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04-10-2004, 10:00 AM
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Expect Doug Jarvis...

Folks, if the habs do not advance to the next round, expect Doug Jarvis as the coach of the Habs next season.
Hopefully they do advance.

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really ? and what will you get ? Do you think Jarvis is better than Julien ? me not. Julien has been coach in Hull, Halminton, WCJ and he was always 1 of the best. The Habs is improving this year but Boston is still better team.

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Julien was better in Hamilton than Jarvis is right now, so why would they bring Jarvis instead of Julien? Plus Julien got us to 41 wins, one of the best teams in the league if you look carefully. You really are a smart boy. There's no reason to fire Julien, he will gain experience.

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Folks, if the habs do not advance to the next round, expect Doug Jarvis as the coach of the Habs next season.
Hopefully they do advance.
Not a chance. Julien did an exceptionnal job this year with that bunch of veterans and quite deserve at least another full season to prove what he can do! IMO Julien is here for several other seasons, he will have it easier next year without all those one way contract vets!

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Julien was better in Hamilton than Jarvis is right now, so why would they bring Jarvis instead of Julien? Plus Julien got us to 41 wins, one of the best teams in the league if you look carefully. You really are a smart boy. There's no reason to fire Julien, he will gain experience.

Why? It's simple. It's Bob Gainey's man. That's when the real Bob Gainey's system kicks in and a successful one at that.

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We're lucky we made it in the playoffs, and that was all because of Julien's work with our kids.

CJ needs to be kept in place so we continue to move forward.

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Why? It's simple. It's Bob Gainey's man. That's when the real Bob Gainey's system kicks in and a successful one at that.
Gainey likes Julien and the Habs out did BG's expectations this year with that man behind the bench, you can't change coaches every year because you lose out.

It makes sense if the Leafs fire Quinn because they lose in the playoffs because he has been there for a lot of years and has had an opportunity to win and hasn't. Then Fergie Jr. will bring in his own man...Joel Quenville.

You have to give a coach a longer opportunity, Julien hasn't had his yet. If anything I could see Jarvis coming up and being an Assistant Julien.

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Gainey likes Julien and the Habs out did BG's expectations this year with that man behind the bench, you can't change coaches every year because you lose out.

It makes sense if the Leafs fire Quinn because they lose in the playoffs because he has been there for a lot of years and has had an opportunity to win and hasn't. Then Fergie Jr. will bring in his own man...Joel Quenville.

You have to give a coach a longer opportunity, Julien hasn't had his yet. If anything I could see Jarvis coming up and being an Assistant Julien.

Ok, then is it safe to say that Jarvis will be the coach of the Habs in the future?

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Ok, then is it safe to say that Jarvis will be the coach of the Habs in the future?
Are you a Leaf fan???

And no that isn't a safe assumption on your part. Lets say in the future they do fire Julien (lets face it coaches are hired to be fired) and a better coach like Quenville or Robinson is available they would be choosen over Jarvis who has only head coaching experience in the Minors this year and numerous years of assistant coaching in the NHL.

But Robinson is a winner, Joel Q is a coach who has rebuilt a team in St.Louis. Jarvis isn't head coach material in my mind, he is a defensive stratagist and would be a great assistant.

If anything the nbext coach of the Habs is Larry Robinson, another Gainey buddy with Jarvis coming in to aid him along with an offesive minded assistant coach.

I think Julien would be better off if Ganiey gets rid of Green and Charron so Julien can bring in his own assistants. That is a problem too, they have fired the past head coach but kept the same assistants, let Julien bring in his men to teach his system. If it doesn't work, hten you look elsewhere...your speculating waaaaayyyyy too early.

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Are you a Leaf fan???

And no that isn't a safe assumption on your part. Lets say in the future they do fire Julien (lets face it coaches are hired to be fired) and a better coach like Quenville or Robinson is available they would be choosen over Jarvis who has only head coaching experience in the Minors this year and numerous years of assistant coaching in the NHL.

But Robinson is a winner, Joel Q is a coach who has rebuilt a team in St.Louis. Jarvis isn't head coach material in my mind, he is a defensive stratagist and would be a great assistant.

If anything the nbext coach of the Habs is Larry Robinson, another Gainey buddy with Jarvis coming in to aid him along with an offesive minded assistant coach.

I think Julien would be better off if Ganiey gets rid of Green and Charron so Julien can bring in his own assistants. That is a problem too, they have fired the past head coach but kept the same assistants, let Julien bring in his men to teach his system. If it doesn't work, hten you look elsewhere...your speculating waaaaayyyyy too early.

Yes I'm a Leafs fan. But my good friends and lots of family are Habs fans. I also live in Hamilton and watch a lot of Bulldogs games. I saw Ryder live alot last year and he is awesome and will be for a long time. No one works harder than this guy.

I don't know how much you follow the Habs prospects but man do they ever look good!!!

Trust me, Gainey will just not hire just anybody to coach the Habs. With Gainey it's all about his system. Jarvis is the next up and coming coach in the NHL. There are great coaches and excellent coaches. He is an excellent coach.

