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10-20-2009, 11:27 AM
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Columbus trades Stefan Legein to Philadelphia for Mike Ratchuk

http://twitter.com/DNFlyers

Good riddance to bad apples.

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10-20-2009, 11:28 AM
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[PHI/CBJ] Stefan Legein traded for Mike Ratchuk

Does anyone know anything about this dude?

HF Profile> http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/michael_ratchuk

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10-20-2009, 11:33 AM
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Does anyone know anything about this dude?

HF Profile> http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/michael_ratchuk
Just about to put that up. Looks like a smallish lefty. Dont we have one of those?

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Well, this is unexpected.

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10-20-2009, 11:38 AM
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Wohoo, adding to our growing collection of upside Smurfs.

Not a bad return for SL.

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I didn't realize Howson gave up on him.

Sam, why do you call him a bad apple?

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I'm happy with this move. Mostly because of who we shipped off, but the return definitely has some upside.

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Howson is adding to his stable of dmen. If half of the prospect dmen turn out, this team will have a very good defense for years to come, providing they can all be kept, if not they are good trade bait.

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I didn't realize Howson gave up on him.

Sam, why do you call him a bad apple?
I know the company line is to say that "He was just a young kid, and they make mistakes." But how often do 18 year old 2nd round draft picks with signed contracts quit to work at a Pizza Place? I mean, we're still flipping out over Filatovs comments about potentially not honoring his contract, but this kid actually did that, and he (for the most part) got a free pass.

When he came back, he was a shell of what he used to be. I doubt he develops.

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10-20-2009, 11:51 AM
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Wow. Can't say that, on its face, I like the move. Don't feel we need another defenseman of what Ratchuk's ilk seems to be. Don't feel Legein was a lost cause - in fact, I think he was on his way to being what we thought he was. Don't like trading a player who's a year older.

Obviously, Howson and the braintrust are operating on an entirely different plane of existence and information, but I don't understand the move, especially in light of the fact that we are increasingly thin on high end forwards.

Didn't like the Russell resigning either.

Is it possible Howson is arranging pieces for some other trade? Can't say what I think it might be, but this trade really just doesn't make sense to me unless the CBJ had really given up on Legein OR something else is in the works. It just doesn't seem to fit an orgnizational need.

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Big surprise. I thought they liked the progress he made.

Whatever makes Calvert a little closer to making the team I suppose.

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I have to wonder if he was having problems in Syracuse again this year and we just arn't hearing about it.

I still think the kid is a headcase, doubt he will ever make it in the NHL.

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Ratchuk's first goal for the Phantoms.


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I know the company line is to say that "He was just a young kid, and they make mistakes." But how often do 18 year old 2nd round draft picks with signed contracts quit to work at a Pizza Place? I mean, we're still flipping out over Filatovs comments about potentially not honoring his contract, but this kid actually did that, and he (for the most part) got a free pass.

When he came back, he was a shell of what he used to be. I doubt he develops.
He was burned out. It happens to people at different stages in life. I don't think it's a bad thing. It's not as if he went to play hockey elsewhere. He took some time off to heal up and recharge the batteries, so to speak. He needed to get away from hockey for a bit. That's the difference between him and what Filatov was talking about.

He wasn't the first player to walk away, and he probably won't be the last either. People make such a big deal about it because Legein had some press and some credentials.

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10-20-2009, 12:07 PM
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Just looking at the type of player Legein is/was for us...

we have a lot of those (agitator types) - Dorsett, Boll, Blunden, Sestito

The Syracuse people have been complaining about their defense, we have too many forwards, maybe we were just trying to even-out the numbers.

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Just looking at the type of player Legein is/was for us...

we have a lot of those (agitator types) - Dorsett, Boll, Blunden, Sestito

The Syracuse people have been complaining about their defense, we have too many forwards, maybe we were just trying to even-out the numbers.
This makes sense. It's not Dan Smith, so Kramer will probably be pissed.

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that goal was amazing, i dont care if thats the ahl, he OBVIOUSLY has some serious skills. offensively at least. I like the trade a lot, legein wasnt really going anywhere in our organization. imho

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I like the move a lot. Im with Samkow in saying good riddance. I dont give up on a guy because of one incident, however I had a bad gut feeling about Legein . . . . . and I have a pretty big gut so Im usually dead on with these types of things.

Howson, always on the prowl

I dont know if any of you subscribe to THN, but according to their yearbook edition, Ratchuk is the Flyers #3 Prospect!!!!!! They had Legein #9 for us.

Interesting, this guy is a converted forward. Not too much bigger than Russ, inch taller and 10 lbs heavier.


Really liked that video clip from CBJ Nut, looked like he had some nice moves.

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Legein won't be missed. Good trade Howson.

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Here is another sweet video of Ratchuk. Guy just has some slick moves.


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He was burned out. It happens to people at different stages in life. I don't think it's a bad thing. It's not as if he went to play hockey elsewhere. He took some time off to heal up and recharge the batteries, so to speak. He needed to get away from hockey for a bit. That's the difference between him and what Filatov was talking about.

He wasn't the first player to walk away, and he probably won't be the last either. People make such a big deal about it because Legein had some press and some credentials.
(I'd like to add that I'm not, unlike the classic HF Tradition, smearing the guy because he's gone. I said similar things over the summer)

I don't know if headcase is the right word, but at the very least, you have to wonder if his desire and work ethic are strong enough for Legein to make the next step. This doesn't happen to many prospects. Seeing as those were some of the qualities that made him a 2nd round draft pick, I doubt turns out.

He isn't the first guy to get burned out. I don't think it's a stretch to say that everyone who's ever played hockey at any level gets burned out. But his actions make me question if he has the Right Stuff to play in the NHL.


On another subject, Columbus has plenty of guys like him, both in the system and in the NHL. You can take any number of the following things out of this.
-Columbus didn't think Legein was going anywhere.
-Columbus thinks really highly of Ratchuk
-Syracuse needs defensman
-Mathieu Roy isn't heading back to Syracuse anytime soon.

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And here is a preview of some slick passing as well



Interview after game


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From one of my buddies who is a Flyers fan.

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Ratchuk has a very high offensive ceiling. He hasn't been able to show he can put it all together so far in the AHL. I'm a tad disappointed to see us give up on him so quickly. The kid had a lot of buzz around him when he first joined the Phantoms.

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I would have thrown in a bag of pucks to expedite the trade.

Good move.

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Ratchuk's first goal for the Phantoms.

Reminds me of the Stralman goal.



Or...there's this other one. I can't remember...

Oh yeah!



We're secretly trying to set the record of having the most players to have played for the Blue Jackets that have scored end to end goals.

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