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10-19-2009, 12:25 PM
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How many 1st line center there is in the NHL?
Just wondering.
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Just wondering.
Anywhere from 1 to 32, it depends who you talk to.

Most think there are one per team, which would make 30, with maybe a couple of "virtual ties" that could get us to 32.

Others think only the top 16 should count because that's how many playoff teams there are.

Still others think only Tall guys should qualify, and yet others only French guys.

There are 27.5 people who think that only Vincent Lecavalier qualifies as a #1 centreman.
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29, since Toronto doesn't have a first line.
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More or less 30. A few teams don't really have one but some have more than one (Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc. I'm looking at you).
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1st line centers? 30. It's simple.

If you are talking about stud centerman, there are probably less than 10.
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According to most HFboards members, 3 or 4.
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According to most HFboards members, 3 or 4.
Ha!ha! That's great!
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Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin and Kolvalchuk
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According to most HFboards members, 3 or 4.
and they all play for Pittsburgh (except that 'or 4', he's in Tampa)
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Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin and Kolvalchuk
Martin Brodeur, Luongo...
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10-19-2009, 12:49 PM
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You judge based on talent, not on how many teams there are.

Crosby
Malkin
Lecavalier
Getzlaf
Thornton
Kopitar
Roy
Spezza
Savard
Ribeiro
Mike Richards
Carter
Brad Richards
Backstrom
Eric Staal
Paul Stastny
Jonathan Toews
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Henrik Sedin

Jason Arnott and Olli Jokinen are borderline, but they're really a tier below these other guys. Tavares is good, but it's too early to tell how good he is right now.

As for the rest - not first line center. I'm looking at you, Scott Gomez.
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10-19-2009, 12:54 PM
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In my opinion it would be centers in the league who are ppg. So 80pts in 80 games, 70 pts in 70 games, obviously exempting the ones who are often injured for 25+ games a season.
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I guess the literal answer is 30.

But really some teams have an abundance of bonafide first line centers(philly, pens, wings) while others don't have any(habs, Leafs).
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Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin and Kolvalchuk
Damn could have swore he was a LW. Them Russians are so tricky.
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According to most HFboards members, 3 or 4.
A bit the point of the thread anyway.
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Damn could have swore he was a LW. Them Russians are so tricky.
Damn I though Ovechkin was LW as well! They are so SLY those Russians!
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You judge based on talent, not on how many teams there are.

Crosby
Malkin
Lecavalier
Getzlaf
Thornton
Kopitar
Roy
Spezza
Savard
Ribeiro
Mike Richards
Carter
Brad Richards
Backstrom
Eric Staal
Paul Stastny
Jonathan Toews
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Henrik Sedin

Jason Arnott and Olli Jokinen are borderline, but they're really a tier below these other guys. Tavares is good, but it's too early to tell how good he is right now.

As for the rest - not first line center. I'm looking at you, Scott Gomez.
So that's 20 players. But fewer than 20 teams are represented - 16 in fact. Only half the teams in the league have a first line center? This makes no sense. By definition every team has a first line center - the player who centers their first line! It goes without saying that some are stronger than others, but some teams are stronger than others, too. Holding everyone to such a high standard is why lots of Habs fans won't be happy until we have Crosby centering our top line - and Lecavalier on the second.


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In my opinion it would be centers in the league who are ppg. So 80pts in 80 games, 70 pts in 70 games, obviously exempting the ones who are often injured for 25+ games a season.
Only 10 centers were PPG or better last year. Your standards are a bit too high, no?
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I would place Spezza and Marleau ( if he was playing centre which he would be on any other team ) On that list. Stamkos, Dubinsky,Tavares and Zajac will be on that list come the end of this year for sure.
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You judge based on talent, not on how many teams there are.

Crosby
Malkin
Lecavalier
Getzlaf
Thornton
Kopitar
Roy
Spezza
Savard
Ribeiro
Mike Richards
Carter
Brad Richards
Backstrom
Eric Staal
Paul Stastny
Jonathan Toews
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Henrik Sedin

Jason Arnott and Olli Jokinen are borderline, but they're really a tier below these other guys. Tavares is good, but it's too early to tell how good he is right now.

As for the rest - not first line center. I'm looking at you, Scott Gomez.
Top drafted prospect C's in terms of talent? Top Undrafted? (I'd like to start thinking for 2011 with Gomez officially on the 2nd).
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Damn I though Ovechkin was LW as well! They are so SLY those Russians!
Wow you fooled me with that SLY dry humor.
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Every player above Koivu was a 1st line center.
Now, it's every center above Gomez.
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So that's 20 players. But fewer than 20 teams are represented - 16 in fact. Only half the teams in the league have a first line center? This makes no sense. By definition every team has a first line center - the player who centers their first line! It goes without saying that some are stronger than others, but some teams are stronger than others, too. Holding everyone to such a high standard is why lots of Habs fans won't be happy until we have Crosby centering our top line - and Lecavalier on the second.




Only 10 centers were PPG or better last year. Your standards are a bit too high, no?
WHO CARES if each team *theoretically* has a "first line center". By your explanation, the OP should have just asked how many teams in the NHL.
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Every player above Koivu was a 1st line center.
Now, it's every center above Gomez.
This is a great point, does seem like a viscious circle around here doesn't it ?
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  1. Malkin
  2. Crosby
  3. Thornton
  4. Spezza
  5. Richards or Carter (not both)
  6. Savard
  7. Backstrom
  8. Eric Staal
  9. Datsyuk
  10. Zetterberg (center or LW??)
  11. Berglund
  12. Sedin
  13. Toews
  14. Getzlaf
  15. Marleau (plays more LW than C)
  16. Kopitar
  17. Lecavalier
  18. Elias ??

off the top of my head
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