
Adjusted 40 Goal seasons 1
Adjusted 30 Point Seasons 10
Adjusted 40 Point Seasons 7
Adjusted 50 Point Seasons 5
Adjusted 60 Point Seasons 3
Adjusted 70 Point Seasons 1
Role:Offense Relief

# 30 Cam Ward,G
Ward was drafted 25th overall by the Carolina Hurricanes in the 2002 NHL Entry Draft.

Ward is a classic butterfly goalie who remains square to the shooter. He is a goalie that enjoys his job, too, and plays better the more fun he is having.Owns a lighting quick glove hand, has excellent rebound control a calm confident nature that allows his team mates to play to there utmost potential. Ward enjoys up-tempo hockey and thrives when he's busy. Prefers to play it safe with the puck.

After posting 15 wins, 2 shutouts and suiting up for 23 of Carolina's 25 playoff games the rookie netminder led his team to its first Stanley Cup. Ward became the fourth rookie goaltender to be named the Conn Smythe Trophy winner as most valuable player of the playoffs.(Dryden,Roy, Hextall)
RS 225 120 77 18 12 2.81.903
PO 41 23 18 4 2.38 .917
Seasons 4
Era mis 2000's -Present
Best Season 2008–09 Carolina Hurricanes 68 39 23 5 6 2.44 .916
Stanley Cups 1
2005–06 Conn Smythe Trophy
2007 World Championships (gold medal)
2008 World Championships (silver medal)
All-Rookie Team (2005)
Conn Smythe Trophy (2006)
Role Relief Starting Franchise Goalie

Rnd 1 18TH Overall- Mark Messier LW/C
Rnd 2 47TH Overall-Scott Stevens D
Rnd 3 82nd Overall-Johnny Bower G
Rnd 4 111TH Overall-Eric Lindros C/RW
Rnd 5 146TH Overall-Red Horner D
Rnd 6 175TH Overall-Mats Sundin C/RW
Rnd 7 210TH Overall-John LeClair LW
Rnd 8 239TH Overall-Rod Brind'Amour C/LW
Rnd 9 274TH Overall-Wally Stanowski D
Rnd 10 303RD Overall-Peter Bondra RW
Rnd 11 338TH Overall-Punch Imlach Coach
Rnd 12 367TH Overall-Ken Daneyko D
Rnd 13 402ND Overall-Barry Beck D
Rnd 14 431ST Overall-Steve Thomas LW
Rnd 15 466TH Overall-Tomas Kaberle,D
Rnd 16 495TH Overall-Leo Labine,RW
Rnd 17 530TH Overall-Shayne Corson,LW
Rnd 18 559TH Overall- Murray Oliver,C
Rnd 19 594TH Overall- Andy Hebenton,RW
Rnd 20 623RD Overall- Frank McCool,G-dropped
Rnd 21 658TH Overall- Butch Keeling, LW
Rnd 22 687TH Overall- Dutch Hiller, LW
Rnd 23 722ND Overall- Dr. Randy Gregg, D
Rnd 24 751ST Overall- Bill Thoms, C
Rnd 25 803RD Overall- Bob Macmillian, RW
Rnd 26 804TH Overall- Mike Milbury, D
Rnd 27 861ST Overall- Ivan Boldriev, C
Rnd 28 862ND Overall- Cam Ward, G
Rnd 29 931ST Overall-Arnie Brown, D
Rnd 30 932ND Overall-Ray Sheppard, RW
Signs FA Kelly Hrudey, G

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#17 Rod Brind'Amour-#12 Andy Hebenton
#4 Scott Stevens #3 Ken Danyeko

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#27 Shayne Corson-#11 Murray Oliver
#2 Wally Stanowski #2 Red Horner

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#32 Steve Thomas#10 Mark Messier- #13 Mats Sundin
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I read the bios that you guys put out there and for god sakes take excerpts and quote the source

No wonder some gms don't read them

condense in away that males sense it is a little more work but it will be worth it in the end

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i missed that umm what as he chatting about?
It's a classic Don Cherry story. Gregg somehow got a breakaway, and since he's a stay at home defenseman, he botched it up pretty bad. Cherry said "and that guy's a doctor! How'd you like a guy operating on you with hands like that?"

Cherry said his mom called him right away and told him what a jerk he was, and to never, ever get that personal in your comments, and according to Cherry, he never has since.

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I read the bios that you guys put out there and for god sakes take excerpts and quote the source

No wonder some gms don't read them

condense in away that males sense it is a little more work but it will be worth it in the end
Exactly what are you referring to? Honestly, I find your bios the most difficult to read.

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It's a classic Don Cherry story. Gregg somehow got a breakaway, and since he's a stay at home defenseman, he botched it up pretty bad. Cherry said "and that guy's a doctor! How'd you like a guy operating on you with hands like that?"

Cherry said his mom called him right away and told him what a jerk he was, and to never, ever get that personal in your comments, and according to Cherry, he never has since.

