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Michael Nylander Assigned to Grand Rapids for a Conditioning Stint

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10-21-2009, 02:05 PM
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Michael Nylander Assigned to Grand Rapids for a Conditioning Stint

Per the Washington Capitals' website.

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Not even to the AHL team?!

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Why GR instead of Hershey Bears?

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Not even to the AHL team?!
Grand Rapids are an AHL-team. Nylander gets to play with Red Wings-prospects

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Why GR instead of Hershey Bears?
Traded to the Red Wings?

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Grand Rapids are an AHL-team. Nylander gets to play with Red Wings-prospects
The Caps AHL team, obviously.

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Why GR instead of Hershey Bears?
Probably because the Caps don't want him taking playing time away from their prospects? There may be something schedule related that makes the Griffins a particularly desirable destination for the stint, but I'm not sure exactly what that would be at the moment.

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Probably because the Caps don't want him taking playing time away from their prospects? There may be something schedule related that makes the Griffins a particularly desirable destination for the stint, but I'm not sure exactly what that would be at the moment.
Marlies vs. Grand Rapids this Saturday

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Per Dmitri Chesnokov of Sovetsky Sport last night, Dynamo Moscow of the KHL allegedly passed on Nylander, citing the fact that the Caps won't play him and he is benched all the time. Perhaps this is an overture to give KHL scouts some game viewings. Shrug.

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Now they won't even let him play for their own AHL affiliate? Who's daughter did he knock up?

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Apparently he is still on the 23-man roster, and his salary still counts against Washington's cap during this stint.

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Really a shame what the Capitals are doing to Nylander. Not that he's totally absolved for his poor play, but it's no way to treat a free agent signing. It usually takes 16 months to recover from an operation like he had on his rotator cuff and he still managed 33 points in 72 games less than a year after his operation.

He could probably contribute to Washington once he got his skating legs back and I wouldn't be totally sure that isn't what this is about. He's way better than the AHL and perhaps the Capitals are trying to strong arm him into defection.

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Apparently he is still on the 23-man roster, and his salary still counts against Washington's cap during this stint.
Correct. This is purely an attempt to showcase Nylander, not a means to bury him or to reap any cap savings whatsoever.

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Things are on the move finally. Take him KHL, take him.

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Really a shame what the Capitals are doing to Nylander. Not that he's totally absolved for his poor play, but it's no way to treat a free agent signing. It usually takes 16 months to recover from an operation like he had on his rotator cuff and he still managed 33 points in 72 games less than a year after his operation.

He could probably contribute to Washington once he got his skating legs back and I wouldn't be totally sure that isn't what this is about. He's way better than the AHL and perhaps the Capitals are trying to strong arm him into defection.
Perhaps?

Dude...this is straight up gansta trench warfare between the Caps and Nylander. Appears Nylander is finally standing down a bit to allow this loan...but I doubt it's more than 2 games this weekend just to give some scouts/gm's a look.

He looked good in preseason scrimmages...just hasn't gotten into game action with this standoff going on.

And I agree....I think the Caps have handled it rather poorly, but so for it's not effecting the existing roster/team.

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I don't see why they don't just play him. Does BB really hate him that much?

I get that he's on an awful contract, but is he really worse than Quintin Laing? He could still be an okay player for them, but it seems like it's not even a consideration to insert him into the lineup.

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I don't see why they don't just play him. Does BB really hate him that much?

I get that he's on an awful contract, but is he really worse than Quintin Laing? He could still be an okay player for them, but it seems like it's not even a consideration to insert him into the lineup.
It's simple really. Our organization is full of hubrus and classlessness. Look at the way they dealt with Bondra, Kolzig, Bourque, Nylander when he was negotiating with Edmonton, and now this. Boudreau's got this notion that he can win the Stanley Cup the same way he won the Calder Cup, with a roster exactly tailor made to fit his rush rush rush game. Even though Laing and players like that add nothing to it. Nevermind that you can find a dozen Fleischmann's on any AHL team. That's why we have scrubs like Laing and Kane getting time over him, even though he can still be pretty useful and has undisputed offensive upside. By not playing Nylander Boudreau and McPhee can pretend that he doesn't exist and not stare truth in the face. Something they've perfected doing with our defense over the years.

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at the end of the day we can all agree....Boudreau likes cheeseburgers.

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Nylander is a hole in the ice in that system. Sure, he was getting points, but any center would get points on the Caps. He would often have two wingers streaking down the boards and instead of passing to one of them, would turn back into his own zone and regroup. He was just too slow to keep up.

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Here's a great explanation of the whole situation: http://www.dccheapseats.com/?p=2820

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It's simple really. Our organization is full of hubrus and classlessness. Look at the way they dealt with Bondra, Kolzig, Bourque, Nylander when he was negotiating with Edmonton, and now this. Boudreau's got this notion that he can win the Stanley Cup the same way he won the Calder Cup, with a roster exactly tailor made to fit his rush rush rush game. Even though Laing and players like that add nothing to it. Nevermind that you can find a dozen Fleischmann's on any AHL team. That's why we have scrubs like Laing and Kane getting time over him, even though he can still be pretty useful and has undisputed offensive upside. By not playing Nylander Boudreau and McPhee can pretend that he doesn't exist and not stare truth in the face. Something they've perfected doing with our defense over the years.

On the contrary, GMGM is doing exactly what you would have him do -- fix his mistake. And he is doing so by attempting to create the necessary cap room to facilitate the acquisition of the desired reinforcements.

The tactic may be unpleasant, but the strategy is sound. Considering the contractual handcuffs he put himself in, by not playing Nylander, GMGM is deploying the largest "lever" available to him, to eventually dislodge a seemingly "immovable" object.

The conditioning stint is a hint that the plan is moving into phase II. That's good news.

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I don't see why they don't just play him. Does BB really hate him that much?

I get that he's on an awful contract, but is he really worse than Quintin Laing? He could still be an okay player for them, but it seems like it's not even a consideration to insert him into the lineup.
Probably because playing him would weaken their position and lessen the chances of getting rid of him this season; if he gets any playing time, if he knows he really has an option here, is he going to consent to a loan?

If you assume that getting rid of him is the primary objective (and given the lengths they've gone to to avoid playing him it would seem that ship has long since sailed, for whatever reason) then there's likely no way they can budge and just play him. Whether it's the right call or not.

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Things are on the move finally. Take him KHL, take him.
How can I don't agree with you?

Seriously it really looks like nobody wants him in this league, let him play again with Jagr it will be better for him.

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