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I don't know how much you follow the Habs prospects but man do they ever look good!!!

Trust me, Gainey will just not hire just anybody to coach the Habs. With Gainey it's all about his system. Jarvis is the next up and coming coach in the NHL. There are great coaches and excellent coaches. He is an excellent coach.
I follow the Habs like a Religion from the bottom up and I know that we have some great kids coming up, I have had the patience and faith to wait for them unlike some of my faithful posters here.

Jarvis may be a good up and coming coach, but Gainey has over looked him in the past by getting Hitchcock, if Robinson is available and willing to come to the habs later on in the future I'm sure that is his first choice.

CJ is the man and will be next year too.

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Bob Gainey For Coach And Gm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps: Bob Gainey For President!

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I follow the Habs like a Religion from the bottom up and I know that we have some great kids coming up, I have had the patience and faith to wait for them unlike some of my faithful posters here.

Jarvis may be a good up and coming coach, but Gainey has over looked him in the past by getting Hitchcock, if Robinson is available and willing to come to the habs later on in the future I'm sure that is his first choice.

CJ is the man and will be next year too.

Have you seen Yann Danis play? This guy is the real deal. You guys will love him. All this talent below the Habs should really light a fire under them. I'm sure it did this season with guys like Ryder and Ribiero having great seasons.

When the Leafs exit in the playoffs, my attention turns to the Bulldogs.

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Julien won't go no matter the outcome, and rightly so. You need stability to build a strong team. The only one I wouldn't mind going is Guy Charon, "special" unit coach, in favor of Guy Carbonneau, who should never have left in the 1st place. And if he doesn't want to come, trade for Morrow, married to his daughter. That'll make him move. Or just plain kidnap here and save a step.

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Julien won't go no matter the outcome, and rightly so. You need stability to build a strong team. The only one I wouldn't mind going is Guy Charon, "special" unit coach, in favor of Guy Carbonneau, who should never have left in the 1st place. And if he doesn't want to come, trade for Morrow, married to his daughter. That'll make him move. Or just plain kidnap here and save a step.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Guy Carbonneau in the organization soon. I really had wished Dryden could have convinced Gainey to come to T.O. but it seems that Gainey was intent on the Habs no matter how hard Dryden tried...and he did try hard.

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The PK has been terrible since Carbonneau left...if we can get him back..we can move up a few spots in the standings and can actually be battling for 4th(home ice advantage) next year since Special Teams win you a lot of games.

Guy Charron is really getting me mad..the PK is terrible all year..PP is good but now it's really starting to die..

Claude Julien
Guy Carbonneau

What i'm wondering is when Julien was named coach...a couple of days before..Carbonneau said I would love to coach the habs..I dunno if there is some hatred between the two and maybe Guy not doing his job properly will cost Julien's job so then Guy can take over...

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Julien is a good coach, he's perfectly bilingual and he knows most of the young Habs players and most of their prospects better than anyone else. I'm positive he'll be back next year. His mandate was to make the playoffs, not to win the Stanley Cup.

On the other hand Bob Gainey didn't bring his good friend Doug Jarvis to rot in the AHL for several years. I wouldn't be surprised if Jarvis was asked to replace either André Savard or Pierre Gauthier on the administrative side of things.

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Jarvis replacing Savard or Gauthier???

Are you mad?

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Doug Jarvis is a respected hockeyman who has done a very good job as a player, as an assistan coach in the NHL and as a head coach in the minors.

I'm sure he's a well organized person and knows how to evaluate hockey talent as well as anybody else. If André Boudrias and Carol Vadnais could fill those jobs in Serge Savard's days, I bet Doug Jarvis wouldn't do worse than they did.

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Ok I don't argue the fact that Jarvis can judge talent but I doubt he can judge talent as well as Pierre Gauthier and Andre Savard..

if it's not broken..don't fix it.

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Ok I don't argue the fact that Jarvis can judge talent but I doubt he can judge talent as well as Pierre Gauthier and Andre Savard..

if it's not broken..don't fix it.
I don't think we can keep those 2 excellent hockey specialist on our team for a very long time.....

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On the other hand Bob Gainey didn't bring his good friend Doug Jarvis to rot in the AHL for several years. I wouldn't be surprised if Jarvis was asked to replace either André Savard or Pierre Gauthier on the administrative side of things.
Jarvis said in an interview a while ago this Hamilton assignment was the perfect job for him since it was so close to home. That way he can find time for his family as well. I don't think Jarvis' going anywhere any time soon. I would be shocked to see him leave Hamilton in the next couple of years. It's good to have stability with the big club, but it's also good to have some with the farm team, where the coach can learn to know each player's strenghts and weaknesses to help him develop. It also gives him the chance to see if there's an actual progression for the players that remain there more than a year.

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Folks, if the habs do not advance to the next round, expect Doug Jarvis as the coach of the Habs next season.
Hopefully they do advance.
I would agree with you if losing in the first round of the playoff meant our team underachieved, but I believe our team just making it to the playoff is them OVERachieving and most of the credit goes to Julien for that. That's why he won't be fired

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