Exactly what are you referring to? Honestly, I find your bios the most difficult to read.
My bios usually tell a nick name and I like to actively present how they played while I leave career stats and accomplishments to be listed after the bio.

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My bios usually tell a nick name and I like to actively present how they played while I leave career stats and accomplishments to be listed after the bio.
So, whose "difficult to read" bios are you referring to?

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So, whose "difficult to read" bios are you referring to?
i dont like how big paragraphs are posted with a few highlighted sentences

just edit and quote the source

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i dont like how big paragraphs are posted with a few highlighted sentences

just edit and quote the source
So who are you referring to? I still can't tell.

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So who are you referring to? I still can't tell.
Probably to me, but I love the way I do my bios, so that won't change soon

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Probably to me, but I love the way I do my bios, so that won't change soon
I least you do bios which is mroe then i can say about some other gms

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Probably to me, but I love the way I do my bios, so that won't change soon
Agree, I love the way we do bios, and that won't change

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I least you do bios which is mroe then i can say about some other gms
Most GMs, I'd say.

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Alf Skinner

Skinner played top-level hockey for over a decade, starting in 1914-15 in the NHA with Toronto and finishing with the Pittsburgh Pirates in the NHL in 1925-26.

Skinner was a respectable goal scorer

1917-18: 10th in NHL goals
1918-19: 6th in NHL goals
1919-20: 3rd in PCHA goals
1920-21: 3rd in PCHA goals
1921-22: 8th in PCHA goals
1922-23: 10th in PCHA goals

Skinner was also among the finest defensive forwards of his day.

Toronto Star, February 16, 1916 (Skinner was 20):Skinner's greatest moment as a hockey player came in the 1917-18 Stanley Cup finals against Vancouver. He scored 8 goals in 5 games, was consistently Toronto's best player, and continued to display excellent defensive play.

Toronto Star, March 21, 1918 (Game 1 of SCF): Toronto Star, March 25, 1918 (Game 2 of SCF):Toronto Star, March 27, 1918 (Game 3 of SCF):Globe and Mail, March 29, 1918 (Game 4 of SCF):Toronto Star, April 1, 1918 (Game 5 of SCF):

Although Skinner scored 8 goals in these finals, he wasn't really the one driving the offense - more of a complementary player and finisher who had a good series. Most of his goals came off rebounds or as the finish for a good passing play.

In summary, Skinner is a fast, hard-working player who will fill his lane and go hard to the net on the attack, and backchecks ferociously when the other team has the puck.

Edit: I've looked at the 1922 finals in the Toronto Star more recently, and there was more on Skinner here. It's not as positive, which isn't surprising, as the 1918 Cup finals were Skinner's high point.

Toronto Star, March 18, 1922

Toronto Star, March 22, 1922

Toronto Star, March 24, 1922

Toronto Star, March 29, 1922

I've also checked the game logs from the 1917-18 season. The first few games have a few quotes that, when added to the 1922 quotes, suggest why Skinner is not better remembered. All quotes are from the Toronto Star.

Dec 13, 1917 (during preparations for the season):

Dec 20, 1917 (the season has begun):

Dec 24, 1917

Dec 27, 1917

Jan 10, 1918

Jan 29, 1918

Feb 5, 1918:

Feb 11, 1918:

Feb 12, 1918:

Feb 19, 1918:

Feb 25, 1918:

March 4, 1918:

From these quotes, we can see the trajectory of Skinner's 1917-18 season. Skinner starts off the year in poor shape, carrying some extra weight, and his play was poor. He plays his way into shape after a few games, and has some excellent games, but he's still inconsistent.

To his credit, he was terrific in the 1918 Cup Final. However, in 1922, he appears to have been struggling with his weight again. This inconsistency is probably the reason that Skinner is not remembered as a strong defensive player.
Nice additions to your post. The more one finds, the better. And it's not that skinner isn't remembered as a good defensive player - it's that he's not remembered at all!

I think that the laziness and weight issues are few and far between the good stuff here. Much of the stuff you added still hints to him being a good defensive player and a fan favourite.

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Originally Posted by seventieslord View Post
Nice additions to your post. The more one finds, the better. And it's not that skinner isn't remembered as a good defensive player - it's that he's not remembered at all!

I think that the laziness and weight issues are few and far between the good stuff here. Much of the stuff you added still hints to him being a good defensive player and a fan favourite.
Oh yeah, I think the weight of the evidence still suggests that he is a good or very good defensive player. It's just that he's a guy who's best attributes were his speed and backchecking, and at times he was out of shape and wasn't really bringing anything to the ice at those times. That's enough to put him at least a level below the best defensive forwards, I think, although he's still a fine overall player.

The fan favourite thing is interesting. He was a Toronto boy who played his junior hockey there, and various mentions in the Star make it appear that he was definitely a local favourite. That's part of the reason why there are a lot of good quotes on him. I do wonder if the Star was a little too positive towards his play at times, as a local boy and fan favourite. It would be nice to see some quotes from other papers.

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